It started on Monday when McCain claimed to radio host Bill Bennett “There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today,”
The lie continued on Tuesday when McCain spewed out on CNN that "General Petraeus goes out there almost every day in an unarmed Humvee." McCain then claimed that those who said it was unsafe for Americans to leave the heavily fortified "Green Zone" were "giving the old line of three months ago."
Journalist Michael Ware, who has worked for both TIME and CNN and has been in Iraq for several years strongly disagrees.
Ware stated in response to McCain's claim that “To suggest that there’s any neighborhood in this city where an American can walk freely is beyond ludicrous. I’d love Sen. McCain to tell me where that neighborhood is and he and I can go for a stroll.”
Ware also stated that “In the hour since Sen. McCain’s said this, I’ve spoken to military sources and there was laughter down the line. I mean, certainly the general travels in a Humvee. There’s multiple Humvee around it, heavily armed.”
Today on MSNBC, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) claimed that he knew the Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough,” and that he was “sorry” for those who voted for the war believing it would be “some kind of an easy task.” “Maybe they didn’t know what they were voting for,” McCain said.
In fact, during the run-up to war in 2002 and 2003, McCain repeatedly described the prospects of war in the rosiest terms, declaring the U.S. would “win easily”:
“Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” [CNN, 9/29/02] “But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
Quote:
A little while ago, NRO's Byron York asked Sen. McCain about John Fund's report that McCain would not appoint judges like Alito because they are too conservative. In the course of the conversation, McCain said these two things: "The ones who were left aside, I continued to fight for. We just ran out of
time and lost an election."
and
Finally, I asked McCain if he had anything else to say. "It's distressing,"
he told me, "on the day before a primary that something like this should
come up, because one, it's distracting, and two, I have done nothing but
support these people."
This is just a flat-out falsehood. One of the "ones who [was] left aside" was Pentagon chief counsel W. James Haynes, and not only did McCain NOT "support" Haynes, but he actively worked along with Lindsay Graham to block Haynes. In doing so, he not only went along with the block, but effectively joined a smear of a good man by putting forth the notion, first, that Haynes supported torture, and second, that Haynes lied about it. Both accusations are false.
Quote:
In tonight’s Fox News GOP presidential forum, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) attempted to argue that if elected president, he will eliminate “wasteful spending.” As evidence, he claimed that he has never asked for an earmark for his state of Arizona:
And I’m proud to tell you, Chris, in 24 years as a member of Congress, I have never asked for nor received a single earmark or pork barrel project for my state and I guarantee you I’ll veto those bills. I’ll ask for the line item veto and I’ll veto them and I’ll make the authors of them famous.
McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.
In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona.
Come on getgrizzy, don't you know only Democrat and liberal politicians lie, spin, tell half truths, flip flop? Only libs and dems act like...you know, politicians. Republicans like McCain are plain and simply mavericks.
Wait a minute.
Unless... you're saying... that McCain is... a liberal.
Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhh.
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". Orwell
Come on getgrizzy, don't you know only Democrat and liberal politicians lie, spin, tell half truths, flip flop? Only libs and dems act like...you know, politicians. Republicans like McCain are plain and simply mavericks.
Wait a minute.
Unless... you're saying... that McCain is... a liberal.
Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhh.
as you can tell, i'm only saying this in response to ronbo's post. i actually think mccain will be a huge improvement over bush. i think he will bring home the troops despite his comments about 50-100 more years in iraq. i think obama would be a huge improvement, too.
i just wish the media would clean up its act. i don't think the rev. wright statements are an issue at all. nor do i think the hagee, parsley associations to mccain are substantial. what is substantial is iraq and the economy.
Come on getgrizzy, don't you know only Democrat and liberal politicians lie, spin, tell half truths, flip flop? Only libs and dems act like...you know, politicians. Republicans like McCain are plain and simply mavericks.
Wait a minute.
Unless... you're saying... that McCain is... a liberal.
Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhh.
as you can tell, i'm only saying this in response to ronbo's post. i actually think mccain will be a huge improvement over bush. i think he will bring home the troops despite his comments about 50-100 more years in iraq. i think obama would be a huge improvement, too.
i just wish the media would clean up its act. i don't think the rev. wright statements are an issue at all. nor do i think the hagee, parsley associations to mccain are substantial. what is substantial is iraq and the economy.
Well said, and to a certain degree, I think McCain has received a free pass.
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". Orwell
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A vote for anyone esle is a wasted vote and means you too are part of the problem- it is going to take something like this (10 or 20 million Americans who give a damn about anything) to wake these basturds up.
Vote 3rd party or write in someone you believe in...not these tohr yahoo's...
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But of course, I repeat myself..."
-Samuel L. Clemens
It started on Monday when McCain claimed to radio host Bill Bennett “There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today,”
The lie continued on Tuesday when McCain spewed out on CNN that "General Petraeus goes out there almost every day in an unarmed Humvee." McCain then claimed that those who said it was unsafe for Americans to leave the heavily fortified "Green Zone" were "giving the old line of three months ago."
Journalist Michael Ware, who has worked for both TIME and CNN and has been in Iraq for several years strongly disagrees.
Ware stated in response to McCain's claim that “To suggest that there’s any neighborhood in this city where an American can walk freely is beyond ludicrous. I’d love Sen. McCain to tell me where that neighborhood is and he and I can go for a stroll.”
Ware also stated that “In the hour since Sen. McCain’s said this, I’ve spoken to military sources and there was laughter down the line. I mean, certainly the general travels in a Humvee. There’s multiple Humvee around it, heavily armed.”
Today on MSNBC, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) claimed that he knew the Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough,” and that he was “sorry” for those who voted for the war believing it would be “some kind of an easy task.” “Maybe they didn’t know what they were voting for,” McCain said.
In fact, during the run-up to war in 2002 and 2003, McCain repeatedly described the prospects of war in the rosiest terms, declaring the U.S. would “win easily”:
“Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” [CNN, 9/29/02] “But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
Quote:
A little while ago, NRO's Byron York asked Sen. McCain about John Fund's report that McCain would not appoint judges like Alito because they are too conservative. In the course of the conversation, McCain said these two things: "The ones who were left aside, I continued to fight for. We just ran out of
time and lost an election."
and
Finally, I asked McCain if he had anything else to say. "It's distressing,"
he told me, "on the day before a primary that something like this should
come up, because one, it's distracting, and two, I have done nothing but
support these people."
This is just a flat-out falsehood. One of the "ones who [was] left aside" was Pentagon chief counsel W. James Haynes, and not only did McCain NOT "support" Haynes, but he actively worked along with Lindsay Graham to block Haynes. In doing so, he not only went along with the block, but effectively joined a smear of a good man by putting forth the notion, first, that Haynes supported torture, and second, that Haynes lied about it. Both accusations are false.
Quote:
In tonight’s Fox News GOP presidential forum, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) attempted to argue that if elected president, he will eliminate “wasteful spending.” As evidence, he claimed that he has never asked for an earmark for his state of Arizona:
And I’m proud to tell you, Chris, in 24 years as a member of Congress, I have never asked for nor received a single earmark or pork barrel project for my state and I guarantee you I’ll veto those bills. I’ll ask for the line item veto and I’ll veto them and I’ll make the authors of them famous.
McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.
In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona.
Post subject: Re: mccain is a pathological liar, too
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tampa_griz wrote:
getgrizzy wrote:
Quote:
It started on Monday when McCain claimed to radio host Bill Bennett “There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today,”
The lie continued on Tuesday when McCain spewed out on CNN that "General Petraeus goes out there almost every day in an unarmed Humvee." McCain then claimed that those who said it was unsafe for Americans to leave the heavily fortified "Green Zone" were "giving the old line of three months ago."
Journalist Michael Ware, who has worked for both TIME and CNN and has been in Iraq for several years strongly disagrees.
Ware stated in response to McCain's claim that “To suggest that there’s any neighborhood in this city where an American can walk freely is beyond ludicrous. I’d love Sen. McCain to tell me where that neighborhood is and he and I can go for a stroll.”
Ware also stated that “In the hour since Sen. McCain’s said this, I’ve spoken to military sources and there was laughter down the line. I mean, certainly the general travels in a Humvee. There’s multiple Humvee around it, heavily armed.”
Today on MSNBC, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) claimed that he knew the Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough,” and that he was “sorry” for those who voted for the war believing it would be “some kind of an easy task.” “Maybe they didn’t know what they were voting for,” McCain said.
In fact, during the run-up to war in 2002 and 2003, McCain repeatedly described the prospects of war in the rosiest terms, declaring the U.S. would “win easily”:
“Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” [CNN, 9/29/02] “But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
Quote:
A little while ago, NRO's Byron York asked Sen. McCain about John Fund's report that McCain would not appoint judges like Alito because they are too conservative. In the course of the conversation, McCain said these two things: "The ones who were left aside, I continued to fight for. We just ran out of
time and lost an election."
and
Finally, I asked McCain if he had anything else to say. "It's distressing,"
he told me, "on the day before a primary that something like this should
come up, because one, it's distracting, and two, I have done nothing but
support these people."
This is just a flat-out falsehood. One of the "ones who [was] left aside" was Pentagon chief counsel W. James Haynes, and not only did McCain NOT "support" Haynes, but he actively worked along with Lindsay Graham to block Haynes. In doing so, he not only went along with the block, but effectively joined a smear of a good man by putting forth the notion, first, that Haynes supported torture, and second, that Haynes lied about it. Both accusations are false.
Quote:
In tonight’s Fox News GOP presidential forum, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) attempted to argue that if elected president, he will eliminate “wasteful spending.” As evidence, he claimed that he has never asked for an earmark for his state of Arizona:
And I’m proud to tell you, Chris, in 24 years as a member of Congress, I have never asked for nor received a single earmark or pork barrel project for my state and I guarantee you I’ll veto those bills. I’ll ask for the line item veto and I’ll veto them and I’ll make the authors of them famous.
McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.
In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona.
That was stupid.
only because you haven't been following all this. this is an imatation of ronbo's thread on obama, which really was stupid. i'm just mimicking stupidness, which is pretty stupid, too. just not as stupid maybe.
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