Wow.

Rev. Wright is the gift that keeps on giving. Obama's spiritual advisor is reaffirming his belief that AIDS is white-man invention against black people. The man Obama found fit to finally donate a sizeable amount of money to reaffirmed his belief that America is an imperialst nation. The man Obama supports believes the Marines crucified Jesus is asking why Obama has all-of-a-sudden denounced him? Helluva good question Sen. Obama. What part of Rev. Wright's beliefs that you have devoted you and your children to do you disagree with?

I know! I know! We'll talk about how Sen. McCain's speech at Liberty U is just as dangerous. Right?

Why did he all of a sudden distance himself from him? I thought he could "no more disown him than he could disown the black community or his own grandmother". Rev. Wright made no new comments over the last couple days' speeches either, he was only reiterating his hateful rants.

tampa_griz wrote:Wow.

Rev. Wright is the gift that keeps on giving. Obama's spiritual advisor is reaffirming his belief that AIDS is white-man invention against black people. The man Obama found fit to finally donate a sizeable amount of money to reaffirmed his belief that America is an imperialst nation. The man Obama supports believes the Marines crucified Jesus is asking why Obama has all-of-a-sudden denounced him? Helluva good question Sen. Obama. What part of Rev. Wright's beliefs that you have devoted you and your children to do you disagree with?

I know! I know! We'll talk about how Sen. McCain's speech at Liberty U is just as dangerous. Right?

I agree. That makes them about equal now. Especially in your eyes Tampa - oh yee of the religious wacko's are insignificant faith.

It's funny, but Obama admitted in the article that he hadn't vetted his preacher. I'll bet you Hilary has.

kalm wrote:

tampa_griz wrote:Wow.

Rev. Wright is the gift that keeps on giving. Obama's spiritual advisor is reaffirming his belief that AIDS is white-man invention against black people. The man Obama found fit to finally donate a sizeable amount of money to reaffirmed his belief that America is an imperialst nation. The man Obama supports believes the Marines crucified Jesus is asking why Obama has all-of-a-sudden denounced him? Helluva good question Sen. Obama. What part of Rev. Wright's beliefs that you have devoted you and your children to do you disagree with?

I know! I know! We'll talk about how Sen. McCain's speech at Liberty U is just as dangerous. Right?

I agree. That makes them about equal now. Especially in your eyes Tampa - oh yee of the religious wacko's are insignificant faith.

It's funny, but Obama admitted in the article that he hadn't vetted his preacher. I'll bet you Hilary has.

How does one not vet a preacher? You go to church. You either like what you hear and go back or you don't. You either put money in the collection plate to help feed the man and keep him preaching or you don't.
The media is being seriously duped in this deal. First we were told it was because Wright is from the "black church," If there's two things the white media is afraid to report on because they know nothing about either it's black culture and Christianity.

Ronbo will be thanking God for this.

"Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions”

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Has John McCain had to run from these statements?

How about his more recent spiritual devotee, Rev. John Haggee? Should we dredge up some of his more memorable lines too?

Liberal media my hairy ass.

H

kalm wrote:"Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions”

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Has John McCain had to run from these statements?

How about his more recent spiritual devotee, Rev. John Haggee? Should we dredge up some of his more memorable lines too?

Liberal media my hairy ass.

H

kalm i didn't think you had any hair on your ass

kalm wrote:"Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions”

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Has John McCain had to run from these statements?

How about his more recent spiritual devotee, Rev. John Haggee? Should we dredge up some of his more memorable lines too?

Liberal media my hairy ass.

H

We all know how McCain felt about Falwell.

When McCain spoke at Liberty University liberals told me it could only mean one thing.....that John McCain worships Adolf Hitler. Sorry kalm, but this one's backfiring.....badly.

McCain's relationship with Haggee is barely even that. I don't think he's even been in his church. He certainly didn't marry him and his wife, he didn't give him $25,000 of his money, didn't write a book based on the insipiration the man gives him, etc.

April 30, 2008 --

ALBANY - The Rev. Jeremiah Wright would be happy to see Barack Obama's presidential campaign derailed because the pastor is fuming that his former congregant has "betrayed" their 20-year relationship.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04302008/ne ... htm?page=1

Nearly a third of Clinton supporters — 32 percent — say they would vote for McCain instead of Obama (47 percent) if the general election were held today. Fewer Obama supporters — 21 percent — would defect and vote for McCain over Clinton if she were the nominee.

FOX News Poll: Obama’s Favorable Rating Drops
FOXNews ^ | April 30, 2008 | Dana Blanton

tampa_griz wrote:

kalm wrote:"Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions”

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Has John McCain had to run from these statements?

How about his more recent spiritual devotee, Rev. John Haggee? Should we dredge up some of his more memorable lines too?

Liberal media my hairy ass.

H

We all know how McCain felt about Falwell.

When McCain spoke at Liberty University liberals told me it could only mean one thing.....that John McCain worships Adolf Hitler. Sorry kalm, but this one's backfiring.....badly.

McCain's relationship with Haggee is barely even that. I don't think he's even been in his church. He certainly didn't marry him and his wife, he didn't give him $25,000 of his money, didn't write a book based on the insipiration the man gives him, etc.

Falwell, Haggee, and Wright are all wing-nuts, although Wright's cynicism appears to in some part be derived from racial strife and dissappointment in a country he apparently loved enough to fight for in Viet Nam.

So tell me what's worse. Pandering to a wing-nut preacher for your own salvation, or pandering to wing-nut preacher(s) to win votes from wing-nut people you disagree with?

Slutty [/b]

Bronco wrote:Nearly a third of Clinton supporters — 32 percent — say they would vote for McCain instead of Obama (47 percent) if the general election were held today. Fewer Obama supporters — 21 percent — would defect and vote for McCain over Clinton if she were the nominee.

FOX News Poll: Obama’s Favorable Rating Drops
FOXNews ^ | April 30, 2008 | Dana Blanton

I'm pretty sure the numbers of Republicans making those claims was even higher regarding McCain ... but then they accepted that their guy lost, and started supporting the GOP candidate like good little party people like everyone knew they would.

Once the Democrats decide on a nominee, virtually every Democrat will end up voting for them ... that's just the way it works.

I'd say that's true if B.H.O gets the Nod but blacks will be pissed if Hill gets the nomination.

Bay Area Cat wrote:

Bronco wrote:Nearly a third of Clinton supporters — 32 percent — say they would vote for McCain instead of Obama (47 percent) if the general election were held today. Fewer Obama supporters — 21 percent — would defect and vote for McCain over Clinton if she were the nominee.

FOX News Poll: Obama’s Favorable Rating Drops
FOXNews ^ | April 30, 2008 | Dana Blanton

I'm pretty sure the numbers of Republicans making those claims was even higher regarding McCain ... but then they accepted that their guy lost, and started supporting the GOP candidate like good little party people like everyone knew they would.

Once the Democrats decide on a nominee, virtually every Democrat will end up voting for them ... that's just the way it works.

I dont know. I am plenty pissed that either Gulini or Romney did not get the nomination. I dont know if i will be voting republican

Bronco wrote:I'd say that's true if B.H.O gets the Nod but blacks will be pissed if Hill gets the nomination.

There's probably some validity to that assumption ... especially if Hillary gets the nomination while losing the popular and pledged delegate vote.

But I still think the odds of that are pretty slim, as they well should be (given the current vote and delegate counts).

Bay Area Cat wrote:

Bronco wrote:I'd say that's true if B.H.O gets the Nod but blacks will be pissed if Hill gets the nomination.

There's probably some validity to that assumption ... especially if Hillary gets the nomination while losing the popular and pledged delegate vote.

But I still think the odds of that are pretty slim, as they well should be (given the current vote and delegate counts).

But Hillary won Florida by a large margin. What if the Democrats decide to disenfranchise those voters and violate their voting rights? What then?

Wasn't there something new from Wright from the National Press Conference to the effect that if Obama became president that he would be just as bad as all the other politicos and a disgrace to the blacks?? Just something I thought I heard.... along with all those "other voices"!!

tampa_griz wrote:

Bay Area Cat wrote:

Bronco wrote:I'd say that's true if B.H.O gets the Nod but blacks will be pissed if Hill gets the nomination.

There's probably some validity to that assumption ... especially if Hillary gets the nomination while losing the popular and pledged delegate vote.

But I still think the odds of that are pretty slim, as they well should be (given the current vote and delegate counts).

But Hillary won Florida by a large margin. What if the Democrats decide to disenfranchise those voters and violate their voting rights? What then?

There wasn't a real election in either Florida or Michigan (as per the rules everyone agreed to before it all began, and evidenced by the fact that Obama didn't campaign in Florida and wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan). Until there is a real election in those states, those states are irrelevent. Her argument is really lame on that front (but not at all surprising).

Bay Area Cat wrote:

tampa_griz wrote:

Bay Area Cat wrote:

Bronco wrote:I'd say that's true if B.H.O gets the Nod but blacks will be pissed if Hill gets the nomination.

There's probably some validity to that assumption ... especially if Hillary gets the nomination while losing the popular and pledged delegate vote.

But I still think the odds of that are pretty slim, as they well should be (given the current vote and delegate counts).

But Hillary won Florida by a large margin. What if the Democrats decide to disenfranchise those voters and violate their voting rights? What then?

There wasn't a real election in either Florida or Michigan (as per the rules everyone agreed to before it all began, and evidenced by the fact that Obama didn't campaign in Florida and wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan). Until there is a real election in those states, those states are irrelevent. Her argument is really lame on that front (but not at all surprising).

I am amazed people still talk about HC winning those states. It is fairly obvious she was counting on everyone but herself to stay out of them. As BAC said, not a surprise.