DUI.......Anyone?

[KoolMoeDee]

Athletic director Peter Fields told Montana's News Station that Trammell might be considered for reinstatement if the charges against him are lowered and it is determined that he acted in self-defense.

http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-p ... ot-guilty/

[EverettGriz]

Might need to check your facts there.................

Quaddruple checked!

[getgrizzy]

Might need to check your facts there.................

enlighten us on these "facts"

if we were the subject of an ncaa investigation, it'd be all over the media. don't m.s.u. -- make siht up.

What are you talking about? I've been talking about Trammell not being kicked off MSU's team.

read a couple threads above. he said the ncaa is investigating us. i thought that's what he and you was continuing to talk about. if not, excusez moi.

[WaGriz4life]

Athletic director Peter Fields told Montana's News Station that Trammell might be considered for reinstatement if the charges against him are lowered and it is determined that he acted in self-defense.

http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-p ... ot-guilty/

Letting the legal system run its course.

[wbtfg]

Athletic director Peter Fields told Montana's News Station that Trammell might be considered for reinstatement if the charges against him are lowered and it is determined that he acted in self-defense.

http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-p ... ot-guilty/

Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

[havgrizfan]

I don't know how BN works because I'm not a member but many have stated on here, that Griz fans get banned all the time. I'm a HUGE freedom of speech guy, but I'm going to say I'm in favor of censoring this thread at this point and banning doberman. I have no problem with Cats fans coming on here, even 2506 and saying as much isht as they want about Griz football, players and coaches, it's fine, but to come on here and say that there is an ongoing NCAA investigation at UM is over the top, it's a lie and no matter how many of us Griz fans know how rediculous that is, there are internet nerds who think it's gospel and will run with it. Chris, It's your board, do what you want, but in my opinion, it's pretty lame that doberman was allowed to post that TWICE.

[grizcountry420]

I don't know how BN works because I'm not a member but many have stated on here, that Griz fans get banned all the time. I'm a HUGE freedom of speech guy, but I'm going to say I'm in favor of censoring this thread at this point and banning doberman. I have no problem with Cats fans coming on here, even 2506 and saying as much isht as they want about Griz football, players and coaches, it's fine, but to come on here and say that there is an ongoing NCAA investigation at UM is over the top, it's a lie and no matter how many of us Griz fans know how rediculous that is, there are internet nerds who think it's gospel and will run with it. Chris, It's your board, do what you want, but in my opinion, it's pretty lame that doberman was allowed to post that TWICE.

[EverettGriz]

but in my opinion, it's pretty lame that doberman was allowed to post that TWICE.

I'm fine with him posting it. I'm also fine with all of us calling him out and telling him he's full of shit.

Doeberman's posts weren't lame. Doeberman is lame.

I actually feel a little sorry for the guy. It has to suck to want to beat the GRIZ so bad that you lie around hoping and praying for an NCAA investigation which will never come.

[getgrizzy]

while its bogus for doebermann to say we're being investigated and i've called him out for it myself, i have to be fair and say i've wondered if something like that will happen. maybe not the ncaa, but the feds. the list of things happening here is a long one and you have to think it might catch someones attention. i'm old enough to remember the work-study scandal we had. we didn't have to forfeit any games or go on probation, but it was a setback for the football team which was really coming around.

[griz8791]

I think it's interesting that the due process experts from down the interstate had nothing to say about the non-athlete Saudi guy who raped a student and then skipped town when the U notified him of student conduct code proceedings without waiting for the police or for any charges to play out in the criminal justice system, but are now back with more lectures after a DUI by a football player.

No agenda here at all. What they have to say about this is 100% sincere. It comes from the heart.

[ilovethecats]

I think it's interesting that the due process experts from down the interstate had nothing to say about the non-athlete Saudi guy who raped a student and then skipped town when the U notified him of student conduct code proceedings without waiting for the police or for any charges to play out in the criminal justice system, but are now back with more lectures after a DUI by a football player.

No agenda here at all. What they have to say about this is 100% sincere. It comes from the heart.

i'm sure some fans certainly have an agenda both ways. although i'm not really understanding your point. this is a board dedicated to athletics. of course a crime involving an athlete is going to get more talk here by all fanbases. do all griz fans have an agenda too because i don't hear them defending the saudi guy like i've heard them defend athletes.....

along those lines, i saw there was an assult downtown in bozeman this weekend. didn't involve athletes this time. i notice you guys haven't been talking about it on this board however. agenda.....?

[griz8791]

You're right. Now that I think about it, 2506 had a post in that thread about lawyers and keystone cops, and wild_cat posted something about the lawyer haz mat team. So that thread had all of the usual incisive and thoughtful analysis about what ought to be done to people accused of crimes, and I was wrong to suggest they had "nothing" to say about it.

[Bear Axed]

So what is going on this week with the NCAA investigation
in to ALL the Failed Drug tests with the kitten football players?

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/vi ... 20&t=27040

[Cats2506]

Athletic director Peter Fields told Montana's News Station that Trammell might be considered for reinstatement if the charges against him are lowered and it is determined that he acted in self-defense.

http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-p ... ot-guilty/

Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

[Bear Axed]

http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-p ... ot-guilty/

Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Which Gazzero incident and which Trammel incident are you comparing one of Gazzeros many incidents too?

[clairesmith]

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[GrizPony]

Nice ad loser.

[catzz]

Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Which Gazzero incident and which Trammel incident are you comparing one of Gazzeros many incidents too?

I am also confused to which Donaldson incident you are referring too as well?

[PlayerRep]

Hey PR,

Go back and read my posts. I quoted your source so if it is wrong that is your problem, not mine. Bottom line, the player put his hands on the policie officer which is an assault. If the CA decides not to charge it, so be it, but it doesn't change the fact. Being that I wasn't involved, I can only surmise that they wrote it as resisting arrest (misdemeanor) so they wouldn't have to arrest him for felony assault due to the fact it was a police officer. And again, doesn't change the fact that from day one I told you it would be plead down to a disorderly conduct (which it was) and UM came out looking like pathetic losers for the way they handled the situation.

But don't worry, the NCAA is currently doing its own investigation of how UM has handled these situations so we can let it be the final arbiter on the matter.

No, you didn't quote my source. You were just plain wrong, on multiple occasions and wouldn't back off. You lack "character" for doing that, in my view. No, there's no real evidence that the player put his hand on any police officer. It looked to me that he may have help up his hand as the police wrongfully tried to grab his cell phone, and the police officer initiated any contact.

I'm the one who said immediately that the charges would go away, or end with something very minor. Again, nothing was plead down to disorderly conduct. Two charges were completely dropped, and the disorderly conduct remained. Disorderly conduct is a total no-big-deal. It's like driving 27 in a 25.

The ncaa inquiries or asks questions of programs all the time, to see what's going on. Just because the ncaa may ask some questions doesn't mean they are doing an investigation. I can assure you that UM isn't concerned about anything the ncaa is or may be doing. And I talked to several senior administrators at UM and UM athletics about this tonight.

[tampa_griz]

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Incorrect. Gazerro had his "incident" in March 2009. He was suspended for spring practice. He did not receive any game suspensions:

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/vi ... 2&p=257440

He played most of 2009 until he quit in November.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/vi ... 49&start=7

Edit: I see what you meant. His was done after "in-season" incident.

[Growler1]

Hey PR,

Go back and read my posts. I quoted your source so if it is wrong that is your problem, not mine. Bottom line, the player put his hands on the policie officer which is an assault. If the CA decides not to charge it, so be it, but it doesn't change the fact. Being that I wasn't involved, I can only surmise that they wrote it as resisting arrest (misdemeanor) so they wouldn't have to arrest him for felony assault due to the fact it was a police officer. And again, doesn't change the fact that from day one I told you it would be plead down to a disorderly conduct (which it was) and UM came out looking like pathetic losers for the way they handled the situation.

But don't worry, the NCAA is currently doing its own investigation of how UM has handled these situations so we can let it be the final arbiter on the matter.

No, you didn't quote my source. You were just plain wrong, on multiple occasions and wouldn't back off. You lack "character" for doing that, in my view. No, there's no real evidence that the player put his hand on any police officer. It looked to me that he may have help up his hand as the police wrongfully tried to grab his cell phone, and the police officer initiated any contact.

I'm the one who said immediately that the charges would go away, or end with something very minor. Again, nothing was plead down to disorderly conduct. Two charges were completely dropped, and the disorderly conduct remained. Disorderly conduct is a total no-big-deal. It's like driving 27 in a 25.

The ncaa inquiries or asks questions of programs all the time, to see what's going on. Just because the ncaa may ask some questions doesn't mean they are doing an investigation. I can assure you that UM isn't concerned about anything the ncaa is or may be doing. And I talked to several senior administrators at UM and UM athletics about this tonight.

Spine-job half-truth #791

[Bear Axed]

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Incorrect. Gazerro had his "incident" in March 2009. He was suspended for spring practice. He did not receive any game suspensions:

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/vi ... 2&p=257440

He played most of 2009 until he quit in November.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/vi ... 49&start=7

Edit: I see what you meant. His was done after "in-season" incident.

What about the bar fight and Assault charge in Fort Benton on that prior 4th of July? ASH sure handled that one with lily white clean gloves!

[WILD_CAT]

It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

Funny how that works isn't it?

How it works at MSU too. I will bet that Trammell ends up suiting up for the Bobcats next year. He will be reinstated in the Fall and given a "2nd chance" by Pastor Ash

So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.

[WILD_CAT]

http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-p ... ot-guilty/

Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Exactly.

[Bear Axed]

So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.

I didn't think you kittens would allow yourselves to use the Jimmy Wilson Defense!