I have noticed the increase in activity by moderators and, while I think some threads have been closed a bit too soon, I understand and appreciate the responsibility and judgement required to balance lively discussion with reasonably polite discourse.
I do appreciate the job being done by the moderating crew.
I understand the need to lock or move some threads to smack.
I don't understand, and find myself resenting, the movement of threads to the premium forum from the free areas of the board.
Specifically: "Moved: RALPH of I-AA Waves-"UM's db's "a bunch of moleste"
I can think of no reason - other than coercive attempts to boost subscription rates - for moving a thread to the premium forum from the free forums.
WTF!!!!
You want to lock a thread? Lock it!
You want to move a thread? Move it!
But.........
No thread that begins on a free forum should ever be moved to a premium forum......that's bullshit!
I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves to facts.
..........Mark Twain..........
Joined: 17 Aug 2002 Posts: 2392 Location: Big Sky 1232 eGriz Bucks
The ralph thread wasn't moved to the plus members section. I think it was moved to the moderators forum.
I would guess that was a courtesy to ralph who is, despite some of our opinions highly respected member of the CS community.
I still think of him as a journalist who sometimes covers the Griz and as such should be a legitimate topic of discussion. I've seen threads bashing Rial Cummings or others that weren't locked. The only difference was that Rial and the others didn't come on here and call us a bunch of Koolaid drinkers.
"GD it, PETAns piss me off! We're never gonna have a stupid Eagle or a faggy Bobcat as a mascot!"
I appreciate the explanation.
I still resent the move, and more so now as a result of what appears to be censorship rather than crass commercialization.
Courtesy to Ralph be damned.
Respect is a commodity that, when once earned, should require maintenance. Ralph has made some subtle criticisms of Griz fans that deserve scrutiny. I would think that as a community, eGriz members are more deserving of consideration in the open discussion of topics of interest to us, than censorship based on some altruistic notion of extending a courtesy to a casual participant.
I guess it's for the moderators to decide just who it is they represent......this should be enlightening.
I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves to facts.
..........Mark Twain..........
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I too appreciate the work of the moderators and believe early intervention is generally beneficial. However, it seems that they have been particularly active and have developed a hair trigger.
The last (and perhaps only) time I have implored the moderators to intervene and control rampant, objectionable posts, a simple warning was sufficient to quell such activity.
It's my opinion that over-moderation does more to suck the life out of a public forum than under-moderation, and like government, less is better.
I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves to facts.
..........Mark Twain..........
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I too appreciate the work of the moderators and believe early intervention is generally beneficial. However, it seems that they have been particularly active and have developed a hair trigger.
The last (and perhaps only) time I have implored the moderators to intervene and control rampant, objectionable posts, a simple warning was sufficient to quell such activity.
It's my opinion that over-moderation does more to suck the life out of a public forum than under-moderation, and like government, less is better.
Agreed totally. I do not often agree with your posts, Tailbone, but will fight for your right to make them. This board is succumbing to the do-righter left wing.
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I too appreciate the work of the moderators and believe early intervention is generally beneficial. However, it seems that they have been particularly active and have developed a hair trigger.
The last (and perhaps only) time I have implored the moderators to intervene and control rampant, objectionable posts, a simple warning was sufficient to quell such activity.
It's my opinion that over-moderation does more to suck the life out of a public forum than under-moderation, and like government, less is better.
Agreed totally. I do not often agree with your posts, Tailbone, but will fight for your right to make them. This board is succumbing to the do-righter left wing.
The board is not succumbing to anyone. I am sick of taking care of all the crap that is posted and attacks that are in every thread that I am taking it upon myself to eliminate the crap. It comes from me, not any users (they may have input as does any single person on this board) and the input may be used to make a decision but overall it is my decision on what to do with the board.
It is your board, so you do what you think is right. As a businessman however, you should think twice about allowing the tail to wag the dog. It is pretty obvious that a few thin skinned individuals pressured you to include the ignore button. You don't see any of the significant contributors whining about an ignore button. Mosdt of the comments in favor of it have come from the few women on the board. Should we cater to their needs?
As you must know, the ignore button goes a long way towards stifling discussion. It a homogenizing effect on any message board. The fun in a message board is reading drastic, and different points of views. Why is it not enough to just skip over any poster and/or poster that you don't choose to read? No body forces anyone to read a post.
From strictly a business point of view, I believe that you will see interest wane as posts become more homogenous. We will see. I can already detect it happening. Anyone else feel this way?
I have been thinking about the ignore feature long before anyone requested it, just never had the time.
What is the difference between someone using the ignore button or just skipping your posts? There won't be any posting differences at all.
You say that the ignore feature is lowing the quality of the discussions, but wouldn't the same effect happen if they were to just skip your posts. Either way your post is not read, therefore the discussion about your post wouldn't exist.
The ignore feature makes some happy that they don't have to worry about other users posts if they don't want to read them. Not everyone uses it but it is their right to use it. As a business man, I need to implement new ideas to make everyone happy, not just a few. This feature makes people that might not have enjoyed the site as much, now enjoy it more as the others that don't really care about the ignore feature not be affected at all.
Therefore as a businessman, this new implementation has increased the approval rating of eGriz and will allow more users enjoy the site.
Over-moderation? I've never felt that to be a problem on these boards. I say what I want to say in a civil manner and things perk right along.
I do get tired of wading through pages of posts in which posters descend from rational discussion into a pit of personal attacks. I have no issue at all with deleting or moving those posts.
Honestly, most of the more aggressive posters start with reasonable points but their hyperbole and posturing makes them less credible for me and apparently some other posters as well. If they'd turn down the rhetorical heat a bit, our louder posters may find others more willing to give them a serious listen.
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