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  Tue May 06, 2008 10:30 pm  
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5/8 - W. Virgina - 28 Delegates
5/20 - Kentucky - 51 Delegates
5/20 - Oregon - 52 Delegates
6/1 - Puerto Rico - 55 Delegates (really? That's what I'm reading.)
6/3 - Montana - 16 Delegates
6/3 - South Dakota - 15 Delegates

So, if Hillary doesn't drop out this week, if she can't win on 5/20 she might as well then. Honestly, outside of W. Virginia I don't see her winning any of these other states.

On CNN's delegate tracker Obama can actually win the nomination with 2032 delegates if they split every state from here on out. He can even get it if Hillary wins every state by a 52-48 margin.
 
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  Tue May 06, 2008 10:39 pm  
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Re/MaxGriz wrote:
5/8 - W. Virgina - 28 Delegates
5/20 - Kentucky - 51 Delegates
5/20 - Oregon - 52 Delegates
6/1 - Puerto Rico - 55 Delegates (really? That's what I'm reading.)
6/3 - Montana - 16 Delegates
6/3 - South Dakota - 15 Delegates

So, if Hillary doesn't drop out this week, if she can't win on 5/20 she might as well then. Honestly, outside of W. Virginia I don't see her winning any of these other states.

On CNN's delegate tracker Obama can actually win the nomination with 2032 delegates if they split every state from here on out. He can even get it if Hillary wins every state by a 52-48 margin.


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  Wed May 07, 2008 12:42 am  
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Hillary's primary run reminds me of a typical bobcat season:

.It's starts off with a big bang (Michigan/Florida & Super delegates)

..People then start taking notice when she seems to be on a level playing field with the top-tier BSC teams (Super Tuesday)

...Soon there after, there's a monumental collapse (0 fer 11)

....Then, slowly but surely, she crawls her way somewhat back into title contention (Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania)

.....But as usual, when it comes down to it, the Cats (oops, I mean Hillary) run into a giant wall, known in some circles as Griz Nation and in others as OBAMMMA! and finish the season having gotten royally trounced but still b$%!#ing (IN, NC & 07', 06', 04', 01',00',99', 98'...ok I'm tired of counting...you get the picture)

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  Wed May 07, 2008 8:10 am  
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Hilary has to be a bit humbled by now. I know she is going to stay in the race... I just wonder if she is still going to keep at it with her kitchen sink strategy.

I would guess that she would tone things down a bit. But nothing would surprise me with the way things are going.
 
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  Wed May 07, 2008 10:25 am  
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Her $6.4 million personal loan and vow to stay in the race is going to disenfranchise her with more and more democrats. I'm personally fed up with it - she's keeping the party split.
 
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  Wed May 07, 2008 10:33 am  
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The next set of polls should be interesting ... and if the superdelegates continue to move to Obama (which could pick up in the coming days), maybe she will have to swallow her pride and drop out.

Unless she really thinks that the rules they agreed to at the beginning of the process should be reversed (and that she should be granted votes from a Michigan election in which she was the only one whose name was on the ballot), she's virtually mathematically out of it right now.

Maybe she's hoping that Obama will hijack a school bus full of kids while declaring his devotion to Satan in the next week?

If I was a party loyalist, I would be really annoyed with her now.

Personally, I'm looking forward to McCain and Obama debating issues so I can figure out who to vote for. I think either guy could be a good choice, but we're still bogged down in the Democrat mud-slinging.

But, democracy is sometimes a messy process ... and that's fine.
 
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I can't remember where right now, but I've actually read a few editorials in the past few weeks theorizing that Hillary may stay in the race, not necessarily to win the nomination, but to try to damage Obama badly enough that he'll lose the general election, thus leaving her clear for another run in 2012. Does anyone think there may be any validity to that theory?
 
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  Wed May 07, 2008 10:46 am  
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Grizlaw wrote:
I can't remember where right now, but I've actually read a few editorials in the past few weeks theorizing that Hillary may stay in the race, not necessarily to win the nomination, but to try to damage Obama badly enough that he'll lose the general election, thus leaving her clear for another run in 2012. Does anyone think there may be any validity to that theory?


It seems like that would be really hard to pull off ... all it would take is one disgruntled staffer to float that assertion publicly (I heard Hillary say ...) and her popularity in the party would hit Nader-like levels.

It's possible, but it seems kind of crazy.

I would be more inclined to think that the people writing the editorials were trying to paint her in a bad light.

But if there was any truth to it, she would have to be one of the worst pols to ever walk the earth.

So put me in the skeptic column for that theory.
 
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Grizlaw wrote:
I can't remember where right now, but I've actually read a few editorials in the past few weeks theorizing that Hillary may stay in the race, not necessarily to win the nomination, but to try to damage Obama badly enough that he'll lose the general election, thus leaving her clear for another run in 2012. Does anyone think there may be any validity to that theory?


Sounds like Clinonista talk, and no, nothing would surprise me. Maybe she will just go back into the ftures market.... #tounge
 


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