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2015 Class.....Who Will Step Up?

AllWeatherFan said:
NDSU is not afraid to start a true freshman (or redshirt freshman) if he is the best player at his position. I hope we have the same mindset. I'm excited to see both 2015 and 2016 recruits on the field for Montana, and I hope a few of these guys are ready to step up right away.

Just by the numbers, you'd have to believe all the RS Frosh have to be in the mix for positions & first level depth.
 
IntuitiveGriz said:
AZDoc said:
HookedonGriz said:
IntuitiveGriz said:
Define Rooks' legit competition.

Cy will be phenominal for sure. But I am highest on Dante, he had the most heralded LB HS career and was the Grizs' Defensive Scout Team Player of the Year,

I'm not as familiar with AZ classifications, but he played in Division 4 which I'm guessing is pretty competitive. His team won 3 straight state championships, going 14-0 one year. One of his teammates signed at Boise St so some good players there. But I admit I don't know as much about AZ competition.

Class 4 is second highest class..although they have 2 classes of class 5 (at least they did when I lived there a few years ago). Typically class 4 is 1200-2000 students, many in 3 class schools So-Sr. Hamilton high in chandler is class 5 and has something like 3600 in 3 classes, for comparison.

Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to (Define Rooks' legit competition). :thumb:

Their are 6 divisions of football classification in AZ, Rooks played down in level 4.

Div 1
Div 2
Div 3
Div 4
Div 5
Div 6

Rooks' Div 4 high school has 345 students. enrollment: http://www.privateschoolreview.com/yuma-catholic-high-school-profile

The Div 1 state champion has 2,107 students, which is Griz commit Randy Rodriguez school, maxpreps #27 school in the country. enrollment: https://schools.peoriaud.k12.az.us/sites/cehs/Pages/Default.aspx

Legit, big-boy football...a pic of Randy Rodriquez scrolls through... http://www.centennialcoyotesfootball.com/page/show/1723399-home

AZ Classifications and schools: http://www.azpreps365.com/standings/football/d1

Well then! I lived there a few years ago and know they changed them. Was a little lazy on looking up the info. Class 4 was most of the Scottsdale schools, Tempe, Queen Creek, Prescott, Flagstaff when I was there. Some Phoenix Schools as well. Next time, I will look first instead of going on my old first hand info! :lol:
 
I like:
Eick-because his dad is on here
Corbin-because my son's name is Brennan
Crow-because I like Ninjas
Bradshaw-because we got him from Bozeman
 
AZDoc said:
I like:
Eick-because his dad is on here
Corbin-because my son's name is Brennan
Crow-because I like Ninjas
Bradshaw-because we got him from Bozeman

Wrong class. He was referring to last year's recruiting class.
 
GoldStandardGriz said:
Keenan Curran

Ugh, damnit, I should've said that.

It's funny b/c I just associated guys that didn't play last year. Obviously Curran - with the mass wave of departures this guy has a chance to go for 1000+ yards. Had a few impressive catches last season.
 
BWahlberg said:
GoldStandardGriz said:
Keenan Curran

Ugh, damnit, I should've said that.

It's funny b/c I just associated guys that didn't play last year. Obviously Curran - with the mass wave of departures this guy has a chance to go for 1000+ yards. Had a few impressive catches last season.

With him not being listed among the initial group I almost forgot about him as well. I figure he has the best shot, since other than Jeremy Calhoun, he was the only one who actually saw the field last year.
 
BWahlberg said:
Jeremy Calhoun - has already stepped up - should only improve, especially if the O-line can take a step forward.

Of the rest of the group though, guys we didn't see last year, look at the spots of opportunity:

Of the WRs, I'd say Kobey Eaton. I almost thought they weren't going to red shirt him, he had a very strong fall camp. Eaton already has the size the coaches want and good speed and hands. With this off-season hopefully he's added some muscle and familiarity in this system. Daum and Ryan need to show they're healthy, which I assume by spring they will be. Rooks needs to clean up the drops. Calhoun needs to show improvement in the design of the offense.

On the O-line I'd say Dallas Hart. Hart is the lone tackle of this o-line group and the one presumed open job is LT or RT depending on where Reese is placed. The interior O-line has seniors Todd, Dietrich, & Weyer and junior Luke... there's a log-jam there for 2016.

For safety I've got to think that both Josh Sandry and Jerrin Williams are going to be needed - ready or not. We've got Yamen Sanders and Mick Delaney and then walk-ons Epperly and Timmons. I think both safeties could get a chance to start or rotate in a bunch.

I'd expect Jeremy Calhoun to be "the man" next year at RB. Wide open opportunity.....
 
AZGrizFan said:
IntuitiveGriz said:
Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to (Define Rooks' legit competition). :thumb:

Their are 6 divisions of football classification in AZ, Rooks played down in level 4.

Div 1
Div 2
Div 3
Div 4
Div 5
Div 6

Rooks' Div 4 high school has 345 students. enrollment: http://www.privateschoolreview.com/yuma-catholic-high-school-profile

The Div 1 state champion has 2,107 students, which is Griz commit Randy Rodriguez school, maxpreps #27 school in the country. enrollment: https://schools.peoriaud.k12.az.us/sites/cehs/Pages/Default.aspx

Legit, big-boy football...a pic of Randy Rodriquez scrolls through... http://www.centennialcoyotesfootball.com/page/show/1723399-home

AZ Classifications and schools: http://www.azpreps365.com/standings/football/d1

All true, IG, but there's a few caveats that should be mentioned.

1) The schools that typically produce the most talent from the state are Division II Chaparral and Division III Saguaro.
2) The private schools (of which Rooks attended) are a whole different animal when comparing attendance...they basically "recruit", which other schools aren't technically allowed to do (although Saguaro and Chaparral have been accused of it many times). they also routinely play "up" in talent, because of the recruiting. Rarely are they as big attendance-wise as the other schools in their division. Yuma Catholic is no exception, so 345 isn't necessarily representative of the size of schools they're playing against.
3) Two of the best schools in the state for football talent are Division IV Lakeside and Show Low.
Mostly true, but the Chandler schools, Hamilton and Chandler, produce more talent top to bottom. Saguaro has been absolutely loaded every year lately, desert ridge, a couple of peoria schools, then Marcos and salpointe. The talent is definitely spreading out more throughout the valley. Yuma had a lot of talent those three years with Rooks' teams.
 
casewinter13 said:
Mostly true, but the Chandler schools, Hamilton and Chandler, produce more talent top to bottom. Saguaro has been absolutely loaded every year lately, desert ridge, a couple of peoria schools, then Marcos and salpointe. The talent is definitely spreading out more throughout the valley. Yuma had a lot of talent those three years with Rooks' teams.

I lived there for 20 years. I dont' recall a year where Saguaro WASN'T loaded :lol: :lol:
 
AZGrizFan said:
casewinter13 said:
Mostly true, but the Chandler schools, Hamilton and Chandler, produce more talent top to bottom. Saguaro has been absolutely loaded every year lately, desert ridge, a couple of peoria schools, then Marcos and salpointe. The talent is definitely spreading out more throughout the valley. Yuma had a lot of talent those three years with Rooks' teams.

I lived there for 20 years. I dont' recall a year where Saguaro WASN'T loaded [emoji38] :lol:
Me either...I'm only 35, but I was attempting to stay hip, relevant and 'in the now' but I'm not sure it's working.
 
AZGrizFan said:
IntuitiveGriz said:
Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to (Define Rooks' legit competition). :thumb:

Their are 6 divisions of football classification in AZ, Rooks played down in level 4.

Div 1
Div 2
Div 3
Div 4
Div 5
Div 6

Rooks' Div 4 high school has 345 students. enrollment: http://www.privateschoolreview.com/yuma-catholic-high-school-profile

The Div 1 state champion has 2,107 students, which is Griz commit Randy Rodriguez school, maxpreps #27 school in the country. enrollment: https://schools.peoriaud.k12.az.us/sites/cehs/Pages/Default.aspx

Legit, big-boy football...a pic of Randy Rodriquez scrolls through... http://www.centennialcoyotesfootball.com/page/show/1723399-home

AZ Classifications and schools: http://www.azpreps365.com/standings/football/d1

All true, IG, but there's a few caveats that should be mentioned.

1) The schools that typically produce the most talent from the state are Division II Chaparral and Division III Saguaro.
2) The private schools (of which Rooks attended) are a whole different animal when comparing attendance...they basically "recruit", which other schools aren't technically allowed to do (although Saguaro and Chaparral have been accused of it many times). they also routinely play "up" in talent, because of the recruiting. Rarely are they as big attendance-wise as the other schools in their division. Yuma Catholic is no exception, so 345 isn't necessarily representative of the size of schools they're playing against.
3) Two of the best schools in the state for football talent are Division IV Lakeside and Show Low.

There isn't a Power Program anywhere that doesn't recruit. Whether or not it's a private school/ public school, they all do it. Or if your program is that good, the "out of area" stud players just move into the particular schools' district....
 
CV Griz Fan said:
AZGrizFan said:
IntuitiveGriz said:
Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to (Define Rooks' legit competition). :thumb:

Their are 6 divisions of football classification in AZ, Rooks played down in level 4.

Div 1
Div 2
Div 3
Div 4
Div 5
Div 6

Rooks' Div 4 high school has 345 students. enrollment: http://www.privateschoolreview.com/yuma-catholic-high-school-profile

The Div 1 state champion has 2,107 students, which is Griz commit Randy Rodriguez school, maxpreps #27 school in the country. enrollment: https://schools.peoriaud.k12.az.us/sites/cehs/Pages/Default.aspx

Legit, big-boy football...a pic of Randy Rodriquez scrolls through... http://www.centennialcoyotesfootball.com/page/show/1723399-home

AZ Classifications and schools: http://www.azpreps365.com/standings/football/d1

All true, IG, but there's a few caveats that should be mentioned.

1) The schools that typically produce the most talent from the state are Division II Chaparral and Division III Saguaro.
2) The private schools (of which Rooks attended) are a whole different animal when comparing attendance...they basically "recruit", which other schools aren't technically allowed to do (although Saguaro and Chaparral have been accused of it many times). they also routinely play "up" in talent, because of the recruiting. Rarely are they as big attendance-wise as the other schools in their division. Yuma Catholic is no exception, so 345 isn't necessarily representative of the size of schools they're playing against.
3) Two of the best schools in the state for football talent are Division IV Lakeside and Show Low.

There isn't a Power Program anywhere that doesn't recruit. Whether or not it's a private school/ public school, they all do it. Or if your program is that good, the "out of area" stud players just move into the particular schools' district....

True, but the private schools have a leg up because, as private schools, they can take kids from all over without having to have them actually move to the district.
 
AZGrizFan said:
casewinter13 said:
Mostly true, but the Chandler schools, Hamilton and Chandler, produce more talent top to bottom. Saguaro has been absolutely loaded every year lately, desert ridge, a couple of peoria schools, then Marcos and salpointe. The talent is definitely spreading out more throughout the valley. Yuma had a lot of talent those three years with Rooks' teams.

I lived there for 20 years. I dont' recall a year where Saguaro WASN'T loaded :lol: :lol:

I spent 20 minutes in Tuba City once. Still feel lucky to have gotten out of there without an asskicking.
 
snap said:
AZGrizFan said:
casewinter13 said:
Mostly true, but the Chandler schools, Hamilton and Chandler, produce more talent top to bottom. Saguaro has been absolutely loaded every year lately, desert ridge, a couple of peoria schools, then Marcos and salpointe. The talent is definitely spreading out more throughout the valley. Yuma had a lot of talent those three years with Rooks' teams.

I lived there for 20 years. I dont' recall a year where Saguaro WASN'T loaded :lol: :lol:

I spent 20 minutes in Tuba City once. Still feel lucky to have gotten out of there without an asskicking.

Dude. You aren't kidding. That is some ROUGH country up there. :shock:
 
AZGrizFan said:
CV Griz Fan said:
AZGrizFan said:
IntuitiveGriz said:
Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to (Define Rooks' legit competition). :thumb:

Their are 6 divisions of football classification in AZ, Rooks played down in level 4.

Div 1
Div 2
Div 3
Div 4
Div 5
Div 6

Rooks' Div 4 high school has 345 students. enrollment: http://www.privateschoolreview.com/yuma-catholic-high-school-profile

The Div 1 state champion has 2,107 students, which is Griz commit Randy Rodriguez school, maxpreps #27 school in the country. enrollment: https://schools.peoriaud.k12.az.us/sites/cehs/Pages/Default.aspx

Legit, big-boy football...a pic of Randy Rodriquez scrolls through... http://www.centennialcoyotesfootball.com/page/show/1723399-home

AZ Classifications and schools: http://www.azpreps365.com/standings/football/d1

All true, IG, but there's a few caveats that should be mentioned.

1) The schools that typically produce the most talent from the state are Division II Chaparral and Division III Saguaro.
2) The private schools (of which Rooks attended) are a whole different animal when comparing attendance...they basically "recruit", which other schools aren't technically allowed to do (although Saguaro and Chaparral have been accused of it many times). they also routinely play "up" in talent, because of the recruiting. Rarely are they as big attendance-wise as the other schools in their division. Yuma Catholic is no exception, so 345 isn't necessarily representative of the size of schools they're playing against.
3) Two of the best schools in the state for football talent are Division IV Lakeside and Show Low.

There isn't a Power Program anywhere that doesn't recruit. Whether or not it's a private school/ public school, they all do it. Or if your program is that good, the "out of area" stud players just move into the particular schools' district....

True, but the private schools have a leg up because, as private schools, they can take kids from all over without having to have them actually move to the district.

True. Plus they can offer scholarships to inner city kids who want to get out of the 'hood. Catholic High Schools are usually college prep so they have much to offer the disadvantage student athlete.....
 
GoldStandardGriz said:
AZDoc said:
I like:
Eick-because his dad is on here
Corbin-because my son's name is Brennan
Crow-because I like Ninjas
Bradshaw-because we got him from Bozeman

Wrong class. He was referring to last year's recruiting class.

Well crap I had both threads up and was distracted by that recruit in the eagles jersey...
 
AZDoc said:
GoldStandardGriz said:
AZDoc said:
I like:
Eick-because his dad is on here
Corbin-because my son's name is Brennan
Crow-because I like Ninjas
Bradshaw-because we got him from Bozeman

Wrong class. He was referring to last year's recruiting class.

Well crap I had both threads up and was distracted by that recruit in the eagles jersey...

And rightly so, Doc. You are forgiven. :D :D
 
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