Too bad Obama didn't have someone who could tell him Canada doesn't have a President. Of course, it is understandable since Canada is so far from the US and all. Come on GWhiz, name ONE Politician that never misspoke.
Too bad Obama didn't have someone who could tell him Canada doesn't have a President. Of course, it is understandable since Canada is so far from the US and all. Come on GWhiz, name ONE Politician that never misspoke.
True enough. But, when McCain links al Qaeda with Iran in that manner, it is all too reminiscent of some of the BS the Bush administration used to justify invading Iraq. It all ready bugs the hell out of me that McCain has politically morphed into Bush. Prior to his transformation, I think McCain was our best bet to restore some fiscal policy sanity. Not any more.
Haha! The Dems are so damn discombobulated that they're actually gonna start going after McCain on the NC issue? Please tell me that this is an absolute joke GW. McCain is, by far, from his own experience and his own advice, the only hope we have left in that department.
I can understand the left's desperate attempts to link him to something as crazy as Obama's hero's (aka "mentor", "spiritual advisor", "inspiration") anti-Semitic, anti-American, Hamas-endorsing, "Damn America!!!", statements.....
Haha! The Dems are so damn discombobulated that they're actually gonna start going after McCain on the NC issue? Please tell me that this is an absolute joke GW. McCain is, by far, from his own experience and his own advice, the only hope we have left in that department.
I can understand the left's desperate attempts to link him to something as crazy as Obama's hero's (aka "mentor", "spiritual advisor", "inspiration") anti-Semitic, anti-American, Hamas-endorsing, "Damn America!!!", statements.....
But this one is falling way short.
It's over for Obama. It's Clinton vs. McCain.
The Wall Street Journal is not exactly a leftist publication. Do you even know what is being discussed here? McCain's screw up on this has nothing to do with "linking" him to anything. He said something erroneous on an issue that he says is his strength. It is as simple as that. He may very well be linked to some of the right wing nut job evangelists who have endorsed him later in the campaign, but that has nothing to do with this issue. You are right about one thing. The Dems are in disarray. The longer their primary contest goes on, the better for McCain. Whether the Dems self destruct enough to give the general election to McCain remains to be seen. He is going to have to wear this extremely unpopular war, the crumbling economy and our growing deficit/economic crisis throughout the general election campaign. He has joined himself at the hip with Bush and he will pay for this.
Haha! The Dems are so damn discombobulated that they're actually gonna start going after McCain on the NC issue? Please tell me that this is an absolute joke GW. McCain is, by far, from his own experience and his own advice, the only hope we have left in that department.
I can understand the left's desperate attempts to link him to something as crazy as Obama's hero's (aka "mentor", "spiritual advisor", "inspiration") anti-Semitic, anti-American, Hamas-endorsing, "Damn America!!!", statements.....
But this one is falling way short.
It's over for Obama. It's Clinton vs. McCain.
The Wall Street Journal is not exactly a leftist publication. Do you even know what is being discussed here? McCain's screw up on this has nothing to do with "linking" him to anything. He said something erroneous on an issue that he says is his strength. It is as simple as that. He may very well be linked to some of the right wing nut job evangelists who have endorsed him later in the campaign, but that has nothing to do with this issue. You are right about one thing. The Dems are in disarray. The longer their primary contest goes on, the better for McCain. Whether the Dems self destruct enough to give the general election to McCain remains to be seen. He is going to have to wear this extremely unpopular war, the crumbling economy and our growing deficit/economic crisis throughout the general election campaign. He has joined himself at the hip with Bush and he will pay for this.
Your argument that McCain has turned Bush holds very little weight and I'm still waiting to hear a legitimate argument from you that likens the two, rather that the fact that they are both republican. Unfortunatly, this is what the democrats are going to try to do to McCain. I don't understand how you are blaming him for this country's current problems. They are as much his fault as they are Clinton's and Obama's. If you are going to make accusations you best back them up, and don't give me this "he has morphed into Bush" crap.
Haha! The Dems are so damn discombobulated that they're actually gonna start going after McCain on the NC issue? Please tell me that this is an absolute joke GW. McCain is, by far, from his own experience and his own advice, the only hope we have left in that department.
I can understand the left's desperate attempts to link him to something as crazy as Obama's hero's (aka "mentor", "spiritual advisor", "inspiration") anti-Semitic, anti-American, Hamas-endorsing, "Damn America!!!", statements.....
But this one is falling way short.
It's over for Obama. It's Clinton vs. McCain.
The Wall Street Journal is not exactly a leftist publication. Do you even know what is being discussed here? McCain's screw up on this has nothing to do with "linking" him to anything. He said something erroneous on an issue that he says is his strength. It is as simple as that. He may very well be linked to some of the right wing nut job evangelists who have endorsed him later in the campaign, but that has nothing to do with this issue. You are right about one thing. The Dems are in disarray. The longer their primary contest goes on, the better for McCain. Whether the Dems self destruct enough to give the general election to McCain remains to be seen. He is going to have to wear this extremely unpopular war, the crumbling economy and our growing deficit/economic crisis throughout the general election campaign. He has joined himself at the hip with Bush and he will pay for this.
Your argument that McCain has turned Bush holds very little weight and I'm still waiting to hear a legitimate argument from you that likens the two, rather that the fact that they are both republican. Unfortunatly, this is what the democrats are going to try to do to McCain. I don't understand how you are blaming him for this country's current problems. They are as much his fault as they are Clinton's and Obama's. If you are going to make accusations you best back them up, and don't give me this "he has morphed into Bush" crap.
Highline-we did this dance in another thread, right?? McCain agrees with Bush on many more issues than they disagree on. The war, and it's devastating effect on our country, not the least of which is our economic/fiscal security, is a big point of agreement. If I am in error, provide the extensive list of points of disagreement that you must feel exist. We will no doubt continue to disagree, but I don't feel it necessary to label your viewpoint "crap". I'd appreciate it if you would extend me the same courtesy.
If Obama had any stones he'd admit that every single one of his votes on Iraq are identical to Clinton's and McCain's. Who exactly is he kidding?
If he had any guts he'd admit that he agrees with Rev. Wright's positions when he calls him his mentor......when he signs his children up to follow his leadership......when he calls him his spiritual leader.......when he calls him his inspiration.
But he has no convictions. If his pastor, and his beliefs that he has obviously subscribed to, says what he says than Obama should further those arguments and make them a part of his campaigh.
As it stands he's either a liar, a racist, or a pussy. Take your pick I guess.
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9-11 commission said there was a relationship.
"McCain was Right the First Time - Iran is helping al-Qaeda in Iraq"
National Review Online ^ | 21 March 2008 | Christopher W. Holton
The shadowy relationship between Iran and al-Qaeda was first revealed in the report issued by the bipartisan, independent 9/11 Commission back in 2004.
In compiling that exhaustive report, the 9/11 Commission interviewed over 1,000 people from at least 10 countries. Among the conclusions that they reached regarding Iran and al-Qaeda:
In late 1991 or early 1992, in meetings held in Sudan, Iran agreed to train al-Qaeda operatives. Not long afterwards, al-Qaeda terrorists traveled to Iran and received training in explosives. Subsequent to this, al-Qaeda terrorists also traveled to Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley, where they received training from Iranian Revolutionary Guards.
Haha! The Dems are so damn discombobulated that they're actually gonna start going after McCain on the NC issue? Please tell me that this is an absolute joke GW. McCain is, by far, from his own experience and his own advice, the only hope we have left in that department.
I can understand the left's desperate attempts to link him to something as crazy as Obama's hero's (aka "mentor", "spiritual advisor", "inspiration") anti-Semitic, anti-American, Hamas-endorsing, "Damn America!!!", statements.....
But this one is falling way short.
It's over for Obama. It's Clinton vs. McCain.
The Wall Street Journal is not exactly a leftist publication. Do you even know what is being discussed here? McCain's screw up on this has nothing to do with "linking" him to anything. He said something erroneous on an issue that he says is his strength. It is as simple as that. He may very well be linked to some of the right wing nut job evangelists who have endorsed him later in the campaign, but that has nothing to do with this issue. You are right about one thing. The Dems are in disarray. The longer their primary contest goes on, the better for McCain. Whether the Dems self destruct enough to give the general election to McCain remains to be seen. He is going to have to wear this extremely unpopular war, the crumbling economy and our growing deficit/economic crisis throughout the general election campaign. He has joined himself at the hip with Bush and he will pay for this.
Your argument that McCain has turned Bush holds very little weight and I'm still waiting to hear a legitimate argument from you that likens the two, rather that the fact that they are both republican. Unfortunatly, this is what the democrats are going to try to do to McCain. I don't understand how you are blaming him for this country's current problems. They are as much his fault as they are Clinton's and Obama's. If you are going to make accusations you best back them up, and don't give me this "he has morphed into Bush" crap.
Highline-we did this dance in another thread, right?? McCain agrees with Bush on many more issues than they disagree on. The war, and it's devastating effect on our country, not the least of which is our economic/fiscal security, is a big point of agreement. If I am in error, provide the extensive list of points of disagreement that you must feel exist. We will no doubt continue to disagree, but I don't feel it necessary to label your viewpoint "crap". I'd appreciate it if you would extend me the same courtesy.
Yeah, sorry about that, pretty juvenile of me. I didn't mean to say that your viewpoint is "crap", you seem intelligent and I appreciate your perspective on things. However, I just think you're off base on this. Beyond a lot of issues they disagree on, there are some key issues that they do agree on. This however, does not make them similar. McCain has been very critical of the way the Bush administration has handled the war in Iraq. The only decision that he has applauded was the "surge", in which he has been pushing for since we started having trouble over there. The same type of argument can be made on fiscal policy. McCain and Bush are both in favor of tax cuts. However, McCain is a proponent of tax cuts with spending limits. Bush, on the other hand didn't put spending limits in his bill (the primary reason McCain voted no). You see a pattern here? Bush implements his ideas in a wreckless and arrogant manner. This is why he will probably go down as one of the worst presidents in our nations history. McCain has been a proponent of implementing things with safeguards and reason. I will agree that Bush's endorsement could hurt McCain in the general election. I cringed when that happened.
Haha! The Dems are so damn discombobulated that they're actually gonna start going after McCain on the NC issue? Please tell me that this is an absolute joke GW. McCain is, by far, from his own experience and his own advice, the only hope we have left in that department.
I can understand the left's desperate attempts to link him to something as crazy as Obama's hero's (aka "mentor", "spiritual advisor", "inspiration") anti-Semitic, anti-American, Hamas-endorsing, "Damn America!!!", statements.....
But this one is falling way short.
It's over for Obama. It's Clinton vs. McCain.
The Wall Street Journal is not exactly a leftist publication. Do you even know what is being discussed here? McCain's screw up on this has nothing to do with "linking" him to anything. He said something erroneous on an issue that he says is his strength. It is as simple as that. He may very well be linked to some of the right wing nut job evangelists who have endorsed him later in the campaign, but that has nothing to do with this issue. You are right about one thing. The Dems are in disarray. The longer their primary contest goes on, the better for McCain. Whether the Dems self destruct enough to give the general election to McCain remains to be seen. He is going to have to wear this extremely unpopular war, the crumbling economy and our growing deficit/economic crisis throughout the general election campaign. He has joined himself at the hip with Bush and he will pay for this.
Your argument that McCain has turned Bush holds very little weight and I'm still waiting to hear a legitimate argument from you that likens the two, rather that the fact that they are both republican. Unfortunatly, this is what the democrats are going to try to do to McCain. I don't understand how you are blaming him for this country's current problems. They are as much his fault as they are Clinton's and Obama's. If you are going to make accusations you best back them up, and don't give me this "he has morphed into Bush" crap.
Highline-we did this dance in another thread, right?? McCain agrees with Bush on many more issues than they disagree on. The war, and it's devastating effect on our country, not the least of which is our economic/fiscal security, is a big point of agreement. If I am in error, provide the extensive list of points of disagreement that you must feel exist. We will no doubt continue to disagree, but I don't feel it necessary to label your viewpoint "crap". I'd appreciate it if you would extend me the same courtesy.
Yeah, sorry about that, pretty juvenile of me. I didn't mean to say that your viewpoint is "crap", you seem intelligent and I appreciate your perspective on things. However, I just think you're off base on this. Beyond a lot of issues they disagree on, there are some key issues that they do agree on. This however, does not make them similar. McCain has been very critical of the way the Bush administration has handled the war in Iraq. The only decision that he has applauded was the "surge", in which he has been pushing for since we started having trouble over there. The same type of argument can be made on fiscal policy. McCain and Bush are both in favor of tax cuts. However, McCain is a proponent of tax cuts with spending limits. Bush, on the other hand didn't put spending limits in his bill (the primary reason McCain voted no). You see a pattern here? Bush implements his ideas in a wreckless and arrogant manner. This is why he will probably go down as one of the worst presidents in our nations history. McCain has been a proponent of implementing things with safeguards and reason. I will agree that Bush's endorsement could hurt McCain in the general election. I cringed when that happened.
Had McCain been elected President in 2000, I don't think we ever would have invaded Iraq. Decisions to go to war for no good reason are generally made by chickenhawks. McCain is clearly not a chickenhawk. As for taxes, when you are borrowing $ at record levels, I don't think decreasing tax revenues is the way to go. An unbelievably irresponsible "borrow and spend" fiscal policy will be part of the legacy of Bush's status as one of the worst presidents in history. McCain is without question more fiscally responsible than Bush (who isn't?). However, until we end our involvement in Iraq, more "borrow and spend" is inevitable.
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McCain's screw up on this has nothing to do with "linking" him to anything. He said something erroneous on an issue that he says is his strength. It is as simple as that. He may very well be linked to some of the right wing nut job evangelists who have endorsed him later in the campaign, but that has nothing to do with this issue. You are right about one thing. The Dems are in disarray. The longer their primary contest goes on, the better for McCain. Whether the Dems self destruct enough to give the general election to McCain remains to be seen. He is going to have to wear this extremely unpopular war, the crumbling economy and our growing deficit/economic crisis throughout the general election campaign. He has joined himself at the hip with Bush and he will pay for this. 
