The definition of "winning ugly"?

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The definition of "winning ugly"?

Postby SIDELINE on Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:04 pm

Great read if you have the time.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... w27m0.html

This link is for the intro... other parts can be linked off that page.

Today is part 3 of 4 on the 2000 UW football team... how the path to a rose bowl overshadowed some really sorry off the field actions by a few key players.

Well researched, well written, and quite sad.
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Postby djollieballs on Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:10 pm

I had no idea things were that bad at UW.

Hauck was a coach on that team, right?

It's pretty easy to draw parallels to the way Bob and Rick run/ran their teams.

Seemingly benign conduct issues (Chambers at Pressbox and Washington's rehab treatments issue) are settled with an iron fist while serious transgressions (Wilson punching Mcgillis and multiple reports of him pointing his gun at people and Coleman's violent past) are looked at with a blind eye.

Bob obviously didn't learn any lessons in Seattle.

Is he capable of learning his lesson?

Why does he keep getting second chances? I'll just file it under support for my theory that Montanans are bred to be gluttons for punishment.
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Postby Butters on Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:14 pm

Terrible story. While Neuheisel looks like a schmuck, the real criminals appear to be the professionals in the area, like the prosecutors office and pretty much anybody in the Washington judicial system. And, Barb Hedges too...
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Postby HiddenGriz on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:56 pm

djollieballs...... :lame:
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Postby SIDELINE on Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:39 pm

HiddenGriz wrote:djollieballs...... :lame:


agreed... not at all why i posted this link.
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Postby PlayerRep on Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:41 pm

What are the sources of this statement?

"Wilson punching Mcgillis and multiple reports of him pointing his gun at people and Coleman's violent past"

There were multiple people involved in the McGillis incident/fight. I don't believe Wilson was the primary person in that fight. (I have talked to be who witnessed the fight, ones who were involved in the fight and ones who interviewed people involved in the fight.)

First, I don't believe there are in fact multiple credible reports of Wilson pointing a gun at anyone. In fact, I don't believe that statement is accurate. Second, I know that no such report was made to the coaches, nor, from what the police stated publicly about Wilson, was it reported to them.

Coleman's past involved his running from a party, at the end of his junior year of high school, and running over a bunch of cops, dislocating one's shoulder. His only other incident was pushing someone back after they pushed him while in line for the bathroom at a bar (an incident/charge that was dropped and never pursued). Coleman was recommended by the Iowa St. coaches, the head coaches of Ohio St. and I believe Notre Dame.

I don't see how a bar fight involving 10 or more people (in which no one was charged), something that was never reported to the coaches or the cops (and probably never occurred), or the Coleman facts--can be held against Hauck.
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Postby HiddenGriz on Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:25 pm

djollieballs I still can't figure out if you have a blind eye or just tunnel vision.
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Postby grizpack on Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:37 am

We just need a "stirring the pot" emoticon.
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