They really hate this guy and will go so far as to make a story out of nothing to try and make him look bad.
Maybe if there was any real "talent" (and I use that word loosely) in the media they could find these news stories. They are such untrained hacks that they need to attend press conferences to have their work/stories handed to them.
It is no big deal that the VP shot somebody while hunting. Nobody really even needs to know about it. There are many news stories about all the great things that are happening in Iraq that are on the back page of any newspaper in the USA. Hell even the bad stuff that is happening isn't on the media radar right now because the life and death story of a hunting accident has been dropped into their laps.
The media in this country are a bunch of low rent cockroaches that need to be fired.
I love how CNN has distorted this story into a major news story. The anchors sound mentally retarded about the subject of guns. They are so uninformed about the subject they cannot possibly be objective about it. While hunting quail you use 6-8 shot, the dumb ass reporter on CNN is using buck shot as a prop and telling people that this is what is lodged in the guys dome. Shock effect nothing else, and it it done to try and harm a decent guy. Now they are questioning his hunting license. CNN can go FO.
But its news, in fact, its kind of big/interesting news. Nothing that shapes world opinion, but its definatley something a lot of people would be talking about.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
The media is out to get Dick Cheney yet again.
They really hate this guy and will go so far as to make a story out of nothing to try and make him look bad.
Maybe if there was any real "talent" (and I use that word loosely) in the media they could find these news stories. They are such untrained hacks that they need to attend press conferences to have their work/stories handed to them.
It is no big deal that the VP shot somebody while hunting. Nobody really even needs to know about it. There are many news stories about all the great things that are happening in Iraq that are on the back page of any newspaper in the USA. Hell even the bad stuff that is happening isn't on the media radar right now because the life and death story of a hunting accident has been dropped into their laps.
The media in this country are a bunch of low rent cockroaches that need to be fired.
I love how CNN has distorted this story into a major news story. The anchors sound mentally retarded about the subject of guns. They are so uninformed about the subject they cannot possibly be objective about it. While hunting quail you use 6-8 shot, the dumb ass reporter on CNN is using buck shot as a prop and telling people that this is what is lodged in the guys dome. Shock effect nothing else, and it it done to try and harm a decent guy. Now they are questioning his hunting license. CNN can go FO.
It can't be said enough. The VP of the United States shot a guy in the face.
Were it not for polarized political views, you would see that it is definitely something that gets attention on a national level.
Think of all of the celebrity news that makes the headlines ... all liberal media plots to bring down Hollywood or singers, or do you suppose that news about celebrities just gathers a little attention? And as one of the most powerful men in the world, Cheney definitely qualifies as a celebrity.
The difference is, when a Hollywood type makes the news for something stupid they did, they don't have a flock of apologists trying to cry conspiracy and defending their "team." Well, except the Scientologists with Tom Cruise, but they don't seem quite as paranoid and brainwashed as the political cult members.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 eGriz Lifer
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Bay Area Cat wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
The media is out to get Dick Cheney yet again.
They really hate this guy and will go so far as to make a story out of nothing to try and make him look bad.
Maybe if there was any real "talent" (and I use that word loosely) in the media they could find these news stories. They are such untrained hacks that they need to attend press conferences to have their work/stories handed to them.
It is no big deal that the VP shot somebody while hunting. Nobody really even needs to know about it. There are many news stories about all the great things that are happening in Iraq that are on the back page of any newspaper in the USA. Hell even the bad stuff that is happening isn't on the media radar right now because the life and death story of a hunting accident has been dropped into their laps.
The media in this country are a bunch of low rent cockroaches that need to be fired.
I love how CNN has distorted this story into a major news story. The anchors sound mentally retarded about the subject of guns. They are so uninformed about the subject they cannot possibly be objective about it. While hunting quail you use 6-8 shot, the dumb ass reporter on CNN is using buck shot as a prop and telling people that this is what is lodged in the guys dome. Shock effect nothing else, and it it done to try and harm a decent guy. Now they are questioning his hunting license. CNN can go FO.
It can't be said enough. The VP of the United States shot a guy in the face.
Were it not for polarized political views, you would see that it is definitely something that gets attention on a national level.
Think of all of the celebrity news that makes the headlines ... all liberal media plots to bring down Hollywood or singers, or do you suppose that news about celebrities just gathers a little attention? And as one of the most powerful men in the world, Cheney definitely qualifies as a celebrity.
The difference is, when a Hollywood type makes the news for something stupid they did, they don't have a flock of apologists trying to cry conspiracy and defending their "team." Well, except the Scientologists with Tom Cruise, but they don't seem quite as paranoid and brainwashed as the political cult members.
I am not making excuses for DC. Just how the story is being handled, not to mention the ammunition the anti gun crowd gets from this story. I am a gun guy first and foremost of any political issue, and I do get a little pissed when the media that doesn't know a damn thing about guns, reports their usual rhetoric about how bad they are.
Like this morning when the chickette on CNN said DC shot the guy with a 28 gauge. That is news to me. 4-10-16-20-410 are the only gauge shotguns I know of.
So as long as the press accurately reports the gun-specific details, you're fine with it?
It sounds like it boils down to being upset with DC for reminding us how easily you can hurt other people with guns. I'm sure the NRA in general isn't too thrilled that he used his high-profile status to prove that guns can be dangerous in the hands of irresponsible hunters (and anytime you shoot another person in your party who is wearing hunter's orange, there is an overwhelming high chance that you were acting irresponsibly).
So direct your anger where it belongs -- right a DC. The press is just reporting the story, and most people really don't care if they mess up on the minute details in terms of the specific type of shotgun he was using. It doesn't change the underlying theme or thrust of the story.
Wrong. The media is out to get DC and make him look bad. If I shot a guy in the face while hunting it would make the news about the way it should. If you made a list of 200 reasons why this story is getting the attention it is. The news aspect of it would be 205, it's all political.
Wrong. The media is out to get DC and make him look bad. If I shot a guy in the face while hunting it would make the news about the way it should. If you made a list of 200 reasons why this story is getting the attention it is. The news aspect of it would be 205, it's all political.
If you shot a guy, nobody would care. This is true. Because nobody knows who you are.
This is a matter of celebrity -- not partisan politics.
But this is a story that almost writes punchlines for itself, so the comedians will have a field day with this one.
Wrong. The media is out to get DC and make him look bad. If I shot a guy in the face while hunting it would make the news about the way it should. If you made a list of 200 reasons why this story is getting the attention it is. The news aspect of it would be 205, it's all political.
If you shot a guy, nobody would care. This is true. Because nobody knows who you are.
This is a matter of celebrity -- not partisan politics.
But this is a story that almost writes punchlines for itself, so the comedians will have a field day with this one.
well lets use some common sence here
1) if DC was concerned that this would hit the press *i am sure they knew it would hit the press* they would not let this guys lawyer break this news to the press before the white house
2) why did the guy walk out in the path of shooters without alerting them beforehand
3) why did DC shoot?
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Its funny 2nite while I was working out at the Y, Foxnews was on, a station I do not watch. I was running on a low-impact machine and was a few minutes in before I looked to the TV, I kind of cringed to see coming off of commercial break, Bill O'Rielly.
So for the next 30 minutes I half watched the end of Bill's show and the start of Hannity and Colmes. Funny thing, both Bill and Alan & Sean were talking about Cheney.
2 of America's leading voice in conservative political thought talking about Cheney's hunting accident. (Which I believe was basically that it's much ado about nothing). Now where's the liberal media in that?
the cheney story is not much ado about nothing. it is much ado about incompetence.
accidents happen. they happen to me, they happen to you, they happen to corporations. when a southwest plane slides off a runway and kills a youngster, or an exxon tanker is involved in an oil spill, or the vice-president shoots a man, that is the stuff of a public relations disaster. experts agree there are ways to deal with these accidents to minimize the damage--by responding immediately, showing you care, fessing up if you made mistakes, "getting in front of the story."
exhibit "a" is the way southwest airlines reacted when their plane slid off the runway. their president was there within an hour, available, communicating, expressing sorrow.
exhibit "z" is the way cheney responded--late, aloof, secretive--essentially creating all the speculation now rife in the press...he was much closer than 30 yards, had been drinking, kept the local authorities away, had something to hide, inflicted wounds much more serious than we were told, didn't tell the president.
not only that, he still doesn't think he did anything wrong.
cheney was involved in an accident.
he created a public relations nightmare.
whether you're left or right, for the war or against, the incompetence of this administration is jaw-dropping, on issues from fema to war planning to social security reform to wiretapping to the "k" street scandals to quail-gate.
I think he handled the situation damn well. He is right to be skeptical of today's media and the way they would have spun this story.
The media is pissed off that they were not handed a story to report and I am glad he did it this way. They don't deserve anything until after the fact. Within 48 hours is just fine in a case like this.
the cheney story is not much ado about nothing. it is much ado about incompetence.
accidents happen. they happen to me, they happen to you, they happen to corporations. when a southwest plane slides off a runway and kills a youngster, or an exxon tanker is involved in an oil spill, or the vice-president shoots a man, that is the stuff of a public relations disaster. experts agree there are ways to deal with these accidents to minimize the damage--by responding immediately, showing you care, fessing up if you made mistakes, "getting in front of the story."
exhibit "a" is the way southwest airlines reacted when their plane slid off the runway. their president was there within an hour, available, communicating, expressing sorrow.
exhibit "z" is the way cheney responded--late, aloof, secretive--essentially creating all the speculation now rife in the press...he was much closer than 30 yards, had been drinking, kept the local authorities away, had something to hide, inflicted wounds much more serious than we were told, didn't tell the president.
not only that, he still doesn't think he did anything wrong.
cheney was involved in an accident.
he created a public relations nightmare.
whether you're left or right, for the war or against, the incompetence of this administration is jaw-dropping, on issues from fema to war planning to social security reform to wiretapping to the "k" street scandals to quail-gate.
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