Is everyone satisfied with Sen. Obama's explanation for his relationship with Rev. Wright? Watch the entire address here.

I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed at all yet.

Last week he said he didn't hear his controversial sermons...today he said he did.
I think he's fessing up because there's proof out there that he was there.
Maybe he forgot.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23648883/

says he wasn’t there

newsmax reporter says he was there with him

In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.

B.O.’s campaign denied it and pointed out that he was in Miami that day.

Campaign tracker says he was in Chicago.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008 ... 07/jul/22/


Campaign Tracker
Events on July 22, 2007
Barack Obama
Time N/A, Speech in Miami Beach, FL.
Time N/A, Appearance in Chicago, IL.
Appearance
Participating Candidates
Barack Obama
Event Details
Date: July 22, 2007
Time: N/A
Location: Chicago, IL

I think the Obama camp is addressing things now in anticipation he is going to win the nomination, and the Reps will be bringing all these things up, so may as well start facing it now.

This will probably open the door for the super delegates to switch to Hillary.
I think Barack “whose middle name must not be spoken” Obama is toast.
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More than half of Democrats and nearly two-thirds of Republicans would be less likely to support Sen. Barack Obama for president after viewing video clips of his longtime friend and pastor espousing a radical "black power" worldview, a poll showed yesterday.

Before viewing the video, a majority of voters — Democrats, Republicans and independents — said Mr. Obama's ties to Mr. Wright would hurt his campaign efforts. However, after viewing the video, more than two-thirds of voters from each political affiliation said the sermons would hurt Mr. Obama's presidential bid

Among Democrats, 64 percent said they hurt Mr. Obama before viewing the video and 77 percent felt that way after seeing the video. Republicans went from 71 percent to 84 percent, and independents from 65 percent to 78 percent, the poll showed.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbc ... 06595/1001

Obama's "mentor" says "damn American"...........and he still won't sever ties with him.

what - anger at your own country's failings is unpatriotic?

in other words,"damn american" means nothing without some context. which was?

tampa_griz wrote:Obama's "mentor" says "damn American"...........and he still won't sever ties with him.

Obama has disavowed the words, and that is enough for me, especially when the alternatives are more Bush (aka McCain) and Hillary.

I listened to the speech and came away very impressed with Obama. His perspective on race in America was very refreshing to hear. He brought up a lot of good points. I don't think the man is qualified to be president, but I do have a huge amount of respect and admiration for him.

GrizWhiz wrote:

tampa_griz wrote:Obama's "mentor" says "damn American"...........and he still won't sever ties with him.

Obama has disavowed the words, and that is enough for me, especially when the alternatives are more Bush (aka McCain) and Hillary.

McCain and Bush's politics and styles are very dissimilar from a conservatives perspective. It's unfortunate that any republican candidate is going to be likened to Bush by the left no matter how different their politics are.

This was blown so far out of proportion, it's almost sick. His pastor said stuff that was waaay over the top, yes. Obama denounced it, and had a press conference saying so as well. However since his pastor said it, it's being treated like Barack said it.

I'd love to see a list of what people associated with McCain and Clinton have said and have it held against them too, I mean we're practically judging Barack as guilty by association, right?

And McCain spoke at Liberty University, Falwell being no less a bigot or America hater than Rev. Wright.

Big deal.

HighLineGRIZ wrote:

GrizWhiz wrote:

tampa_griz wrote:Obama's "mentor" says "damn American"...........and he still won't sever ties with him.

Obama has disavowed the words, and that is enough for me, especially when the alternatives are more Bush (aka McCain) and Hillary.

McCain and Bush's politics and styles are very dissimilar from a conservatives perspective. It's unfortunate that any republican candidate is going to be likened to Bush by the left no matter how different their politics are.

Explain the dissimilarities. McCain has morphed into Bush on taxes and torture. He supports Bush's war and speaks of staying there 100 years. He says he knows little about economic matters (which Bush has not said, but has clearly demonstrated). McCain's transformation into Bush was helpful in winning the Republican nomination. It will bite him in the ass during the general election, and rightfully so.

Re/MaxGriz wrote:This was blown so far out of proportion, it's almost sick. His pastor said stuff that was waaay over the top, yes. Obama denounced it, and had a press conference saying so as well. However since his pastor said it, it's being treated like Barack said it.

I'd love to see a list of what people associated with McCain and Clinton have said and have it held against them too, I mean we're practically judging Barack as guilty by association, right?

Didn't your parents tell you that you will always be judged by the people you associate with? Not saying it is right, but it happens each and every day, and I doubt there is a person on this board, if honest, would deny that they are guilty of the very same thing. So is it a big deal? Of course, or Obama would not be taking the time to address it. He knows someone from his own party of the other side of the aisle will try and make it an issue.

Grizbacker1 wrote:

Didn't your parents tell you that you will always be judged by the people you associate with? Not saying it is right, but it happens each and every day, and I doubt there is a person on this board, if honest, would deny that they are guilty of the very same thing. So is it a big deal? Of course, or Obama would not be taking the time to address it. He knows someone from his own party of the other side of the aisle will try and make it an issue.

Good point, but fair minded republicans such as yourself won't make it an issue right?

kalm wrote:

Grizbacker1 wrote:

Didn't your parents tell you that you will always be judged by the people you associate with? Not saying it is right, but it happens each and every day, and I doubt there is a person on this board, if honest, would deny that they are guilty of the very same thing. So is it a big deal? Of course, or Obama would not be taking the time to address it. He knows someone from his own party of the other side of the aisle will try and make it an issue.

Good point, but fair minded republicans such as yourself won't make it an issue right?

If I thought it was an issue, you should know me well enough I would say so. Frankly, I could not care less.

Grizbacker1 wrote:

kalm wrote:

Grizbacker1 wrote:

Didn't your parents tell you that you will always be judged by the people you associate with? Not saying it is right, but it happens each and every day, and I doubt there is a person on this board, if honest, would deny that they are guilty of the very same thing. So is it a big deal? Of course, or Obama would not be taking the time to address it. He knows someone from his own party of the other side of the aisle will try and make it an issue.

Good point, but fair minded republicans such as yourself won't make it an issue right?

If I thought it was an issue, you should know me well enough I would say so. Frankly, I could not care less.

And frankly, that it is why I appreciate you so much. Kind of like the old uncle Barack was speaking of.

And btw, I meant that as a compliment, and not in the bat-shit-crazy sort of way.

kalm wrote:And btw, I meant that as a compliment, and not in the bat-shit-crazy sort of way.

OH OK, cause bat-shit freaks me out!

Re/MaxGriz wrote:This was blown so far out of proportion, it's almost sick. His pastor said stuff that was waaay over the top, yes. Obama denounced it, and had a press conference saying so as well. However since his pastor said it, it's being treated like Barack said it.

I'd love to see a list of what people associated with McCain and Clinton have said and have it held against them too, I mean we're practically judging Barack as guilty by association, right?

It's not just "an association". Wright is his "mentor" and "spiritual advisor". If Fred Phelps was McCain's mentor and spiritual advisor he'd be toast.

Clinton Leads Obama by 26 points
Public Policy Polling ^ | 17 March 2008

After a week filled with bad news for the Obama campaign, Hillary Clinton is out to a 56-30 lead in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary.

Clinton is aided in large part by a 46 point margin over Obama with female voters, 66-20. She leads with men as well although by a considerably tighter margin of 45-41.

I am not satisfied at all with Obama's handling of Reverand Wright.

He has been in his church for over 20 years now, his book title was based upon a sermon he heard at church, he now wants it to go away?

If he disagreed with the message that was being spoken at his church the sensable thing to do is to switch to another, not stick around for 20 years, then toss his preacher under the bus when it is convenient.

this entire thing makes me sick

This columnist thinks it was too little, too late.

Bronco wrote:Clinton Leads Obama by 26 points
Public Policy Polling ^ | 17 March 2008

After a week filled with bad news for the Obama campaign, Hillary Clinton is out to a 56-30 lead in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary.

Clinton is aided in large part by a 46 point margin over Obama with female voters, 66-20. She leads with men as well although by a considerably tighter margin of 45-41.

Interesting. I thought it might be close but she's thumping him. Never count out the Clintons. I understand that now she's blaming Obama for the no-revote matter in Michigan.

Maybe B.O. has not heard the New Black Panthers say anything controversial.

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Obama Web Site Still Carries New Black Panther Party Endorsement
FoxNews.com ^ | March 19, 2008


One day after Barack Obama delivered a speech calling for improved race relations in America, the blogosphere was buzzing Wednesday about whether his campaign planned to remove an endorsement by the New Black Panther Party from his Web site.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGrXCt