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Postby Re/MaxGriz on Fri May 30, 2008 1:37 pm

Here's the press release, straight from Paul Ryan, you'll most likely find this in papers tomorrow:

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May 30, 2008

May 30, 2008, University of Montana Offensive Lineman James David (J.D.) Quinn appeared in Municipal Court in Missoula, Montana. He appeared on charges related from two separate incidents that occurred in Missoula, Montana in the past year.

Today in Court, Mr. Quinn appeared on the first charge that was issued to him on July 22, 2007. On July 22, 2007, Mr. Quinn was arrested on suspicion of Driving Under the Influence of Alcohol (DUI). Today in Court, the City of Missoula, through the Missoula City Deputy Attorney, Andrew Scott, amended the DUI charge to a DUI Per Se charge. After the charge was amended, Mr. Quinn entered a guilty plea to that charge admitting that he was operating a motor vehicle while his blood alcohol level exceeded the legal limit of of .08 under Montana law. The Court sentenced Mr. Quinn to 10 days in jail and then suspended all of the jail time. He was fined and ordered to complete an alcohol program. He was further ordered to complete community service by speaking to the students of each Missoula County Public High School about the dangers of drinking and driving. This was Mr. Quinn’s first lifetime DUI conviction.

Also today in Court, Mr. Quinn appeared on a second set of charges that were issued to him on May 22, 2008. On May 22, 2008, Mr. Quinn was arrested on suspicion of DUI, Improper Lane Change and Failure to have Mud Flaps equipped on his vehicle. On Friday May 30, 2008, Missoula City Deputy Attorney, Andrew Scott dismissed the DUI charge. Mr. Quinn then entered No Contest pleas to the charge of Improper Lane Change and the Mud Flap violation. He was fined by the Court on these charges.

While this was a difficult day for J.D. Quinn, he is committed to focusing his efforts on making positive changes in his life. He accepts responsibility for his actions and will abide by the conditions of the Court’s sentence. He is hopeful that he is given the opportunity to prove himself and commits himself to abiding by the rules as any other citizen of this community would. He does not condone drinking alcohol and driving, and he looks forward to sharing his experiences with the high school students of this community. He is hopeful that his efforts will help educate the teenagers of Missoula and help prevent further incidents of drinking and driving in this community.

J.D. Quinn will focus his efforts on abstaining from using alcohol, alcohol counseling and preparing for the upcoming school year and football season. He apologizes to the University of Montana, President George Dennison, Athletic Director Jim O’Day, Coach Bobby Hauck and his coaches, his teammates, family, friends, and the community for any embarrassment that these incidents have caused. He recognizes that it is a privilege to be a scholarship athlete at the University of Montana and he is committed to living up to the standards that are expected of him.

PAUL RYAN & ASSOCIATES, PLLC
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Fri May 30, 2008 1:41 pm

Plea bargain.

Cool. Now we can all move on. I was encouraged by the sentiment about accepting responsbility and using his position to speak to high schoolers. That is a very positive and worthwhile step.

This is a silver lining, and I hope his story does influence some younger people in a positive way.
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Postby hokeyfine on Fri May 30, 2008 1:44 pm

that was pretty good lawyer speak...yawnnnnn!
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Postby hokeyfine on Fri May 30, 2008 1:46 pm

sounds like Quinn just found Jesus!!!
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Postby Re/MaxGriz on Fri May 30, 2008 1:48 pm

Just like BAC said, good things will come of this with his community service, and we can put the speculation behind us.
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Postby mtgrizrule on Fri May 30, 2008 1:52 pm

I think the judge handled this accordingly. It does look as if the judge sided more with JD's side on the latest incident. I am sure JD is thankful for due process and the judge was more openminded and candid than a few accusers on EGRIZ.

With this now behind us. I hope and pray JD has learned his lesson, stays clean, kicks ass in football, graduates, and lives the NFL Dream.

As for EGRIZ we have gone round and round on this subject. I am sure JD would be appreciative to the ones supporting him in this. I also hope he learned how important it is to keep it clean and how impactful public perception can be. God knows a few were ready to hang him due to perception.

JD please stay clean here. You have been given a huge break for the better, now take advantage of it to the fullest. Chances are likely, you will never again be granted another break in life like this turned out. IF and when you make the NFL I hope you are thankful to this judge for ruling the way he did.
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Postby ursusmissoulus on Fri May 30, 2008 1:56 pm

5.....GB1, are you taking the over or under. I'll go with the over. 100 egriz $'s.
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Postby Grizbacker1 on Fri May 30, 2008 1:59 pm

mtgrizrule wrote:I think the judge handled this accordingly. It does look as if the judge sided more with JD's side on the latest incident. I am sure JD is thankful for due process and the judge was more openminded and candid than a few accusers on EGRIZ.

With this now behind us. I hope and pray JD has learned his lesson, stays clean, kicks ass in football, graduates, and lives the NFL Dream.

As for EGRIZ we have gone round and round on this subject. I am sure JD would be appreciative to the ones supporting him in this. I also hope he learned how important it is to keep it clean and how impactful public perception can be. God knows a few were ready to hang him due to perception.

JD please stay clean here. You have been given a huge break for the better, now take advantage of it to the fullest. Chances are likely, you will never again be granted another break in life like this turned out. IF and when you make the NFL I hope you are thankful to this judge for ruling the way he did.


The judge dismissed the 2nd DUI at the recommendation of the Co Attorney's office. The reason they dismissed it was because he never should have been cited for it. In other words, the cop made an error based on assumptions. Quinn was a DD that night and the alcohol the officer smelled was from the 3 passengers who were drinking. Did Quinn screw up not just taking the breathalyzer? Possibly, but he was following advice of his attorney. Now, let's hope he doesn't even think about jaywalking going forward. :twocents:
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Postby Grisly Fan on Fri May 30, 2008 2:04 pm

So what then does Hauck do? (That should be good for another 35 pages, no?)

PS - I wished him luck and it looks like get got some.
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Fri May 30, 2008 2:06 pm

Grizbacker1 wrote:The reason they dismissed it was because he never should have been cited for it. In other words, the cop made an error based on assumptions.


Where are you getting this information?
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Postby putter on Fri May 30, 2008 2:07 pm

Grisly Fan wrote:So what then does Hauck do?


I don't think he will suspend him for illegal lane change and missing mudflap.
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Fri May 30, 2008 2:07 pm

Grisly Fan wrote:So what then does Hauck do?


I suspect he will probably get a suspension for another couple games. That's just based on what Hauck has done in the past.
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Postby ursusmissoulus on Fri May 30, 2008 2:11 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
Grisly Fan wrote:So what then does Hauck do?


I suspect he will probably get a suspension for another couple games. That's just based on what Hauck has done in the past.


Habeus corpus? I thought he was already suspended for that.

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Postby Grizbacker1 on Fri May 30, 2008 2:13 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
Grizbacker1 wrote:The reason they dismissed it was because he never should have been cited for it. In other words, the cop made an error based on assumptions.


Where are you getting this information?


If I told you then I doubt I would get any further info, leave it at that. Question it all you want, but I challenge you to find a post of mine where I posted something inaccurate, expect the spoof i did on Ben Olson coming to UM and the Griz scheduling USC.
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Postby TheBud on Fri May 30, 2008 2:16 pm

Grizbacker1 wrote:...except the spoof i did on Ben Olson coming to UM and the Griz scheduling USC.


Crap! That wasn't true? Damn. I took you at your word...


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Postby Mslacat on Fri May 30, 2008 2:41 pm

NO NO NO

He was further ordered to complete community service by speaking to the students of each Missoula County Public High School about the dangers of drinking and driving.


Keep him the heck away from my kids!! He is what 10 days away from being pulled over for DUI (whether it was plead out or not) and now they think he is a good candidate to come and talk to my kids about the evils of alcohol! I THINK NOT. I do not care if he is JD Quinn all American candidate, my next door neighbor or Micheal Ray Richardson, alcohol and drugs are not some thing a person can turn on and off, like a light switch. Oh I am cured, all I have to do now is go tell every body I am cured! How many of you people have had a relative or loved one who has had a problem with drug and alcohol? How many times did it take before the finally got sober, if they got sober. Let him go clean toilets for community service, do not put him in front of young kids as an example of a role model for alcohol use. It just sends the wrong message to our kids, what if he falls off the wagon the day after he appears. Getting sober is hard hard hard work, it should not be minimized. Let him come back in five or so years and talk to high schoolers, once he has proven himself to truly be a role model on the subject.

Sorry guy's but the above post has far less to do with Mr. Quinn that a ridiculous concept of us putting up former users as role models / speaker before they are ready.

BTW I hear next week the high schools will be bring in a guy who was convicted last month of statutory rape to discuss abstinence.
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Postby Bay Area Cat on Fri May 30, 2008 2:44 pm

Grizbacker1 wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:
Grizbacker1 wrote:The reason they dismissed it was because he never should have been cited for it. In other words, the cop made an error based on assumptions.


Where are you getting this information?


If I told you then I doubt I would get any further info, leave it at that. Question it all you want, but I challenge you to find a post of mine where I posted something inaccurate, expect the spoof i did on Ben Olson coming to UM and the Griz scheduling USC.


Would the arresting officer and prosecuting attorney agree with that characterization of the facts, or would it likely be only the view of those sympathetic to the defense (and yeah, I know the defense attorney does spend time on egriz himself).

If the most recent DUI was really a complete fabrication/error by the police and had no chance of resulting in a conviction, then why would the defense attorney choose to plead guilty to the first one? Why not get the second one dismissed based on its lack of merit, and then continue to fight the first one, just as they had been doing prior to the second arrest?
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Postby Re/MaxGriz on Fri May 30, 2008 2:47 pm

Mslacat wrote:NO NO NO

He was further ordered to complete community service by speaking to the students of each Missoula County Public High School about the dangers of drinking and driving.


Keep him the heck away from my kids!! He is what 10 days away from being pulled over for DUI (whether it was plead out or not) and now they think he is a good candidate to come and talk to my kids about the evils of alcohol! I THINK NOT. I do not care if he is JD Quinn all American candidate, my next door neighbor or Micheal Ray Richardson, alcohol and drugs are not some thing a person can turn on and off, like a light switch. Oh I am cured, all I have to do now is go tell every body I am cured! How many of you people have had a relative or loved one who has had a problem with drug and alcohol? How many times did it take before the finally got sober, if they got sober. Let him go clean toilets for community service, do not put him in front of young kids as an example of a role model for alcohol use. It just sends the wrong message to our kids, what if he falls off the wagon the day after he appears. Getting sober is hard hard hard work, it should not be minimized. Let him come back in five or so years and talk to high schoolers, once he has proven himself to truly be a role model on the subject.

Sorry guy's but the above post has far less to do with Mr. Quinn that a ridiculous concept of us putting up former users as role models / speaker before they are ready.

BTW I hear next week the high schools will be bring in a guy who was convicted last month of statutory rape to discuss abstinence.


All through high school we'd have motivational speakers come talk about the dangers of addictions, and all of them went through something in their past lives - it makes the point stronger.

Usually in church, the best testimonies are from those who turned their life around.

This isn't as extreme, but I'd think that a high school kid would take to heart what he'll say for many reasons:

- He plays football for the Grizzlies, the local team.
- His issues have been highly publicized.
- He can talk about how much he could have lost (school, football, future).

That will drive points home, and it'll do good.
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Postby TheBud on Fri May 30, 2008 2:51 pm

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Mslacat wrote:NO NO NO

He was further ordered to complete community service by speaking to the students of each Missoula County Public High School about the dangers of drinking and driving.


Keep him the heck away from my kids!! He is what 10 days away from being pulled over for DUI (whether it was plead out or not) and now they think he is a good candidate to come and talk to my kids about the evils of alcohol! I THINK NOT. I do not care if he is JD Quinn all American candidate, my next door neighbor or Micheal Ray Richardson, alcohol and drugs are not some thing a person can turn on and off, like a light switch. Oh I am cured, all I have to do now is go tell every body I am cured! How many of you people have had a relative or loved one who has had a problem with drug and alcohol? How many times did it take before the finally got sober, if they got sober. Let him go clean toilets for community service, do not put him in front of young kids as an example of a role model for alcohol use. It just sends the wrong message to our kids, what if he falls off the wagon the day after he appears. Getting sober is hard hard hard work, it should not be minimized. Let him come back in five or so years and talk to high schoolers, once he has proven himself to truly be a role model on the subject.

Sorry guy's but the above post has far less to do with Mr. Quinn that a ridiculous concept of us putting up former users as role models / speaker before they are ready.

BTW I hear next week the high schools will be bring in a guy who was convicted last month of statutory rape to discuss abstinence.



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Postby getgrizzy on Fri May 30, 2008 3:01 pm

Grisly Fan wrote:So what then does Hauck do?


i think that's been the question all along. dui or no dui. obviously very few really care about quinn the person. it's all about how much time he'll spend on the field. hauck suspended quinn for 3-4 games last year, which i assume was for being 'charged' with a dui. so now he has to act on quinn having been convicted of a dui. it's tough to say. on one hand um football has an image problem, on the other hand quinn is one helluva football player. we all know a 3-4 game suspension only consumes non-conference portion of the schedule.

i wonder if the conference can weigh in on this.
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Postby tampa_griz on Fri May 30, 2008 3:08 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:Would the arresting officer and prosecuting attorney agree with that characterization of the facts, or would it likely be only the view of those sympathetic to the defense (and yeah, I know the defense attorney does spend time on egriz himself).


I wondered if that was the case when I read this:

Paul Ryan, defense attorney for JD Quinn wrote:This was Mr. Quinn’s first lifetime DUI conviction.


Was he talking to us? :)
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Postby getgrizzy on Fri May 30, 2008 3:11 pm

tampa_griz wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:Would the arresting officer and prosecuting attorney agree with that characterization of the facts, or would it likely be only the view of those sympathetic to the defense (and yeah, I know the defense attorney does spend time on egriz himself).


I wondered if that was the case when I read this:

Paul Ryan, defense attorney for JD Quinn wrote:This was Mr. Quinn’s first lifetime DUI conviction.


Was he talking to us? :)


he couldn't have been talking to us, because we'd already figured that out. (first time 'convicted' of a dui). it's still the fourth time he was 'charged' with one. but that's all over with now.

time to wonder what hauck will do. any ideas?
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Postby Grisly Fan on Fri May 30, 2008 3:16 pm

Will an "x" number of games suspension satisfy the "out for blood" contingent? Their argument will be (ignoring the outcome of the hearing) is that he was suspended before and he just went out and did it again so what good did it do? Will it satisfy those who believe the facts came out in court and that JD has already paid the price for the DUI for which he was convicted? Hopefully BH will come up with something that makes neither side happy and then he will have found the sweet spot.

To me the one thing that would have helped ensure we aren't hearing part 3 of the DUI saga sometime again in the near future the road would to suspend JD's license for the duration of the football season. After that at least the coaches wouldn't get dragged into it. Oh well, I guess justice is done...
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Postby Re/MaxGriz on Fri May 30, 2008 3:16 pm

time to wonder what hauck will do. any ideas?


Can't imagine too much, even though Bobby never publicly admitted it there was the couple of games suspension JD served last year, which many of us presumed was in regards to the July '07 DUI.

Other than that you've got two minor traffic violations...
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Postby Grizbacker1 on Fri May 30, 2008 3:19 pm

Mslacat wrote:NO NO NO

He was further ordered to complete community service by speaking to the students of each Missoula County Public High School about the dangers of drinking and driving.


Keep him the heck away from my kids!! He is what 10 days away from being pulled over for DUI (whether it was plead out or not) and now they think he is a good candidate to come and talk to my kids about the evils of alcohol! I THINK NOT. I do not care if he is JD Quinn all American candidate, my next door neighbor or Micheal Ray Richardson, alcohol and drugs are not some thing a person can turn on and off, like a light switch. Oh I am cured, all I have to do now is go tell every body I am cured! How many of you people have had a relative or loved one who has had a problem with drug and alcohol? How many times did it take before the finally got sober, if they got sober. Let him go clean toilets for community service, do not put him in front of young kids as an example of a role model for alcohol use. It just sends the wrong message to our kids, what if he falls off the wagon the day after he appears. Getting sober is hard hard hard work, it should not be minimized. Let him come back in five or so years and talk to high schoolers, once he has proven himself to truly be a role model on the subject.

Sorry guy's but the above post has far less to do with Mr. Quinn that a ridiculous concept of us putting up former users as role models / speaker before they are ready.

BTW I hear next week the high schools will be bring in a guy who was convicted last month of statutory rape to discuss abstinence.


Drama queen candidate or what mslacat? I remember my HS class going to Deer Lodge to listen to what convicted felons had to say. I am shocked none of us are convicts ourselves as a result. Do you think Catholic nuns woul dbe more effective extolling the virtues of not drinking and driving? I mean, all Catholic girls are virgins until they get married right?
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