Get the low down on Griz Football and the FCS
by mcg » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:11 pm
gotgame75 wrote:Hammer wrote:gotgame75 wrote:Did anyone say he was as good as Cam Newton? I think not. Look, I want JJ to be our QB next year too, but the likelihood of that happening is getting smaller by the minute.
Actually just the opposite. Every day that goes by that charges aren't brought against JJ bodes well in his favor. RE will not uphold the campus court expulsion without charges against JJ. Fact. If they had solid evidence indicating JJ's guilt don't you think they would have charged him by now, 4 months after those alleged incidents?
I guess you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. The fact that we haven't heard anything by now doesn't have anything to do with JJ's prospects improving. I don't understand why you can't comprehend that the legal process involving the City and the University have nothing to do with each other. It seems incredibly absurd and unfair, but the Regents can uphold his expulsion without charges coming from the County Attorney's Office. Preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt are two very different standards of proof. Yes, JJ has recourse in challenging this disparity federally, but that process can take years.
Care to make a gentleman's bet on JJ playing this year? Look, I want JJ to play this year as much as you, but I (among others) am fairly certain it's not going to happen. And the coaches would be stupid to not have a backup plan in place, even if the odds were better than they are. It sucks to admit, but JJ is likely going to be a victim of a process that is much bigger than his case alone. In a different environment, this likely would have been an open and shut case that didn't make it past the accusation/investigation stage. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Unfairly or not, our beloved program has become synonymous with all that's wrong with college athletics. And for that reason, the powers that be, from the DA's office to the Regents, no longer have the discretion they once did in determining these cases. The pressure from the outside to "make heads roll" is going to have an impact. I'm sure you are aware of the term "buyer's market"? Well from a legal standpoint, this is a "victim's market".
You can get expelled for lot's of reasons that won't send you to jail. Cheating on test for example. I think the University process and the legal process are pretty separate.
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by Blue Tears » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:29 pm
Eric Mathews committed to Texas State.
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by grizindabox » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:34 pm
Blue Tears wrote:Eric Mathews committed to Texas State.
Why in the world would he choose Texas St. over Montana?

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by Irish Duck » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:39 am
grizindabox wrote:Blue Tears wrote:Eric Mathews committed to Texas State.
Why in the world would he choose Texas St. over Montana?

Quinton McCown chose New Mexico. Interesting.
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by kemajic » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:20 am
Normal denial that a recruit would prefer an FBS opportunity over small college.
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by grizindabox » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:59 am
kemajic wrote:Normal denial that a recruit would prefer a FBS opportunity over small college.
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by AZGrizFan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:45 am
kemajic wrote:Normal denial that a recruit would prefer an FCS opportunity over small college.
Why do you post this every time someone questions a kids decision? How do you explain the multiple recruits every year Montana DOES get that had FBS offers (Does the name Herbert Gamboa ring a bell? And he had a LOT better offer than suck-ass Texas State).
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by kemajic » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:20 am
AZGrizFan wrote:kemajic wrote:Normal denial that a recruit would prefer an FBS opportunity over small college.
Why do you post this every time someone questions a kids decision? How do you explain the multiple recruits every year Montana DOES get that had FBS offers (Does the name Herbert Gamboa ring a bell? And he had a LOT better offer than suck-ass Texas State).
Why do guys like you feel compelled to question kid's decisions when they pick an FBS program over Montana? I don't try to explain why a recruit might pick Montana over an FBS offer, because it's usually unknown whether the FBS offer was financially comparable; they are often offers for an FBS preferred walk-on vs. a partial or full ride at FCS. Money differential can be critical to recruits. I know something about the decision process, because I went through it personally. Where does your insight come from?
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by info » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 am
So..do you think this means JJ is a go??
Fan support isn't even worth arguing. UND has fans, Eastern has a bunch of Airway Heights drunks who couldn't score Coug tickets.
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by AZGrizFan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:30 am
kemajic wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:kemajic wrote:Normal denial that a recruit would prefer an FBS opportunity over small college.
Why do you post this every time someone questions a kids decision? How do you explain the multiple recruits every year Montana DOES get that had FBS offers (Does the name Herbert Gamboa ring a bell? And he had a LOT better offer than suck-ass Texas State).
Why do guys like you feel compelled to question kid's decisions when they pick an FBS program over Montana? I don't try to explain why a recruit might pick Montana over an FBS offer, because it's usually unknown whether the FBS offer was financially comparable; they are often offers for an FBS preferred walk-on vs. a partial or full ride at FCS. Money differential can be critical to recruits. I know something about the decision process, because I went through it personally. Where does your insight come from?
I feel "compelled" because it drives you crazy.

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by grizindabox » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:33 am
info wrote:So..do you think this means JJ is a go??
I do not think this means anything in relation to JJ
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by kemajic » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:07 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:kemajic wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:kemajic wrote:Normal denial that a recruit would prefer an FBS opportunity over small college.
Why do you post this every time someone questions a kids decision? How do you explain the multiple recruits every year Montana DOES get that had FBS offers (Does the name Herbert Gamboa ring a bell? And he had a LOT better offer than suck-ass Texas State).
Why do guys like you feel compelled to question kid's decisions when they pick an FBS program over Montana? I don't try to explain why a recruit might pick Montana over an FBS offer, because it's usually unknown whether the FBS offer was financially comparable; they are often offers for an FBS preferred walk-on vs. a partial or full ride at FCS. Money differential can be critical to recruits. I know something about the decision process, because I went through it personally. Where does your insight come from?
I feel "compelled" because it drives you crazy.

You're giving yourself too much credit.
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by TxGriz » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:17 pm
mcg wrote:You can get expelled for lot's of reasons that won't send you to jail. Cheating on test for example. I think the University process and the legal process are pretty separate.
They can be separate depending on the circumstances, but in the case of Jordan Johnson, his fate is inextricably bound to the outcome of a legal proceeding. Can anyone envision an adverse ruling under the SCC if he is legally exonerated or the charges dropped entirely?
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by AZGrizFan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:31 pm
kemajic wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:kemajic wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Why do you post this every time someone questions a kids decision? How do you explain the multiple recruits every year Montana DOES get that had FBS offers (Does the name Herbert Gamboa ring a bell? And he had a LOT better offer than suck-ass Texas State).
Why do guys like you feel compelled to question kid's decisions when they pick an FBS program over Montana? I don't try to explain why a recruit might pick Montana over an FBS offer, because it's usually unknown whether the FBS offer was financially comparable; they are often offers for an FBS preferred walk-on vs. a partial or full ride at FCS. Money differential can be critical to recruits. I know something about the decision process, because I went through it personally. Where does your insight come from?
I feel "compelled" because it drives you crazy.

You're giving yourself too much credit.

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by kemajic » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:13 pm
TxGriz wrote:Can anyone envision an adverse ruling under the SCC if he is legally exonerated or the charges dropped entirely?
What charges? I've been traveling; have I missed something?
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by Pater_Ursus_Arctos » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:21 pm
Is there any update or news about the QB listed in the title of this thread or is this just another re-visit of the revisted "what the hell is JJ's status" or "who can expel who nd when" thread?
any update?
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by ordigger » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:25 pm
Pater_Ursus_Arctos wrote:Is there any update or news about the QB listed in the title of this thread or is this just another re-visit of the revisted "what the hell is JJ's status" or "who can expel who nd when" thread?
any update?
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lol...obviously you just came to the thread and posted and never even read this page.....just look up a few posts....its stated plain as day.
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by Brock Landers » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:40 pm
kemajic wrote:TxGriz wrote:Can anyone envision an adverse ruling under the SCC if he is legally exonerated or the charges dropped entirely?
What charges? I've been traveling; have I missed something?
I would assume we still know jack

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