I hear ya backer. I agree, if it was all strength and conditioning that won or lost games, strength coaches would be getting the 1.5 million dollar deals and such. I didn't think that you were dragging Lacey's name (or anybody for that matter) through the mud. He did a great job ( and the whole Griz program is better for it) and things happen. I just like good debates and sometimes folks put on here things that are just unbelievably off the mark. If you haven't noticed. LOL But I do enjoy the educated points of view on here. Educated meaning football knowledge.

MapleLeafGriz wrote:I hear ya backer. I agree, if it was all strength and conditioning that won or lost games, strength coaches would be getting the 1.5 million dollar deals and such. I didn't think that you were dragging Lacey's name (or anybody for that matter) through the mud. He did a great job ( and the whole Griz program is better for it) and things happen. I just like good debates and sometimes folks put on here things that are just unbelievably off the mark. If you haven't noticed. LOL But I do enjoy the educated points of view on here. Educated meaning football knowledge.

The educated points of view regarding football seem to take a direct hit once the season starts and the Monday Morning armchair QB's get back to posting. It is amazing how great the playcalling is after the play is over. On the other hand, there are some pretty knoweldgeable posters, and not all of them are positive, whihc is fine too.

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Stiletto wrote:Lacey was just fine as a strength coach, he just had issues with some of the drills Bobby likes to run and voiced his opposition to them, so Bobby brought in Gerber. There is one drop shoulder roll drill Lacey hated and thought it prematurely ended Ciche Pitchers career and led to alot of Lance Spencers shoulder problems. We all know it's Bobs way or the highway.

You obviously have only heard one side of the story or forgot. Go back and read all the old threads on Lacey and refresh your memory. He wasn't without issues, despite your hate of BH.

The "ISSUES" were Bobby's pride and hard-headedness. Lacey ran his program and was popular with most the athletes.

I SAW both sides of the story, first hand. Bobby's main emphasis in the weight room has always been: make athletes Stronger. Lacey's philosophy was: make athletes more ATHLETIC...

They butted heads and Lacey was forced out of the position...

Who's philosophy is more successful? The proof is in the pudding...

Philosophy doesn't matter. I doubt anyone on this board has always agreed with everything their Boss told them to do, but they did it, or faced the consequences. Life is just a bitch isn't it. I sure don't see anyone questioning what the new guy is doing, including players.

I think the last 3 comments were people questioning what he was doing. I know just about everyone on the team in 2003 and 2004 were questioning what he was doing. Nobody on the team is questioning it because they don't know anything different...

Nobody was questioning what Lacey was doing except Bobby.

FYI: the football coach is not the strength coaches Boss. Bobby should have listened to Lacey, but now the TEAM is facing the consequences.

That is YOUR opinion, and you are entitled to it. Trust me, if BH wanted to get rid of the new strength coach, he could, and would. BH calls the shots when it comes to the FB team, if you don't like it, don't go.

It is a fact that BH is not the strength coaches boss, not my opinion. However, it is true that Lacey left UM as a direct result of BH.

It is my opinion that UM athletics are worse off for this. That is what I don't like, but I will still go to griz games even if Osama Bin Laden is the head coach