Re/MaxGriz wrote:poorgriz wrote:Griz Football Players that were either brought here with rap sheets, or got into trouble with the law after arriving:
Jimmy Wilson
Quenton Freeman
Tim Parks
Greg Coleman
Mike Shelton
Jeremy Pate
Brent Russum
Lex Hilliard
JD Quinn
Craig Chambers
Willie Walden
Vernon Smith
David Haile
These are off the top of my head, I'm sure I am missing some. There were also some rumors of other players getting into trouble and I know at least one of them was valid but I won't name names. I think the entire team should be drug tested today and boot everyone with anything but alcohol and pot in their system. I said the same thing after our debacle in Bozeman. The "Gang" culture is huge into cocaine right now and this would hopefully weed out more of the "gangsters" still festering in our programs. That list it far too long to ignore. It looks like a "Crisis in Leadership"...

Walden plead guilty to I believe misdeamenor trespassing in an event that involved a house that he used to live at with his girlfriend.
On his radio show Bobby mentioned that a bunch of recent legal issues had been acquitted, I'm not sure which.
Wilson - no argument there
Freeman - Hit somebody downtown, allegedly a witness to the Wilson thing, but no one really knows
Parks - Well documented, I haven't heard much since and he's not on that police report, was he acquitted?
Coleman/Shelton/Pate - We'll see what happens here
Brent Russum - Has been a great person since being here, Bobby even mentioned Brent as a great "turn-around" story. He left his previous school b/c he took some photos of his then girlfriend right? Stupid, yes. Horrible crime against society? Not sure there...
Lex Hilliard - Accused once by a crazy ex of scaring her when they got in a fight and he threw an A/C machine across the room, as I recall. Wasn't actually arrested or ever charged, was he?
JD Quinn - A DUI, and not the 1st. Missed almost 1/4 of the season because of it, has been clean ever since and I believe went to counciling for alcohol abuse, right?
Chambers - I know he didn't get along with Willingham at UW but did he ever have a "rap" as poorgriz suggests? I don't think he was ever in legal trouble, just didn't see eye-to-eye with his coaches.
Walden - Similar to Chambers, left his team b/c he was having problems w/the coaches, not arrests.
Smith - Yep, we know about what happened with with Vernon.
Haile - Can't recall with him.[/quote]
You guys can keep singling out all these things and trying to defend them one at a time... but it is pretty clear to most people that the number of incidents indicates a pattern. Nobody is saying it's any better or worse than all the crap that went on in Bozo, but if you don't think that these things indicate a serious problem with the program then... what's that river in Egypt...