The news is reporting that his arraignment is a week from today.

free jimmy #18 wrote:Mr. Jimmy Wilson was probably one of the best corners in 1-aa and will be missed.I know him on a personel level and he is one of the most loyal individual i have ever been around.And this is a family issue he delt with.Most people in the same situation would have tried to handle it on their own.And if it comes as no suprise too many that didnt know him like i did u didnt know the true Jimmy Wilson.All that i have to say is no one can talk smack about a great corner and even more important, a genuine, great individual.

The true Jimmy Wilson? You mean the Jimmy Wilson that pulled a gun on a guy in Missoula because Jimmy was fooling around with that guy's girlfriend? Or are you talking about the Jimmy Wilson that starts brawls downtown? Oh I know! You're talking about the Jimmy Wilson that slammed a girl's head into the hood of a car and then told her that he would have her dealt with if she told the police.

And these are only the stories I know of that came from people who were actually there. Not only is Jimmy a bad person, he has also incited other Griz players who I believe are genuinely good people, to join his thug acts.

I have seen him start fights downtown when he's with his whole "crew" and obviously the other party loses when it's 10 football players against 2-4 people. And I can confirm that people have went to the hospital from these outnumbered brawls.

I am not sure if the police were involved in any of these incidents so I don't think it's necessarily right to say Hauck should be held responsible for having delinquent players if he never knew about it. I do know that some of the Missoula police are A LOT easier on UM football players than the average john doe Missoulian. I've heard numerous stories about football players getting pulled over while being absolutely hammered and when the police recognize who they pulled over they don't even begin to question if they've been drinking or not, and let them go on their merry way. When was the last time you remember a UM Football player getting a DUI? I can't remember any recently, but I could be wrong.

I'd also like to add that there are way more respectable and upstanding members of the UM Football team than there are bad ones. In fact I have only come across a small handful of them that I don't like, Jimmy Wilson topping that list. Hopefully the bad seeds like him will all be weeded out one day and then every player on the team will actually deserve the attention and respect that Missoula gives them.

emilsson_2000 wrote:

ForShizzleGrizzle wrote:First off I don't even think it is legal by the NCAA to force any kid to stay at the U during summer for practice. These things are usually voluntary. Now if you want to start then it is your best interest to be there.

And I am getting about sick of the "inner city" posts on this board. Its terrible and disgusting to even hear how many ignorant people we have out there in Grizland.

First off Fo Nizzle, I live in the "inner city" and I work in the "inner city"....with behavior kids, and when I say trouble starts in these places, it's because it's true. Your Helena expertise at spotting "farm boy" comments is amazing. You should start your own radio show called "Let me find fault with anything you say" starring Fo Drizzle.

Let's just be clear about Lancaster, CA., It is not the inner city, not even close. And the 44900 block of 16th ST. East, which is where this shooting took place, is nicer than much of Missoula's South Hill.

Let's hear it for basketball...

This is definitely an unfortunate incident and a sad day for grizzly football and here is my observation.

It is very interesting that a lot of people are stereotyping people from California. I have been to California and Missoula Montana is much more like the places I have been in California than it is like where I live in British Columbia. I just find it interesting that people here in remote British Columbia look at places like Montana like Montanans look at California and I believe the stereotypes are wrong in both cases.

I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

sid2000 wrote:

Silvertip wrote:

sid2000 wrote:As of now it isn't looking good for Wilson. Usually when a person turns himself in to the authorities it's a pretty good sign that they are guilty of the crime. This is sad news for Jimmy Wilson, his family, the victim, the victim's family and Griznation. This just seems like bad karma kicking us in the butt for all the trash talking some Griz fans have done for the events in Bozeman. We'll have to wait and see what comes of this situation.

Oh, really? Following this convoluted logic we can assume someone is innocent if he runs from the law?

That's the dumbest statement I've read on here today. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word guilty, but rather associated with or has knowledge of what happened at the scene of the crime. You don't turn yourself into the authorities unless you're involved. Turning yourself into the authorities is easier and looks better than having the police come and arrest you.

I suppose this will soon be a case of beating a dead horse on this sub-issue -- particularly when the main subject of this thread is such a serious subject. Even so, you need to rethink your comment "you don't turn yourself into the authorities unless you're involved." It is clear you have never been accused of a crime and therefore in the position of determining what is the correct course of action under all of the attendant circumstances. MANY cases lawyers handle involve perfectly innocent clients, many of whom cooperate in the arrest procedure. Many people who are truly guilty of a crime also cooperate in the arrest procedure. The point is: you cannot determine anything by the simple fact that a person turned themself in. I am willing the bet any lawyer having criminal defense experience who may be reading this thread will disagree with your statement.

Enough on that!

ronbo wrote:Are you Reggie's Dad or a relative?

I am not a friend or relative of Reggie. I am just a football fan and a Montana Alum. I am First Nation Canadian and I came to Montana in the eighties to go to school.

Re/MaxGriz wrote:I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

The way things go on this board, if they had spoken out against JW previously, they would have been called negative fans and there would have been calls for the posters to be banned.

For the record, I have a good friend who's roomie used to "date" Jimmy. The stories I heard would support the "bad person" position. Although I never heard stories of physical violence, I did hear about guns several times.

Re/MaxGriz wrote:I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

that is true, and a very good point. when i was reading "negative posts" on jimmy the first thing i did was look and see how many posts said poster had maid....i notice there are also some posters who are not new posting similar opinions.
and forgive me for being vague, but i've met interacted with jimmy at his home and found him pleasant to me, this occured on more than one occasion. I also concluded he had family back home that cared about him very much.
I will further say, and be even more vague, is that i've also seen and heard (from first rate people who witnessed first hand) some less than stellar behavior, and he's not the only player that was doing such things. I will leave it at that for right now.

in short, i think there is some truth to "both sides" of the picture being painted about Jimmy's prior actions and behaviors.

TheFunksta wrote:

free jimmy #18 wrote:Mr. Jimmy Wilson was probably one of the best corners in 1-aa and will be missed.I know him on a personel level and he is one of the most loyal individual i have ever been around.And this is a family issue he delt with.Most people in the same situation would have tried to handle it on their own.And if it comes as no suprise too many that didnt know him like i did u didnt know the true Jimmy Wilson.All that i have to say is no one can talk smack about a great corner and even more important, a genuine, great individual.

The true Jimmy Wilson? You mean the Jimmy Wilson that pulled a gun on a guy in Missoula because Jimmy was fooling around with that guy's girlfriend? Or are you talking about the Jimmy Wilson that starts brawls downtown? Oh I know! You're talking about the Jimmy Wilson that slammed a girl's head into the hood of a car and then told her that he would have her dealt with if she told the police.

And these are only the stories I know of that came from people who were actually there. Not only is Jimmy a bad person, he has also incited other Griz players who I believe are genuinely good people, to join his thug acts.

I have seen him start fights downtown when he's with his whole "crew" and obviously the other party loses when it's 10 football players against 2-4 people. And I can confirm that people have went to the hospital from these outnumbered brawls.

I am not sure if the police were involved in any of these incidents so I don't think it's necessarily right to say Hauck should be held responsible for having delinquent players if he never knew about it. I do know that some of the Missoula police are A LOT easier on UM football players than the average john doe Missoulian. I've heard numerous stories about football players getting pulled over while being absolutely hammered and when the police recognize who they pulled over they don't even begin to question if they've been drinking or not, and let them go on their merry way. When was the last time you remember a UM Football player getting a DUI? I can't remember any recently, but I could be wrong.

I'd also like to add that there are way more respectable and upstanding members of the UM Football team than there are bad ones. In fact I have only come across a small handful of them that I don't like, Jimmy Wilson topping that list. Hopefully the bad seeds like him will all be weeded out one day and then every player on the team will actually deserve the attention and respect that Missoula gives them.

First off have some respect for a player that is on your football team you sit in the stands and cheer and wish you were on the team.It seems like you have a vendetta against a great athlete and even if your alleged downtown incidents are true then so be it.People get into fights all the time.And im pretty shure that he didnt drag people into these allegations, they were their and got involved.You make him out to be such a bad person.You know what spend a day with him cause ive spent plenty even roomed with the man and tell me what you think.what?

TheFunksta wrote:I have seen him start fights downtown when he's with his whole "crew" and obviously the other party loses when it's 10 football players against 2-4 people. And I can confirm that people have went to the hospital from these outnumbered brawls.

I hope none of these other gangsters are on the team, are they?

Funksta, glad you could suddenly show up to spread these rumors. Lets see your proof, you said you can confirm.

Re/MaxGriz wrote:I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

i find that rather odd too

Re/MaxGriz wrote:I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

I used to just "lurk" on this site and get news here until one day there was a thread relating directly to one of my friends on the team in which I could offer some first-hand knowledge and contribute to the topic. Just because they have less than 20 posts doesn't mean they are bullshit.

Re/MaxGriz wrote:I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

You have an excellent point about people having little posts saying these things. However my friend, I hate to break it to you, one of your beloved grizzlies IS a thug. I understand you're in denial because what we are saying sounds pretty far fetched if you have never heard of witnessed any of his behavior before. But I'm sorry, quit being naive, this guy is now being charged with murder so it really isn't so far fetched now is it? If he's guilty of this it pretty much already proves he had a gun so that would also back up the stories of him pulling a gun on people in Missoula.

Reason I never have posted here is because I am not a big sports fan like most of you here. I occupy my time with other interests. I'm not trying to downplay your interest in sports, I'm just explaining why I don't post here and that is because this is a board for sports fans. I only have been to this site a few times and that was to look at the photos they have. I came on here today because I wanted to see if there was any more up to date news on here about his situation than elsewhere. As I expected there would be people that would defend him on here that haven't seen his behavior.

Whatever happened in Los Angeles I can not speak on. He could be 100% innocent for all I know. I'm just trying to let those of you know the side of Jimmy Wilson I have seen that most of you griz fans have not had the pleasure to witness. I'm not calling him a murderer, just telling you what I know about his behavior in Missoula. You can keep denying it, but the truth is going to come out because of this charge against him.

What these people say about him being a loyal friend and family member may very well be true, and I believe it more than I don't. That doesn't mean he's not a thug and hasn't done the things people are starting to say on here about him though.

Turd Ferguson wrote:

Re/MaxGriz wrote:I find it funny that suddenly a bunch of new posters show up or ones who hardly post appear that hide behind an anonomous screen name and claim that Jimmy is a thug, has been a thug and always will be a thug and proceed to make a bunch of claims that have either never been heard of or were dismissed as rumor years ago.

I used to just "lurk" on this site and get news here until one day there was a thread relating directly to one of my friends on the team in which I could offer some first-hand knowledge and contribute to the topic. Just because they have less than 20 posts doesn't mean they are bullshit.

Exactly! I had nothing to contribute to this board until I came across this topic.

My roomate, who hardly follows sports at all, claimed him to be a thug as well today. Her friend used to date JW and they were all out once when he started a brawl, where he "beat the shit" out of some kid. For what my account is worth...

grizfnz's post above about posters being called negative fans for calling a player a thug before something like this happens is spot on. There are so many ignorant homers on this site it's unbelievable. There are assholes on every football team, high school right up through the NFL. I've known plenty who played for the Griz. And I've been aware of players taking part in illegal activities (hell, I've smoked weed with a few household Griz names), so I'm not surprised that something like this could happen to the Griz.

No team or person is perfect, so lets just support the Griz and be thankful that this guy is off the team and out of our town. Bringing a gun to settle a dipute, whatever his intentions, is shady at best. Hope the other players learn from this and conduct thier lives differently.

Jimmy Wilson is a disease to this community and the entire world regardless of if these charges are true....I hope he is kicked off the team no matter what the result of the case is so he never comes back to Missoula.

I echoe the comments of all the previous posters that Wilson is a thug. He deserves to be locked up for all the sh*t he has pulled in Missoula, let alone if he really took a mans life. His exit from this town, save for his contributions on the field, will do nothing but strenghten it and make it a safer, less infested place to live.

Yep it is my first post for those of you keeping track!
Well we've covered the gamut of good guy to bad guy to I don't know what to think of him.
The racial, city, state call should not be a part of the dialog, in reality there are off centered people across the board. Even in high places, so there are no examples that hold true anymore.
Times they are a changin, Dylan said that.
We are who we are from the heart, not from any other place..I said that.
Let the chips fall and where they fall hope is it will be in a place of truth and justice.
No bad deeds go unpunished whether they happen on the streets of Montana or the driveways in California.......trust in the seeds you cast because someday they will sprout hopefully as................ flowers.
Back to the Griz site, I smell football....do you? Its in the air.

Just because you guys go to the games on Saturdays or have run into him at booster events does not mean you have seen Jimmy in his true form. If you want to know what he is like outside the football field go talk to the bartenders, DJ's, and fellow student athletes that see him out and about around town. Ask some of the girls that he has dated. Ask me. I grew up going to Griz football games and loved cheering on Dickenson, Wells, Douglas etc... However, the last few years of going to school with Jimmy and others who feel the need to be "thuggish" wherever they go has completely tainted my love of Saturday afternoons at Washington-Grizzly.

I really hope that Jimmy is innocent. I pray he doesn't ever come back to Missoula.

Right now fox news has this story as the "pictured" headline story on their website. They usually change every few hours. The article it links to is the same AP line that we've all seen by now, mentions the Cat's woes as well. All in all a black day for the Big Sky and the great state of Montana.

Fox News

mslaman56 wrote:Jimmy Wilson is a disease to this community and the entire world regardless of if these charges are true....I hope he is kicked off the team no matter what the result of the case is so he never comes back to Missoula.

I echoe the comments of all the previous posters that Wilson is a thug. He deserves to be locked up for all the sh*t he has pulled in Missoula, let alone if he really took a mans life. His exit from this town, save for his contributions on the field, will do nothing but strenghten it and make it a safer, less infested place to live.

Damn Mslaman,

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

MrTitleist wrote:

Re/MaxGriz wrote:Yeah I know, can't deny the facts with that. However it could've just as easily been Montana kids doing this crap.

Could have.. but thank god, it hasn't been. It's funny.. Montanans are known for being gun toting rednecks who are NRA supporters and f$%,k the dems and their gun laws.. yet, we know not to point them at people. Funny how that works.

This pisses me off even more today. You think maybe the reason we want more reasonable gun control laws is BECAUSE we have so many murders and other gun problems? We have a million other young people like Jimmy Wilson. We have things called poor people who live in things called cities. We have minorities and immigrants. We also have things called gangs. You don't have these things in Montana yet we have to live with your gun laws because everyone is so damn scared of the NRA.

You can have all the guns you want for all I care - I just want to see the annual murder count in Oakland drop below 100 someday. I guess some of us have that crazy notion that if there are fewer guns on the street, if problem gun stores are closed, if it's harder to get a gun, that fewer people will be killed by guns.