Now would be a great time for my party to reach out to Hispanics...Aprenderé español si usted vota para McCain
My of a GOP gameplan:
-Get as much $$,$$$,$$$ now as you can
-Reach out to Hispanics (English as official language is no longer a policy we can afford to pursue)
-Pick a VP whose younger, smarter and better looking than me (shouldn't be that hard ) or get one of the C's (Condi or Colin) and that's by no mean suggesting they should be a 2nd option
Keep on closing NC!, I might just come outta' this thread with the W
Now would be a great time for my party to reach out to Hispanics...Aprenderé español si usted vota para McCain
My of a GOP gameplan:
-Get as much $$,$$$,$$$ now as you can
-Reach out to Hispanics (English as official language is no longer a policy we can afford to pursue)
-Pick a VP whose younger, smarter and better looking than me (shouldn't be that hard ) or get one of the C's (Condi or Colin) and that's by no mean suggesting they should be a 2nd option
Keep on closing NC!, I might just come outta' this thread with the W
McCain must read Egriz, he opened a Spanish website today.
Interesting results tonight, Barack's huge win in NC is a big step to the nomination, and with Lake County, the 2nd largest county in Indiana yet to report, Hill's lead could get even more slim. I pulled up that county, it's a suburb of Chicago, and has almost 500,000 people living in it. Say if just 80,000 get out and vote, and Barack gets the vote 50,000 to 30,000 - picking up another 20,000 that will put Hill's win at just 25,000 - 30,000 votes total. A 51 to 49 win for her.
If thats the case, chalk today up as a loss for Hillary. Barack wins the amount of delegates by 15 total over the two states.
Clinton's Indiana margin is down to 20K with a big part of Lake County still uncounted. I suspect Hillary will hang on and win by a few thousand votes. Obama will win by over 220K votes in NC. That, was a blow out. Really a bad night for Clinton.
Monroe County also boosted Barack. This could get interesting to see what that remaining 45% in the Lake County area could do to narrow this margin.
According to CNN's tracker it's a 16,000 vote margin for Hill right now. I did a google news search and it mentioned that of the 188,000 people that voted in the 2004 election 61% voted democrat (about 115,000). Currently the amount of votes in for that county are 71,900 - so if the trend holds true there could be another 45,000 - 50,000 still out there, could lead to a split in the state. If so I wonder if Hill will resign.
Monroe County also boosted Barack. This could get interesting to see what that remaining 45% in the Lake County area could do to narrow this margin.
According to CNN's tracker it's a 16,000 vote margin for Hill right now. I did a google news search and it mentioned that of the 188,000 people that voted in the 2004 election 61% voted democrat (about 115,000). Currently the amount of votes in for that county are 71,900 - so if the trend holds true there could be another 45,000 - 50,000 still out there, could lead to a split in the state. If so I wonder if Hill will resign.
I wish she would resign, but I suspect she will remain in the Senate. Just messing with you Re/Max. I am sure you meant will she drop out. I wouldn't expect her too unless she is really getting a lot of pressure from the DNC.
So, Hillary wins narrowly, in a state where most were saying anywhere from a 4-8 point win, meanwhile Barack stomps her in NC. A 13 point delegate gain for Barack.
I read in a blog online that her speech tonight was interesting, she seemed a little somber, both Bill & Chelsea looked pretty defeated. Meanwhile I did see Barack's when I was working out, it was in captions (sound was off) but he seemed to be talking more about the general election and things beyond the primary, as if tonight was the statement that he's the eventual winner.
The results are kind of eerie in Indiana, aren't they? This really is a race in which race is a HUGE factor.
Hillary kicks butt in southern Indiana (the birthplace of the modern KKK) and Obama kicks butt in any place with a large black population.
Obama also takes the college towns.
It really is kind of sad that issues are seemingly not of much importance in this race and that it is seemingly more of a demographics contest.
May the general election be more substantive ... please!
I am not really surprised to be honest. If BO is the Dem nominee (unless HC pulls a rabbit from the hat) I think you will see many voters pull the lever for McCain from behind the curtain. On the other hand, do the young voters backing BO really know much about the man, or are they just excited because he is a skilled orator?
Do the young voters backing BO really know much about the man, or are they just excited because he is a skilled orator?
I'm not going to suggest that every young (18-25) BO supporter is that shallow but I think we all know he's got quite the following of naive, pop culture-minded fans;
This song is the current rave on FB for Obama fans (It is pretty catchy but the celebrity commentary drives me f*&!#ing nuts);
The really ignorant ones seem to think he's the first politician since Lincoln who can presidentially orate...There's a million ways to spin this so here's mine;
in other words, who needs actions when you've got words?
that obama video thing creeped me out. his demagogue b.s. is obviously doing what it was meant to do. the funny thing is that if you listen to his main "advisers", they are just as creepy, but in the other direction - they talk of a tightly controlled campaign strategy that allows for no dissension within the ranks. you've got to buy into everything the guy is told to say, or you are out. meanwhile, the message they inundate us with is that "we" can change things, and that everybody has a voice.
these apparent contradictions, combined with obama's lack of command of the particulars of many issues, makes me worried about what will happen under obama the president. a lot of leaders have "rallied nations" towards one cause or the other by rendering people brain dead through clever propaganda. some of those causes have been misguided, and ultimately destructive.
obviously, i'm doing some generalizing and speculating here. but still.
Merely being strong at inspiration doesn't mean one is weak on the specifics ... it's just a matter of which is the emphasis of a particular speech.
I've seen both Hillary and Obama discuss the details of their plans and policies in great detail. I don't see either of them being lacking in that skill.
And with a little luck, both Obama and McCain will do a deep dive on their policy differences (as, unlike Hillary and Obama, they actually will have a lot of policy differences) so we can all make up our minds as to who will be the better President.
yes, i've read through those statements before, and they are all very nice. obama will do this, obama will do that.
for instance, the site says "Reward Teachers: Obama will promote new and innovative ways to increase teacher pay that are developed with teachers, not imposed on them. Districts will be able to design programs that reward accomplished educators who serve as a mentor to new teachers with a salary increase. Districts can reward teachers who work in underserved places like rural areas and inner cities. And if teachers consistently excel in the classroom, that work can be valued and rewarded as well."
maybe i should be a politician. "Reward frequent egriz postings: Argh! will promote new and innovative ways to increase the praise for egriz posters who come up with clever posts, rather than oppressing them by calling their unique thoughts as "stupid". Egriz will be able to design programs to reward accomplished posters, who can serve as mentors to new posters. This will be done by providing increased editing privileges to these posters, who will be picked by Argh!'s lackeys (ci-tay, grizlacker). Argh! will also make sure that posters who blather from the high line, the rez, and east missoula will be rewarded for posting from these places. Also, if these posters excel in their postings from the workplace, that will be valued and rewarded as well". Please ignore the fact that Argh! would need to consult with the owners of egriz on these policies, and that many of the judgments he proposes to be made regarding egriz posters will by virtue of that pesky thing called "reality" be subjective, and one man's "good poster" is another man's "greenie".
in other words, do you have a link to something less oblique?
actually, by proposing that those chosen as 'mentor posters' be given extra editing time, i think i just went beyond obama in terms of advocating a solution based in reality.
yes, i've read through those statements before, and they are all very nice. obama will do this, obama will do that.
for instance, the site says "Reward Teachers: Obama will promote new and innovative ways to increase teacher pay that are developed with teachers, not imposed on them. Districts will be able to design programs that reward accomplished educators who serve as a mentor to new teachers with a salary increase. Districts can reward teachers who work in underserved places like rural areas and inner cities. And if teachers consistently excel in the classroom, that work can be valued and rewarded as well."
maybe i should be a politician. "Reward frequent egriz postings: Argh! will promote new and innovative ways to increase the praise for egriz posters who come up with clever posts, rather than oppressing them by calling their unique thoughts as "stupid". Egriz will be able to design programs to reward accomplished posters, who can serve as mentors to new posters. This will be done by providing increased editing privileges to these posters, who will be picked by Argh!'s lackeys (ci-tay, grizlacker). Argh! will also make sure that posters who blather from the high line, the rez, and east missoula will be rewarded for posting from these places. Also, if these posters excel in their postings from the workplace, that will be valued and rewarded as well". Please ignore the fact that Argh! would need to consult with the owners of egriz on these policies, and that many of the judgments he proposes to be made regarding egriz posters will by virtue of that pesky thing called "reality" be subjective, and one man's "good poster" is another man's "greenie".
in other words, do you have a link to something less oblique?
Are you suggesting that Hillary's proposals are any less oblique that Obama's?
Or are you simply noting that all of the candidates have a lot of vague statements in their policy proposals?
and you bitch about people reading their own biases into your posts?
but, if you must ask, from what i've read and see it is my opinion that clinton can extemporaneously speak about the facts behind issues much better than obama. considering his considerable advantage in delivering "powerful" extemporaneous speech, that doesn't sit well with me.
Are you suggesting that Hillary's proposals are any less oblique that Obama's?
Or are you simply noting that all of the candidates have a lot of vague statements in their policy proposals?
and you bitch about people reading their own biases into your posts?
but, if you must ask, from what i've read and see it is my opinion that clinton can extemporaneously speak about the facts behind issues much better than obama. considering his considerable advantage in delivering "powerful" extemporaneous speech, that doesn't sit well with me.
As much as I cannot stand HC. I have to agree with argh (and I am not even on lackey payroll yet)
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