Couture v. Foley - Missoulian Coverage

[Washgrizfan1]

Contrast how the Missoulian has treated Dean Couture and Jim Foley.

Couture tells the accused, in writing, that any discussion of the alleged misconduct with others (I assume this would include the Missoulian) “would result in your immediate dismissal” from the University. The Missoulian doesn’t even quote Couture, let alone accuse him of threatening to punish the student.

Foley asks in an email to Couture: “Is it not a violation of the student code of conduct for the woman to be publicly talking about the process and providing details about the conclusion?” The Missoulian front page headline for their article says: “UM vice president sought to punish alleged rape victim, email reveals”. Huh, where did Foley “seek to punish” the victim? He asked a question. The article also said that Foley was “upset that an alleged rape victim spoke publicly about UM’s handling of her case”. Huh, how did the Missoulian conclude he was “upset”? He merely asked a question.

Is there any basis for this disparate coverage/treatment?

Bias on the part of the Missoulian? Different and unfair treatment for the accused and the accuser? Gender bias? An agenda? Hypocritical?

[grizatwork]

I believe that Foley's behaviors were inappropriate and I now feel the same way about Couture. As for the Missoulian, I am not going down that road. Too well traveled for my tastes.

[Potomac Griz]

Which story sells more newspapers, and gets more interest? Actual news, being unbiased, and being truthful is a far far distant second in importance to trying to make a buck for today's media (not only the Missoulian).

Lee Enterprises stock the past several years

Nuff said...

[griz4life]

I believe that Foley's behaviors were inappropriate and I now feel the same way about Couture. As for the Missoulian, I am not going down that road. Too well traveled for my tastes.

+1

[BWahlberg]

I emailed Sherry Devlin about the claims against Coture and Aronofsky. She wrote me back:

Brint,

We'll take a look at those sections of the documents and get something into the Missoulian. Thanks for the head's up.

Sherry Devlin

Missoulian editor

I hope they actually do, although I wonder how the headline will look, especially compared to the "punishing victims" headline against Foley.

[GrizMusician]

I emailed Sherry Devlin about the claims against Coture and Aronofsky. She wrote me back:

Brint,

We'll take a look at those sections of the documents and get something into the Missoulian. Thanks for the head's up.

Sherry Devlin

Missoulian editor

I hope they actually do, although I wonder how the headline will look, especially compared to the "pushing victims" headline against Foley.

Awesome!!!

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[Tokyogriz]

They won't publish them unless it fits florios narratve of reality she's spoon fed missoulian readers for the last half year or so.

[Noches de Passion]

They won't publish them unless it fits florios narratve of reality she's spoon fed missoulian readers for the last half year or so.

It's a good thing we have posters as unbiased as you to uncover the real facts, then.

[funny water]

They won't publish them unless it fits florios narratve of reality she's spoon fed missoulian readers for the last half year or so.

It's a good thing we have posters as unbiased as you to uncover the real facts, then.

Sitting on the sideline watching this play out, I for one, am thankful of the work Tokyo, PR & BW have done in putting out the non-sensationalized details.....it's quite a breath of fresh air compared to the garbage in the lee enterprises pubs....

[mtgrizrule]

They won't publish them unless it fits florios narratve of reality she's spoon fed missoulian readers for the last half year or so.

It's a good thing we have posters as unbiased as you to uncover the real facts, then.

Sitting on the sideline watching this play out, I for one, am thankful of the work Tokyo, PR & BW have done in putting out the non-sensationalized details.....it's quite a breath of fresh air compared to the garbage in the lee enterprises pubs....

[grizpaws]

They won't publish them unless it fits florios narratve of reality she's spoon fed missoulian readers for the last half year or so.

It's a good thing we have posters as unbiased as you to uncover the real facts, then.

Sitting on the sideline watching this play out, I for one, am thankful of the work Tokyo, PR & BW have done in putting out the non-sensationalized details.....it's quite a breath of fresh air compared to the garbage in the lee enterprises pubs....

[HorribilisFanatic]

Written by different reporters. The headlines are written by the editors. Based on floria's Twitter account she is on vacation so Moy wrote the latest, less biased, article.

[PlayerRep]

I believe that Foley's behaviors were inappropriate and I now feel the same way about Couture. As for the Missoulian, I am not going down that road. Too well traveled for my tastes.

Which Foley behaviors were inappropriate?

[br fan]

I believe that Foley's behaviors were inappropriate and I now feel the same way about Couture. As for the Missoulian, I am not going down that road. Too well traveled for my tastes.

Which Foley behaviors were inappropriate?

Proceedings under the Student Conduct Code are confidential. It was completely inappropriate that Foley would question, in an e-mail discussing the situation with other university officials, whether the victim herself violated code, and he should be flogged. Now if Foley or any other UM official should question whether JJ, through Paoli getting the court documents released, violated the confidentiality of the code, that's ok. It fits the theory of the lynching.

[tourist]

I emailed Sherry Devlin about the claims against Coture and Aronofsky. She wrote me back:

Brint,

We'll take a look at those sections of the documents and get something into the Missoulian. Thanks for the head's up.

Sherry Devlin

Missoulian editor

I hope they actually do, although I wonder how the headline will look, especially compared to the "punishing victims" headline against Foley.

From the same editor that allows Gwen to do what she does best?

[PlayerRep]

I believe that Foley's behaviors were inappropriate and I now feel the same way about Couture. As for the Missoulian, I am not going down that road. Too well traveled for my tastes.

Which Foley behaviors were inappropriate?

Proceedings under the Student Conduct Code are confidential. It was completely inappropriate that Foley would question, in an e-mail discussing the situation with other university officials, whether the victim herself violated code, and he should be flogged. Now if Foley or any other UM official should question whether JJ, through Paoli getting the court documents released, violated the confidentiality of the code, that's ok. It fits the theory of the lynching.

It's perfectly appropriate for Foley, or any UM official, to ask, internally, whether it's okay for a student involved in a university proceeding to talk to the press. It's a blatant violation of the code provide information about the confidential proceeding to the press or anyone. You are the one who should be flogged.

[br fan]

I believe that Foley's behaviors were inappropriate and I now feel the same way about Couture. As for the Missoulian, I am not going down that road. Too well traveled for my tastes.

Which Foley behaviors were inappropriate?

Proceedings under the Student Conduct Code are confidential. It was completely inappropriate that Foley would question, in an e-mail discussing the situation with other university officials, whether the victim herself violated code, and he should be flogged. Now if Foley or any other UM official should question whether JJ, through Paoli getting the court documents released, violated the confidentiality of the code, that's ok. It fits the theory of the lynching.

It's perfectly appropriate for Foley, or any UM official, to ask, internally, whether it's okay for a student involved in a university proceeding to talk to the press. It's a blatant violation of the code provide information about the confidential proceeding to the press or anyone. You are the one who should be flogged.

The problem with the internet is one can't always recognize sarcasm. Regardless, I am kind of surprised that you took my post as a serious statement rather than one that in fact actually completely agrees with the point you were making.

[PlayerRep]

Which Foley behaviors were inappropriate?

Proceedings under the Student Conduct Code are confidential. It was completely inappropriate that Foley would question, in an e-mail discussing the situation with other university officials, whether the victim herself violated code, and he should be flogged. Now if Foley or any other UM official should question whether JJ, through Paoli getting the court documents released, violated the confidentiality of the code, that's ok. It fits the theory of the lynching.

It's perfectly appropriate for Foley, or any UM official, to ask, internally, whether it's okay for a student involved in a university proceeding to talk to the press. It's a blatant violation of the code provide information about the confidential proceeding to the press or anyone. You are the one who should be flogged.

The problem with the internet is one can't always recognize sarcasm. Regardless, I am kind of surprised that you took my post as a serious statement rather than one that in fact actually completely agrees with the point you were making.

Actually, my response to you was just a joke response to your sarcastic post. I'm surprised that you didn't realize that. Actually, I can't read minds as well as I used to and your sarcasm went over or under my head. If it was sarcasm and you were agreeing with my view, my apologies.

[GrizMusician]

Which Foley behaviors were inappropriate?

Proceedings under the Student Conduct Code are confidential. It was completely inappropriate that Foley would question, in an e-mail discussing the situation with other university officials, whether the victim herself violated code, and he should be flogged. Now if Foley or any other UM official should question whether JJ, through Paoli getting the court documents released, violated the confidentiality of the code, that's ok. It fits the theory of the lynching.

It's perfectly appropriate for Foley, or any UM official, to ask, internally, whether it's okay for a student involved in a university proceeding to talk to the press. It's a blatant violation of the code provide information about the confidential proceeding to the press or anyone. You are the one who should be flogged.

The problem with the internet is one can't always recognize sarcasm. Regardless, I am kind of surprised that you took my post as a serious statement rather than one that in fact actually completely agrees with the point you were making.

Your sarcasm has reached such a sophisticated & advanced level, that most people have no idea when you're serious or joking.

[UMGriz75]

The Conduct Code says what it says: neither side can publicize the proceedings. Foley simply asked if she had and if so, is that also a violation of the conduct code? It is.

The responses in the Missoulian were to the effect there should be two conduct codes, one for male athletes, and another for all other members of the student body.

That was really what Foley's question was.

[Umista]

I can't wait for Florio to come back to Missoula and upon completing her holiday things will get fun and exciting again. Perhaps she will become the head missoulian sports reporter for the Griz football team. She will be able to state how many times the QB got stuck. How many balls he lost. It will be so much fun. Her and president Engstrom sitting in the presidents box drinking soda looking down at the 27,000 scum spectators all the while knowing they are above it all.

Seriously, I hope for the sake of the UM she tones her bias down. If not, we will see hell around Missoula and the entire state of Montana. Her kind of blathering is extremely harmful and bad to the bone.

[IdaGriz01]

Which story sells more newspapers, and gets more interest? Actual news, being unbiased, and being truthful is a far far distant second in importance to trying to make a buck for today's media (not only the Missoulian).

Lee Enterprises stock the past several years

Nuff said...

Ouch.

Glad I don't own that one.

[IdaGriz01]

Written by different reporters. The headlines are written by the editors. Based on floria's Twitter account she is on vacation so Moy wrote the latest, less biased, article.

Point of irrelevance, JFF (just for fun): At most newspapers, Editors don't write headlines, nor do the reporters who write the articles. They have a specialist(? ) to do that. Their job is to churn out headlines with "punch" that will grab the attention of readers. It often seems like the headline writer just skims the text anyway. How many have you seen that don't really make any sense, or don't seem to connect with the article content?

[WaGriz4life]

Written by different reporters. The headlines are written by the editors. Based on floria's Twitter account she is on vacation so Moy wrote the latest, less biased, article.

Point of irrelevance, JFF (just for fun): At most newspapers, Editors don't write headlines, nor do the reporters who write the articles. They have a specialist(? ) to do that. Their job is to churn out headlines with "punch" that will grab the attention of readers. It often seems like the headline writer just skims the text anyway. How many have you seen that don't really make any sense, or don't seem to connect with the article content?

In the Missoulian? Almost every single article

[albinogriz]

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