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Postby CerealCityGriz on Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:12 pm

I said if Reginald Denney forgave the dudes that beat him up than we can too. I'm sorry I didn't clarify and seperate the Rodney King comment.
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:40 pm

Yes, the non racist black men of California were the ones that beat Denny's head in with a brick.

Even if he did forgive them, I think he may have some brain damage.
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Postby CatzWillRise on Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:52 pm

I won't dive into this, but blacks can be very racist.

In fact that attitude is exactly what is called a double standard.
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Postby SAVAGE PAW on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:27 pm

Question? Does anyone else think that if Reginald Denny had said he would never forgive those thugs the media and blacks may have labeled him as racist?
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Postby MrTitleist on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:28 pm

Like it should have been 40 posts ago
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Postby ponezone on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:31 pm

grizfaninkalamazoo wrote:I said if Reginald Denney forgave the dudes that beat him up than we can too. I'm sorry I didn't clarify and seperate the Rodney King comment.


... but suppose they beat the "sense" right out of him?
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Postby Re/MaxGriz on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:34 pm

Dissin the Man wrote:I know you would like to believe it is me but unfortunately blacks can't be racists..


I would like to point out the definition of racism

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination


No where does it define which race is or is not racist. I would believe it's all inclusive.
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:36 pm

GrizFan10 wrote:Alpha, as well as several others, your posts are getting out of hand and are quite inappropriate, in my view. In my experience, many people who find it necessary to say they are not prejudiced or racist, or who find it necessary to tell blacks and other minorities what is and isn't racist, are in fact bigoted. Your continued posting of this junk is offending some people, and maybe alot people. I suspect this thread is going to get locked because of this.


So Grizzle, let me get this straight you bring my name up for arguing with Lloyd about the BS he is jacking around on here, but not him?

He is the one slinging the "C" word around and calling everyone involved racists. What is so out of hand about my posts? Is it that I take a stand and won't let this guy walk on me? We all went to school for awhile in GF so it isn't like I am talking to somebody I don't know. If you don't like this stuff don't read it.

Don't call me out and act like I started this, I just wanted in on the conversation since many won't take a stance for fear of being labeled.

DTM is way off on this one.
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:42 pm

Oh and Grizzle, it's nice to have you back telling us what we can and can't post. You go girl.
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Postby Grisly Fan on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:43 pm

"I know you would like to believe it is me but unfortunately blacks can't be racists."

A. You are wrong. Blacks can be as racist as anyone and you are living proof.

B. If your statement were true, why would it be unfortunate? Racism is wrong and so unfortunately blacks can't be wrong in this way(?) Dude you really need to read the crap you write. If you want any credibility (not that it seems possible on this topic) you might actually try to make sense.
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:52 pm

So now your being bigoted towards fools? When will you stop your hate?

And quit HIJACKING this thread. We were having a great race debate until some of you ruined the party. I really think we were making some headway.
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Postby GrizMania on Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:12 pm

Dissin the Man wrote:I know you would like to believe it is me but unfortunately blacks can't be racists.


i'm glad remax put up a definition...

by the way, could you explain the "unfortunately" part. this would suggest that you wish blacks could be racists...

i know you can't mean that. for one it would suggest that blacks cant be racists, and sadly some are.
it would also suggest that it would be fortunate if they were racist.
i really hope that's not what you mean, and that its just some sort of typographical error.
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Postby Harm on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:18 pm

I don't think I've ever heard a more idiotic statement in my life... well ok there was one, this moron wanted to know what the definition of the word "is" happend to be, but that's the only other idiot to be anywhere near your league dissin'...
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Postby HighLineGRIZ on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:22 pm

I think dissin the man is actually a white guy (sorry cracker) trying to make black people look bad. Glad that the black people I know aren't racist like you.
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Postby AllWeatherFan on Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:34 pm

Okay, this is the last thing I'm gonna say on the subject. [Applause.]

Dissin objected to the original post because the author stated that "four black guys" jumped McGillis and beat the crap out of him, or words to that effect. Never mind that the post was completely inaccurate - it had the effect of turning a stupid bar fight into a racial thing.

I don't agree with argh!! that the "four black guys" reference was just an objective way to describe the event and identify the participants. The example he gave of his experience in China was off the mark. The poster wasn't saying something objective and informative, such as, "Those four black guys over there are from Ghana." He was saying, in essence, "Four black thugs beat up a white boy in an unfair fight." He was associating a sinister event with race. Even if his story was true, the race was of the participants, again, was completely irrelevant, unless he was purposely trying to play to people's prejudices.

[Caveat: Just because I disagree with argh!! on this, it doesn't mean he should be kicked off the message board. Sure, he's got a jones for Green26, but the man is funny when he's off his Thorazine. And anybody who calls argh!! an idiot is himself an idiot.]

I also do not think the original poster intended to make a racist post. He thought he was just telling a story. But that's the thing about racism. It is so pervasive that it sneaks right into a conversation at a subconscious level. And the more people jump up and down and say, "Hey, all the black folks I know like me just fine," the more suspect they are.

Now, could Dissin be a little more tactful? Sure. But I think it would be a mistake to write off his message just because of the way it was delivered.

And now, in the words of Ben Folds, I'll go back to my white boy pain.

Like the man said: Out.
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Postby DuCharme on Mon May 01, 2006 3:51 am

HighLineGRIZ wrote:I think dissin the man is actually a white guy (sorry cracker) trying to make black people look bad. Glad that the black people I know aren't racist like you.


I've had that thought too. :hm:
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Postby Harm on Mon May 01, 2006 7:05 am

Allweatherfan wrote:

I don't agree with argh!! that the "four black guys" reference was just an objective way to describe the event and identify the participants.


All, I think it WAS a reference and a reference ONLY. I've done this countless times. Just because they were involved in something stupid doesn't mean he was being negative of the individuals themselves due to their color... I just don't like any part of this kind of crap going on anywhere, it's stupid and for the most part a dead issue in today's society except for those who don't want it to die, dissin'.... Last post on the subject, I'm done with this thread.

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Postby eGriz on Mon May 01, 2006 5:25 pm

I think this subject can be closed. If you still want to talk about it. Open a new thread!
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