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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:37 pm

Every 2 minute commercial break on TV (cable or off air) would have 30 seconds of pictures or video of the WTC on 9-11. On radio there would be 30 second spots of actual audio or radio broadcasts.

I would say we can stop showing this in the year 2140.
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Re: If it were up to me.....

Postby Bay Area Cat on Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:53 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Every 2 minute commercial break on TV (cable or off air) would have 30 seconds of pictures or video of the WTC on 9-11. On radio there would be 30 second spots of actual audio or radio broadcasts.

I would say we can stop showing this in the year 2140.


Yes, let's use the government pulpit to rile people up and make them angry so they support our own bloodlust. Perhaps people would take to the streets and riot and kill anybody who looked Arab out of sheer anger and hate.

Or, you could just move to Iran or many other whacked out Muslim countries where they actually do operate like that.

Nobody has forgotten 911. It's just that most people have gotten past the angry and irrational stage and have incorporated that experience into their very rational opinions of how we can best avoid that happening anywhere again.
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Re: If it were up to me.....

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:00 pm

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Every 2 minute commercial break on TV (cable or off air) would have 30 seconds of pictures or video of the WTC on 9-11. On radio there would be 30 second spots of actual audio or radio broadcasts.

I would say we can stop showing this in the year 2140.



Nobody has forgotten 911. It's just that most people have gotten past the angry and irrational stage and have incorporated that experience into their very rational opinions of how we can best avoid that happening anywhere again.


That's funny.
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Re: If it were up to me.....

Postby GeorgeAllen on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:00 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Every 2 minute commercial break on TV (cable or off air) would have 30 seconds of pictures or video of the WTC on 9-11. On radio there would be 30 second spots of actual audio or radio broadcasts.

I would say we can stop showing this in the year 2140.


Geez, Alphagriz, and you're the one who keeps telling me to stop living in the past when I point out Bush's mistake for not going after Bin Laden instead of Saddham Hussein. Do you now agree we should going after Bin Laden instead of Hussein? Bin Laden, you know, is the thug who organized the 9-11 attack. Why is our military in Iraq instead of combing the hills of Afghanistan looking for the murderous mastermind behind the 9-11 attack?
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Re: If it were up to me.....

Postby Bay Area Cat on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:07 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Every 2 minute commercial break on TV (cable or off air) would have 30 seconds of pictures or video of the WTC on 9-11. On radio there would be 30 second spots of actual audio or radio broadcasts.

I would say we can stop showing this in the year 2140.



Nobody has forgotten 911. It's just that most people have gotten past the angry and irrational stage and have incorporated that experience into their very rational opinions of how we can best avoid that happening anywhere again.


That's funny.


It may be funny, but it's true. We're all still angry, but that doesn't mean we have to act out of anger. We're better than that as a country. We leave that sort of mob mentality to the countries we look down upon (seen any good Mohammed cartoons lately?).

And yes, I have heard the radio talk show hosts make the exact same point you made in your opening post, and their point is to suggest that the "evil liberals" have forgotten about 911, unlike the noble conservatives. Rest assured, I know a lot of liberals, and none of them have forgotten about it, and I'm quite sure very few Americans have.
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:20 pm

I disagree, too many Americans have forgot about the whole 9-11 thing. they are back to the same old routine "what's in it for me".

Speaking for me, it doesn't matter one bit if we ever get OBL. He isn't even in the top 10 of the guys I would like to see caught.
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Postby GeorgeAllen on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:22 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Speaking for me, it doesn't matter one bit if we ever get OBL. He isn't even in the top 10 of the guys I would like to see caught.


Fascinating, Alphagriz. If Osama Bin Laden is not even in your top 10 list, who does your top 10 list consist of?
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:25 pm

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Speaking for me, it doesn't matter one bit if we ever get OBL. He isn't even in the top 10 of the guys I would like to see caught.


Fascinating, Alphagriz. If Osama Bin Laden is not even in your top 10 list, who does your top 10 list consist of?


Here are more than 10 guys to start with:


Ayman Al-Zawahiri

Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser

Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah

Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah

Ali Atwa


Anas Al-Liby

Fazul Abdullah Mohammed

Hasan Izz-Al-Din

Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali

Imad Fayez Mugniyah

Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan

Abdul Rahman Yasin

Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam

Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil

Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie

Saif Al-Adel

Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:26 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I disagree, too many Americans have forgot about the whole 9-11 thing. they are back to the same old routine "what's in it for me".


Oh, you must be talking about profiteers in Iraq ... good point. Forgot about them. Yeah, they are more interested in themselves than the good of the country.
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:29 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Speaking for me, it doesn't matter one bit if we ever get OBL. He isn't even in the top 10 of the guys I would like to see caught.


Fascinating, Alphagriz. If Osama Bin Laden is not even in your top 10 list, who does your top 10 list consist of?


Here are more than 10 guys to start with:


Ayman Al-Zawahiri

Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser

Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah

Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah

Ali Atwa


Anas Al-Liby

Fazul Abdullah Mohammed

Hasan Izz-Al-Din

Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali

Imad Fayez Mugniyah

Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan

Abdul Rahman Yasin

Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam

Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil

Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie

Saif Al-Adel

Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub


Hmmm ... the list you copied this from actually has OBL at the top:

http://www.growley.com/war/terrorists.html
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Re: If it were up to me.....

Postby Re/MaxGriz on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:30 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Every 2 minute commercial break on TV (cable or off air) would have 30 seconds of pictures or video of the WTC on 9-11. On radio there would be 30 second spots of actual audio or radio broadcasts.

I would say we can stop showing this in the year 2140.


Alpha can I add some suggestions?

1. Instead of just having it on TV, lets have a private theater where every American must go to every day and show them pictures of the WTC and the attacks, and then pictures of Saddam and Bin Laden so we can scream and yell at them and make sure we know who our enemy is.

2. To promote national health lets put a TV in every house that broadcasts a mandatory workout program. And it will provide useful government info and the latest on the war with our enemies. We'll call them Telescreens.

3. We will parade the prisioners through town on flatbeds so people can yell at them and throw things at them.

4. Rename America to Oceania.
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:31 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I disagree, too many Americans have forgot about the whole 9-11 thing. they are back to the same old routine "what's in it for me".


Oh, you must be talking about profiteers in Iraq ... good point. Forgot about them. Yeah, they are more interested in themselves than the good of the country.


I am just going to wait for your Halliburton/Bechtel/Raytheon blast, and then I will go from there.

Another question. Since we are a capitalist country, if a person were to notice a niche in the market of war and create a business to fill that void, does that make him a scumbag or just a war monger? Or does it make him smarter than the rest?
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:34 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I disagree, too many Americans have forgot about the whole 9-11 thing. they are back to the same old routine "what's in it for me".


Oh, you must be talking about profiteers in Iraq ... good point. Forgot about them. Yeah, they are more interested in themselves than the good of the country.


I am just going to wait for your Halliburton/Bechtel/Raytheon blast, and then I will go from there.

Another question. Since we are a capitalist country, if a person were to notice a niche in the market of war and create a business to fill that void, does that make him a scumbag or just a war monger? Or does it make him smarter than the rest?


Dude, you're the one who said that it was bad that people were back into the "what's in it for me" routine. And now you're trumpeting the virtues of capitalism? Damn, pick a position and stick with it.

Flip-flop ... Flip-flop ... Flip-flop. :naughty:
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:43 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I disagree, too many Americans have forgot about the whole 9-11 thing. they are back to the same old routine "what's in it for me".


Oh, you must be talking about profiteers in Iraq ... good point. Forgot about them. Yeah, they are more interested in themselves than the good of the country.


I am just going to wait for your Halliburton/Bechtel/Raytheon blast, and then I will go from there.

Another question. Since we are a capitalist country, if a person were to notice a niche in the market of war and create a business to fill that void, does that make him a scumbag or just a war monger? Or does it make him smarter than the rest?


Dude, you're the one who said that it was bad that people were back into the "what's in it for me" routine. And now you're trumpeting the virtues of capitalism? Damn, pick a position and stick with it.

Flip-flop ... Flip-flop ... Flip-flop. :naughty:


I get what your saying but you missed my intent. Lets see if this may explain it better.

My comment on the "what's in it for me" mindset was more along the lines of, I can't believe that I have to wait in a line at the airport or Why do I get a body cavity search going into the Superbowl. They are not concerned enough about another attack anymore. They just want the old way of life back. It wasn't said with a monetary connotation.

As far as the businesses I mentioned above, GOOD FOR THEM if they are making a ton of money. That is what business is all about.
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