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Postby Turd Ferguson on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:40 pm

Hauck's first FBS job will be . . . University of Montana. Western Athletic Conference. 2011.
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Postby AllWeatherFan on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:43 pm

For the most part, I agree with ci-tay.

If Hauck has a successful 2008 campaign, and avoids off-the-field distractions, I suspect he'll be back in the mix for some of these jobs when heads start to roll next year.

I suspect that "offensive fireworks" may be a bit over-rated. Yeah, it's fun to see it when things click, but there are plenty of "pass it all over the field" teams out there with losing records.

As somebody pointed out recently, sometimes what you can do on offense is dictated by the personnel you have. If I had Lex Hilliard in the backfield, I'd hand him the ball. I loved the end of the NAU game, when NAU knew damn well we were gonna give it to Lex up the middle, and there wasn't a thing they could do about it. Unfortunately, our offensive line couldn't have their way with more of the defensive fronts we played last season.

All those in favor of "more creative play-calling" raise their hands. Okay, now what exactly does that mean? Nothing.
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Postby griztastic on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:56 pm

Once again after reading certain posts....I have a migraine. I'd better hurry before I miss the BH boat. :thumb:

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Postby AllWeatherFan on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:59 pm

Wait, is this a True-False test?
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Postby fanofzoo on Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:38 pm

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All those in favor of "more creative play-calling" raise their hands. Okay, now what exactly does that mean? Nothing.

I strongly disagree. It means calling plays that even my wife knows that are coming. Keep the defense guessing not just left or right.
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Postby spsyk on Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:08 pm

Bronco wrote:"Montana athletic director Jim O'Day did say that neither CSU nor Washington State - nor any other program - had contacted him about talking to Hauck."

So much for all those rumors.



If I remember right, nobody contacted O'Day last year either, however BH had some dialog with a few schools.
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Postby spsyk on Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:22 pm

PlayerRep wrote:BH is a very good administrator and is very organized. It's one of his strengths.

BH is very good with in-person meetings with and presentations to fans and boosters. He's very personable.

BH doesn't like the Missoulian. He seems to get along well with the local radio and tv people. The newspaper types don't like BH's refusal to provide info on injuries, etc.

I doubt that AD's at other schools share the view of some UM fans on RP. I've been told by the athletic dept. that RP is well thought of by other AD's with whom the subject has come up (this is probably a small number).

I don't know if the Pac-10 is within BH's reach from UM, but I do know that some at UW have an eye on him.



BH can't provide the Missoulian with players injuries, its against the law.

I don't think RP is mention at ALL by any AD.

And I believe that BH will be in Missoula for a long time to come.
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Postby '68griz on Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:08 pm

No, it's not against the law to talk about player injuries. You just need to get the players' signatures to allow it. Hauck chooses not to do that, I guess. Many coaches routinely discuss player injuries; some put out sort of a weekly announcements, akin to what NFL teams do.
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Postby flyjuice on Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:02 am

68 Griz--------

The only reason the NFL releases info on injury's is simply Las Vegas or should I explain sports wagering. That's it period. IAA football is the least of Vegas worries. It's Wednesday and you can hardly find a line for the 1AA chipper.
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Postby Big One 25 on Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:16 am

Why in the hell are people so worried about him not commenting on injuries? That is just smart not to comment on that kind of thing.
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Postby griz8791 on Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:05 am

Ditto. To me that one is a long way down on the list of arguable grievances.
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Postby citygriz on Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:15 am

the components of a collegiate football program are: players; coaches and administrators; fans, media. to me, fans rank high in importance since without their support there would be no salaries for coaches, little scholarship money for players and zero interest from the media.

so why keep the fans in the dark about key injuries?

over on the women's side, one of our star players, mandy morales, has been out much of the past month with a foot injury. this is not a casual injury, and she's crucial to the season-long success of the team. thus we have been told her foot is in a boot but she's expected back before the end of the month. fine. that's all i need to know.

on the men's side, chris chambers or any other key player goes down with an injury, and we're left to rumor, gossip and innuendo on this board.

i don't get it, and i don't like, and as a fan, no coach or administrator that wants to run a successful program should be treating me like they don't give a damn or i'm not a critical element of the football program.
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Postby billings_poke on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:04 am

and the player might say.

My medical history is none of your business and they are entitled to that privacy.

If they sign off that is another matter but many may not give permission to release their medical info. I know I would not frankly.
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Postby grizadam on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:17 am

why would you publish player injuries? that is just plan stupid when it comes to football.

other sports it may have some importance but in football in can be very strategic to not disclose who is hurt. why give your oppents any information that may help them prep for your team. duh!!

the team knows, the admin(as they are ultimatley responsible) knows thats all that matters.

as for the fans, it is just selfish and ridiculous to think that you are important enough that the head coach has to give you these detail.
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Postby grizpack on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:18 am

Aside from whether any coach wants to or not, the Administration at UM has directed the athletic department not to comment on health related matters of athletes. It is HIPPA related. This came from Main Hall, not Bobby, not O'Day, etc.

I am not sure why this is such a big deal to some, or so difficult to understand for others. Think of it at your job. Your boss tells you not to release any information on something. If you do there will be penalties, which include civil liability. Are you going to talk to your customers about it. The press???
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Postby AllWeatherFan on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:21 am

Yeah, city, would you want us discussing your, uh, medical problem?
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Postby Harm on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:50 am

One thing everyone should wrap their heads around now rather than later is 2008 is going to be a crappy year. It is more than likely going to be the year we miss the play-offs for the first time in sixteen years. Pretty much all of our so called "talent" no longer have any eligibility left to play ball. Also, there are going to be some "GOOD" teams in the sky. EWU for one is going to be kicking some serious ass with their O line and QB. Portland should be good and NAU will be good, WSU is always a question mark, and I have no idea about ISU. The kittens should get clobbered in our house and no col sucks ass and should be booted out of our conference. The BSC should also fine them for misrepresenting themselves as anywhere near worthy to play in our league. I would say we lose to EWU, Cal poly, and portland. Best guess is 8-3 next year and that's if we get lucky.
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Postby nzone on Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:03 pm

First fo all we don't even know who our recruits are. They may be a great class and the Griz won't miss a beat. Secondly 8-3 probably gets us in the playoffs. Granted we have some issues(most programs do) but I personally think the Griz are the team to beat and will continue to think this way until some one proves us different. 2007 over on to 2008 and another BSC championship!!
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Postby spsyk on Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:37 pm

'68griz wrote:No, it's not against the law to talk about player injuries. You just need to get the players' signatures to allow it. Hauck chooses not to do that, I guess. Many coaches routinely discuss player injuries; some put out sort of a weekly announcements, akin to what NFL teams do.



Well, agreed a loophole for not discussing an athletes injuries, players consent, and Hauck probably feels an advantage not discussing if a player is going to be ready or not.

The Missoulian could find a lot of controversy with BH without resorting to injured players, like what could be done to improve the anemic offense. Or maybe an interview with RP explaining his offense, or his play calling or perhaps the intervention of BH's input into the offense, and BH's play calling. However this is a need to know information, and BH does not seem to believe that fans need to know.

The fans job is to be there cheer, and support the product, "coaches" right or wrong.

The Missoulian is not a very good source for Griz football information, considering Griz football is the biggest show in town and as far as that goes the state.
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Postby griztastic on Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:18 pm

Harm wrote:One thing everyone should wrap their heads around now rather than later is 2008 is going to be a crappy year. It is more than likely going to be the year we miss the play-offs for the first time in sixteen years. Pretty much all of our so called "talent" no longer have any eligibility left to play ball. Also, there are going to be some "GOOD" teams in the sky. EWU for one is going to be kicking some serious ass with their O line and QB. Portland should be good and NAU will be good, WSU is always a question mark, and I have no idea about ISU. The kittens should get clobbered in our house and no col sucks ass and should be booted out of our conference. The BSC should also fine them for misrepresenting themselves as anywhere near worthy to play in our league. I would say we lose to EWU, Cal poly, and portland. Best guess is 8-3 next year and that's if we get lucky.


That will be lucky. I was thinking more along the lines of 7-5 if continue with the lame offense.
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Postby Downwiththefoe on Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:24 pm

griztastic wrote:
Harm wrote:One thing everyone should wrap their heads around now rather than later is 2008 is going to be a crappy year. It is more than likely going to be the year we miss the play-offs for the first time in sixteen years. Pretty much all of our so called "talent" no longer have any eligibility left to play ball. Also, there are going to be some "GOOD" teams in the sky. EWU for one is going to be kicking some serious ass with their O line and QB. Portland should be good and NAU will be good, WSU is always a question mark, and I have no idea about ISU. The kittens should get clobbered in our house and no col sucks ass and should be booted out of our conference. The BSC should also fine them for misrepresenting themselves as anywhere near worthy to play in our league. I would say we lose to EWU, Cal poly, and portland. Best guess is 8-3 next year and that's if we get lucky.


That will be lucky. I was thinking more along the lines of 7-5 if continue with the lame offense.


very possible...and a playoff loss could make them 7-6.

I've never seen an offense of a top program struggle the way this one does...series after series...game after game....year after year.

The talent pool is getting shallow (Think ahead to next years Graduation)...the level of competition of the teams the Griz play and their confidence level is gaining.
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Postby kemajic on Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:32 pm

Downwiththefoe wrote:
griztastic wrote:
Harm wrote:One thing everyone should wrap their heads around now rather than later is 2008 is going to be a crappy year. It is more than likely going to be the year we miss the play-offs for the first time in sixteen years. Pretty much all of our so called "talent" no longer have any eligibility left to play ball. Also, there are going to be some "GOOD" teams in the sky. EWU for one is going to be kicking some serious ass with their O line and QB. Portland should be good and NAU will be good, WSU is always a question mark, and I have no idea about ISU. The kittens should get clobbered in our house and no col sucks ass and should be booted out of our conference. The BSC should also fine them for misrepresenting themselves as anywhere near worthy to play in our league. I would say we lose to EWU, Cal poly, and portland. Best guess is 8-3 next year and that's if we get lucky.


That will be lucky. I was thinking more along the lines of 7-5 if continue with the lame offense.


very possible...and a playoff loss could make them 7-6.

I've never seen an offense of a top program struggle the way this one does...series after series...game after game....year after year.

The talent pool is getting shallow (Think ahead to next years Graduation)...the level of competition of the teams the Griz play and their confidence level is gaining.


Unlikely to get into the playoffs at 7-5; at least 3 losses would have to be BSC.
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