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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Cringer » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:10 am

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well her stereotype of fizz fans has been pretty accurate so far :thumb:


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Re: JJ Trial

Postby TxGriz » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:15 am

Blgs Griz Fan wrote:I suspect the prosecution called Bieneman to testify that he witnessed Doe offering to do JJ anytime, he knew JJ had been texting her that day, he encouraged JJ to get her done when he left. This is a set up to show JJ had been offered, had contacted her, had been encouraged by AB, had a few beers and when Doe turned JJ down he decided to just take what he felt was his. Smooth move by the prosecution.


And their whole case.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby grizfan95 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:22 am

Blgs Griz Fan wrote:I suspect the prosecution called Bieneman to testify that he witnessed Doe offering to do JJ anytime, he knew JJ had been texting her that day, he encouraged JJ to get her done when he left. This is a set up to show JJ had been offered, had contacted her, had been encouraged by AB, had a few beers and when Doe turned JJ down he decided to just take what he felt was his. Smooth move by the prosecution.


Yet that does not prove anything. The state has effectively showed this girl has problems but not proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that rape occurred. Not even close. There are so many grey areas in this I just don't see, currently, how it could go any other way.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby PolsonGrizFan » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:57 am

Welsh said it seemed like the parents wanted to let police know their concerns about their daughter. #johnsontrial

What type of "concerns"?

Welsh: DOJ investigation of UM, MPD and surrounding media attention had no effect on how they investigated the Johnson case #JohnsonTrial

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Re: JJ Trial

Postby GrizMusician » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:16 am

So... how many days are there left in this trial?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby SouthDakotaGrizzly » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:17 am

Seems like the prosecution's witnesses are running out of steam....nothing of much obvious impact lately. Just rest already.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby JBS » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:22 am

Why did the prosecution put that guy on the stand? He did way more harm than good.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby SAMSDAD » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:27 am

I have mixed emotions about this case and I can see both sides. People are saying " why didn't she scream rape" and her male room mates could have saved her? The other side of that coin is if she wanted to frame him for rape, why didn't she let JJ take off her cloths and as soon as she was naked start screaming rape? Seems more logical if setting him up was her plan.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby JBS » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:32 am

SAMSDAD wrote:I have mixed emotions about this case and I can see both sides. People are saying " why didn't she scream rape" and her male room mates could have saved her? The other side of that coin is if she wanted to frame him for rape, why didn't she let JJ take off her cloths and as soon as she was naked start screaming rape? Seems more logical if setting him up was her plan.

Because she is afflicted? This whole thing has gone on long enough. The prosecution has nothing and is losing everything whenever Paoli or Pabst cross examines. Quit wasting everyones money.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby BWahlberg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:34 am

Didn't see this posted elsewhere but the "trial by twitter" talk is spreading nationally and this blog post even links back to this thread. (which kind of embarrasses me, some of the comments made in this ongoing discussion).

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/0 ... real-time/
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Forshizzlegrizzle » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:36 am

How long is this trial scheduled to go?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby go4two » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:38 am

SAMSDAD wrote:I have mixed emotions about this case and I can see both sides. People are saying " why didn't she scream rape" and her male room mates could have saved her? The other side of that coin is if she wanted to frame him for rape, why didn't she let JJ take off her cloths and as soon as she was naked start screaming rape? Seems more logical if setting him up was her plan.


I don't think most people think she was setting JJ up for rape. Most think that she did not like the "one night stand" that JJ gave her, so she is making him pay for this humiliation. Let's face it, JJ is guilty of being a dirt bag lover, but he is not guilty of rape.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby PolsonGrizFan » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:39 am

BWahlberg wrote:Didn't see this posted elsewhere but the "trial by twitter" talk is spreading nationally and this blog post even links back to this thread. (which kind of embarrasses me, some of the comments made in this ongoing discussion).

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/0 ... real-time/


Seems like an accurate account of what's gone down so far.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby GRZFTBL » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:39 am

BWahlberg wrote:Didn't see this posted elsewhere but the "trial by twitter" talk is spreading nationally and this blog post even links back to this thread. (which kind of embarrasses me, some of the comments made in this ongoing discussion).

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/0 ... real-time/


In the comment section:

when publishing such a news story in SF.. the words Montana, QB, and rape should not be used in the title

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Re: JJ Trial

Postby GrizMusician » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:43 am

BWahlberg wrote:Didn't see this posted elsewhere but the "trial by twitter" talk is spreading nationally and this blog post even links back to this thread. (which kind of embarrasses me, some of the comments made in this ongoing discussion).

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/0 ... real-time/


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Re: JJ Trial

Postby BWahlberg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:47 am

GrizMusician wrote:
BWahlberg wrote:Didn't see this posted elsewhere but the "trial by twitter" talk is spreading nationally and this blog post even links back to this thread. (which kind of embarrasses me, some of the comments made in this ongoing discussion).

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/0 ... real-time/


...all publicity is good publicity? :?


Yeah probably not.... :(

Thinking of the reactions people have scrolling through this thread - people who have just been casually following this nationally... ugh.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby GrizMusician » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:53 am

BWahlberg wrote:
GrizMusician wrote:
BWahlberg wrote:Didn't see this posted elsewhere but the "trial by twitter" talk is spreading nationally and this blog post even links back to this thread. (which kind of embarrasses me, some of the comments made in this ongoing discussion).

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/0 ... real-time/


...all publicity is good publicity? :?


Yeah probably not.... :(

Thinking of the reactions people have scrolling through this thread - people who have just been casually following this nationally... ugh.


Well, it will be interesting to see what the opinions are when we have a verdict (or lack thereof).
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Forshizzlegrizzle » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:54 am

I wouldn't worry to much about that Brint. I can't sift my way through all this garbage and I frequent the site.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby BWahlberg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:59 am

Forshizzlegrizzle wrote:I wouldn't worry to much about that Brint. I can't sift my way through all this garbage and I frequent the site.


Ha ha :thumb:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby go4two » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:23 am

Mother on stand.

Hope Paili asked Jane Doe's Mother whether she believes her daughter was raped.

Mother states Doe's Father met with UM Prez?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Forshizzlegrizzle » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:23 am

Forshizzlegrizzle wrote:How long is this trial scheduled to go?


Don't everyone raise their hands at once.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby GrizPony » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:24 am

Forshizzlegrizzle wrote:
Forshizzlegrizzle wrote:How long is this trial scheduled to go?


Don't everyone raise their hands at once.


Probably only the rest of this week. Should be done.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby PolsonGrizFan » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:29 am

Mother: maybe since this happened, she's become overly sensitive #JohnsonTrial

Doe had counselling for a year because a kid snatched a trophy out of her hand?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby go4two » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:32 am

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Mother: daughter can get upset when things don't go her way #JohnsonTrial
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby RobGriz » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:34 am

Prosecution has got to be about ready to rest. Trying to end on emotional testimony. Wouldn't want to go to long with this I wouldn't think the jury will get sick hearing about it. Although I am admittedly not an expert so who knows...
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