JV, I beg to differ. Just bad luck and aberrations. Judged over the 5 years, BH has been here the stats look much different. Murder was an aberration, crime of passion and didn't occur in Montana. Freeman was a mistake and bad apple, who has been involved in a number of the problems. We'll see what comes of Parks' deal, but it's probably just something that happens occasionally. I bet he didn't have a gun, but base that only on what some posters said. The recent event, while horrible, is an aberration, and it was led by the one clear bad apple. The talk around town is that a number of these criminal allegations will be reduced or dropped.

griztastic wrote:
For a time here in missoula at a middle school...there were a group of teachers that every year would have a pool on who would end up in trouble with the cops before they left HS, pregnant, dropping out of HS and spending serious time in Prison before or after HS.

The teachers hit 93%


That is what I'm talking about! It can be done, its not a blind shot in the dark, it just takes skill, and experience... Obviously, coaches don't spend as much time with the students as the teachers do, so they probably aren't going to be as accurate, but gauging character is a skill and head coaches should have it.

If they don't have it then they should ask Middle School Teachers

Doesn't that mean that the teachers also miss on 7 out of every 100 kids? This is after spending considerable time with the kids for part of the school year. The coaches get to make some phone calls, and see them for part of a weekend.

PlayerRep wrote:JV, I beg to differ. Just bad luck and aberrations. Judged over the 5 years, BH has been here the stats look much different. Murder was an aberration, crime of passion and didn't occur in Montana. Freeman was a mistake and bad apple, who has been involved in a number of the problems. We'll see what comes of Parks' deal, but it's probably just something that happens occasionally. I bet he didn't have a gun, but base that only on what some posters said. The recent event, while horrible, is an aberration, and it was led by the one clear bad apple. The talk around town is that a number of these criminal allegations will be reduced or dropped.

Honestly, are you OK with it just because it he didn't kill someone in Missoula? I doubt it. As far as being a crime of passion, I read the article and my heart went out to the kid, I could see myself in a similiar situation and maybe I would do the same... Then I remembered this is the same kid that flashed gang signs in the first team meeting when he introduced himself in front of everyone, including coaches.

Have you seen any other crimes this serious committed by a Griz? Let alone 2 very serious and violent crimes within a span of months.... Not to mention every offender in the last 5 years has been one of BH's recruits, think about that, the first 2-3 years the team consisted of and was lead by Glenn's and Dennehy's (sp?) recruits, BH's recruits are just recently taking over this team , but they account for all the blackeyes..... Abberation or not, the program suffers from this, and for everyone to just turn their head and say it was a string of bad luck is a surefire way to avoid a SOLUTION.

Vernon Smith wasn't a Hauck recruit. Wilson wasn't a gang guy in Ca. Hauck's recruits are not "just recently taking over" the team. They have dominated the team for the past several years. Why don't you get your facts straight before you post, JV. We can see you have an axe to grind, but you still don't get to make up your facts.