Could Bush supporters PLEASE explain to me why I find my self (a right wing conservative) on the side of Hillery and Schumer? How can you support giving are ports and there security to Arab nations??? HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You really want a ARAB nation in charge of our ports? This is really getting crazy. Let the Saudies cross the Mexican border uncheked and sell our ports to the Arabs.
I look forward to reading the respones justifying how it is in our countrys intrest to turn our ports over top the Arabs.
Blaster
"The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on."
- Joseph Heller-
Could Bush supporters PLEASE explain to me why I find my self (a right wing conservative) on the side of Hillery and Schumer? How can you support giving are ports and there security to Arab nations??? HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You really want a ARAB nation in charge of our ports? This is really getting crazy. Let the Saudies cross the Mexican border uncheked and sell our ports to the Arabs.
I look forward to reading the respones justifying how it is in our countrys intrest to turn our ports over top the Arabs.
Blaster
"The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on."
- Joseph Heller-
Wheres a link to this info
If its true Pez Bush is a dope!!!
I've been to all 57 States!!!!
I'm not a racist but everyone else is!!!!
My wife loves America!!!!
Really, I was born in America!!!!
My Pastors are just mis quoted!!!
Vote for me and watch for change!!! As in change my opinion everyday.
Opined the Washington Times today:
"Do we really want our major ports in the hands of an Arab country where al-Qaida recruits, travels and wires money?
"We should be improving port security in an age of terrorism, not outsourcing decisions to the highest bidder. The ports are thought to be the country's weakest homeland-security link, with good reason. Only a fraction of the nation's maritime cargoes are inspected. …
"President Bush should overrule the committee to reject this deal. If that doesn't happen, Congress should take action. The country's ports should not be owned by foreign governments; much less governments whose territories are favored by al-Qaida."
Did you notice this part "There are several 9-11 connections to the United Arab Emirates. Many of the hijackers entered the U.S. via UAE, much of the attack's planning was done there, and the FBI says money for the operation was transferred to the hijackers primarily through the UAE's banking system."
Now, how about you guys who say we sholud be giving Bush unlimited powers? Maybe we can agree as Americans to put politics aside and look at the issues not as democrat or republican, but what's good for Americans. Puting our ports under control of ANY other country is just flat out insanity. I can not believe I am on the same side of Hillery and Schumer. On this one they are on Americas side and Bush is putting us in GRAVE danger.
Blaster
"The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on."
- Joseph Heller-
Well, let's see now, we've got yet another group of individuals hell-bent on destroying us and our way of life, in charge of 8 of our ports,(two were not listed that are MILITARY PORTS! one in Corpus Christi, TX) and the Red Chinese in charge of both ends of the Panama Canal. (The Red Army on one end, and a Chinese "Company" on the other.)
Dang, it's hard to watch our country being sold out in slow motion.
This was approved by a "secret" commision of the Bush administration that says they don't need to consult congress before selling our ports to a country with a history of supporting terror. Maybe this is Bush making a payoff to Saudi Arabia.
Imagine Two Military Ports being put under contol of the very people we claim to be fighting. Bush just lost much credibility on this one.
This is one conservitive that won't follow blind conservitism. All of the Secret stuff Bush is doing on his own is starting to make me nervous. Congress is there for a reason. He is not King George.
Maybe UAE would like to import some of the Nuke material into the U.S. along with some Talaban sleeper cells. Check this out.
February 16, 2006 10:00 p.m. EST
Andrea Moore - All Headline News Staff Reporter
Washington, D.C. (AHN) - U.S. lawmakers have formally asked the Bush administration to reconsider its approval of a sale giving a company in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) control over significant operations at six major American ports.
The lawmakers, made up of both Republicans and Democrats and include four senators and three House members, say the UAE is inconsistent in its support of U.S. anti-terrorism efforts.
They also say the country was a key transfer point for shipments of nuclear components sent to Iran, North Korea, and Libya and was one of only three nations that had recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government.
However, the Bush administration defends its approval of the sale. A spokesman for the White House National Security Council, Frederick Jones, says security implications of the deal were "rigorously reviewed."
Other critics of the deal complain that control over port operations will endanger U.S. security.
maybe we need to Be investigating what else has been being done in secret by those who are supposed to be protecting us I want the names of people who "rigorously reviewed" this.
anyone in favor of this deal besids Bush?? This borders on treason to me, Bush should not be allowed to stay in office if he makes this deal happen, and saying he has the power to bypass congress because we are at war, is B.S. on somthing like this. Congress better step up to the plate and take charge on this one, before it's to late.
WAIT... what's this I smell.... why it smells like a little discrimination coming from some of our liberal friends....so much for tolerance.
What do you mean? (serious question...I'm not sure what you are driving at).
I would guess he is hinting at the fact that you are pigeon holeing all arabs as bad people, and we thought you were better than that.
If the poster he is referring to is Badnewsbear-he says he is a conservative. Also, I'm not sure he is stating all Arabs are bad. I'd like to hear from Grizbacker on this. I think everybody on this board may finally agree on something and that is selling these ports to the UAE is nuts!
WAIT... what's this I smell.... why it smells like a little discrimination coming from some of our liberal friends....so much for tolerance.
I will guess that this is in reference to me. This type of intellectual laziness is why I have not posted on here before. What’s your definition of liberal Ponezone? What did I say that would be considered liberal thinking? I Posted an article off World Net Daily a very conservative site. Michael Savage said basically what I said. I think he is one of the most conservative people on the radio. Or are you saying I am a lib because I don't march step by step with Bush? I don't consider Bush 1 or 2 conservative. They are moderate, big government, big spending republicans. Most republicans I know admit that. I am not happy with Bush becuse he is the liberal one, not me.
In what way am I discriminating? Because I do not want Arab people in control of United States ports? Lets look at that. Here is how my dictionary defines Arab:
·ab [árrəb]
n (plural Ar·abs)
member of Semitic people: a member of a Semitic Arabic-speaking people who live throughout North Africa and the Middle East
If me not want wanting people from North Africa or the Middle East in control of our ports makes me a racist well I guess I am.
WAIT... what's this I smell.... why it smells like a little discrimination coming from some of our liberal friends....so much for tolerance.
I will guess that this is in reference to me. This type of intellectual laziness is why I have not posted on here before. What’s your definition of liberal Ponezone? What did I say that would be considered liberal thinking? I Posted an article off World Net Daily a very conservative site. Michael Savage said basically what I said. I think he is one of the most conservative people on the radio. Or are you saying I am a lib because I don't march step by step with Bush? I don't consider Bush 1 or 2 conservative. They are moderate, big government, big spending republicans. Most republicans I know admit that. I am not happy with Bush becuse he is the liberal one, not me.
In what way am I discriminating? Because I do not want Arab people in control of United States ports? Lets look at that. Here is how my dictionary defines Arab:
·ab [árrəb]
n (plural Ar·abs)
member of Semitic people: a member of a Semitic Arabic-speaking people who live throughout North Africa and the Middle East
If me not want wanting people from North Africa or the Middle East in control of our ports makes me a racist well I guess I am.
Usually, the definition of liberal (as stated by so-called conservatives) that exists on this board is primarily: not agreeing with Bush. You are right, Bush is no true conservative. He has helped morph the Republican Party into a big brother/big government/big spending/big deficits/big business/fundamentalist Christian organization.
alright... alright... here's a dirty little secret. But don't tell anybody:
Truth is... probably most conservatives... and that's true conservatives... aren't huge fans of Bush. But what's really funny is... they sure like Bush better than anybody the dems have been putting forth of late (i.e. Gore or Kerry... and probably Hillary too). Gosh... if you dem's just put up a reasonable candidate who even was close to moderate in their opinion, you'd probably finally win the White House and maybe even more.....
Truth is... just where are the moderate voices in the democratic party?
alright... alright... here's a dirty little secret. But don't tell anybody:
Truth is... probably most conservatives... and that's true conservatives... aren't huge fans of Bush. But what's really funny is... they sure like Bush better than anybody the dems have been putting forth of late (i.e. Gore or Kerry... and probably Hillary too). Gosh... if you dem's just put up a reasonable candidate who even was close to moderate in their opinion, you'd probably finally win the White House and maybe even more.....
Truth is... just where are the moderate voices in the democratic party?
PZ, I know a few conservatives who feel the same way. There's also many moderade Republicans who feel the same. "Bush isn't the best answer, but he's better than the other guy."
The truth is right now there really isn't any "moderate voice" coming from the Democratic party. There's moderate people, and elected Moderate officials, but they don't speak up, and lack the public image that guys like Kennedy and Kerry have.
alright... alright... here's a dirty little secret. But don't tell anybody:
Truth is... probably most conservatives... and that's true conservatives... aren't huge fans of Bush. But what's really funny is... they sure like Bush better than anybody the dems have been putting forth of late (i.e. Gore or Kerry... and probably Hillary too). Gosh... if you dem's just put up a reasonable candidate who even was close to moderate in their opinion, you'd probably finally win the White House and maybe even more.....
Truth is... just where are the moderate voices in the democratic party?
There are many moderate voices in the democratic party. McCain, Hegel, Colin Powell, Lindsey Graham...Oh wait.
I know the far right is in love with this theory, but being too liberal isn't what hurt Kerry and Gore. The far right's view of moderate is skewed, hence the view that Hillary is not a moderate. They might view Bush as a moderate as well which of course would be wrong, but that's another story.
The Republican party is more organized, more cuttthroat, and better at marketing. They're message is easier to package and sell. They're simply more skilled at campaigning. Kudos.
But it wouldn't take much to turn swing voters a little to the left. The last two elections were close.
Right now these ports are ran by a British company if I am not mistaken. So since you lefties are always bitching about how much money we are spending, why not save some here?
Or are you just trying to make this political and profile the all of the muslims/arabs?
Re/Max must be on board since we can take the money we save and waste it on New Orleans.
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