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What could we do in the REDZONE??

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GlacierGrizX

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For the last two years our red zone offense has been atrocious. I was wondering if we could switch to maybe a pro or "I" formation down there. I watched a college football game the other day and the announcers made a good point. Later in the season it is always good to have a power formation, as the injury bug and wear& tear of the defense are at their greatest. What formations and style would be compatible with Stitt's current offense. Maybe if our current scheme is not working well we could reboot into it to during the game to at least get some rhythm and keep our defense off the field? Our current "Battle Ram" formation will not do!
 
Give the ball to your power back and if you feel the need to throw it ONCE do it vertically and not down the line of scrimmage.

And don't ever have the worst runner on your team try to run it in.
 
Handicapped with no tight ends for both running and passing. Our offensive genius doesn't need them.
 
Hilarious thread. Montana had the SECOND BEST RED ZONE OFFENSE IN THE FUCKING CONFERENCE LAST SEASON. In fact, only EWU scored more TD's, only Idaho State scored points more frequently than did the Griz....33 TD's in 50 chances.

Oh,and before you ask....Griz were NUMBER ONE in Red Zone defense as well...
 
AZGrizFan said:
Hilarious thread. Montana had the SECOND BEST RED ZONE OFFENSE IN THE f***[*] CONFERENCE LAST SEASON. In fact, only EWU scored more TD's, only Idaho State scored points more frequently than did the Griz....33 TD's in 50 chances.

Oh,and before you ask....Griz were NUMBER ONE in Red Zone defense as well...
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Was just going to say "didn't we have a huge improvement in red zone efficiency this last year".

I remembered we were number one in the conference for a while
 
HookedonGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Hilarious thread. Montana had the SECOND BEST RED ZONE OFFENSE IN THE f***[*] CONFERENCE LAST SEASON. In fact, only EWU scored more TD's, only Idaho State scored points more frequently than did the Griz....33 TD's in 50 chances.

Oh,and before you ask....Griz were NUMBER ONE in Red Zone defense as well...
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Was just going to say "didn't we have a huge improvement in red zone efficiency this last year".

I remembered we were number one in the conference for a while
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Hold on for the "yeah, but they all happened against the three cupcakes" argument....
 
AZGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Hilarious thread. Montana had the SECOND BEST RED ZONE OFFENSE IN THE f***[*] CONFERENCE LAST SEASON. In fact, only EWU scored more TD's, only Idaho State scored points more frequently than did the Griz....33 TD's in 50 chances.

Oh,and before you ask....Griz were NUMBER ONE in Red Zone defense as well...
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Was just going to say "didn't we have a huge improvement in red zone efficiency this last year".

I remembered we were number one in the conference for a while
Click to expand...

Hold on for the "yeah, but they all happened against the three cupcakes" argument....
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3-5 in BSC play.
 
griz5700 said:
AZGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Hilarious thread. Montana had the SECOND BEST RED ZONE OFFENSE IN THE f***[*] CONFERENCE LAST SEASON. In fact, only EWU scored more TD's, only Idaho State scored points more frequently than did the Griz....33 TD's in 50 chances.

Oh,and before you ask....Griz were NUMBER ONE in Red Zone defense as well...
Click to expand...

Was just going to say "didn't we have a huge improvement in red zone efficiency this last year".

I remembered we were number one in the conference for a while
Click to expand...

Hold on for the "yeah, but they all happened against the three cupcakes" argument....
Click to expand...

3-5 in BSC play.
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No shit, Sherlock. But the issue wasn't red zone. OP needs to find another villain.
 
AZGrizFan said:
griz5700 said:
AZGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
Was just going to say "didn't we have a huge improvement in red zone efficiency this last year".

I remembered we were number one in the conference for a while
Click to expand...

Hold on for the "yeah, but they all happened against the three cupcakes" argument....
Click to expand...

3-5 in BSC play.
Click to expand...

No shit, Sherlock. But the issue wasn't red zone. OP needs to find another villain.
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Except he was the OP ;)
 
AZGrizFan said:
Hilarious thread. Montana had the SECOND BEST RED ZONE OFFENSE IN THE f***[*] CONFERENCE LAST SEASON. In fact, only EWU scored more TD's, only Idaho State scored points more frequently than did the Griz....33 TD's in 50 chances.

Oh,and before you ask....Griz were NUMBER ONE in Red Zone defense as well...
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They were maybe effective maybe from the 10+ out, but once they were inside the 7 it was pitiful to watch. Stitt's offense of throwing the ball two yards to either side or run up the center with 7 vs 5 scenario does not work well.

So we scored only 15 touchdowns in 7 of our 11 games from the redzone. So in turn we scored 18 other redzone touch downs in the other 4 games= skewed stats
Good team Redzone efficiency:
UNI 0-1
Poly 3-5
SUU 2-4
NAU 3-5
EWU 1-3
UNC 3-7
MSU 2-5 for chuckles

15/30=50% 7 games and 18/20 for 4 games
 
RANK TEAM G RZATT RZ RUSH TD RZ PASS TD RZ FG MADE RZSCORES PCT
1 Yale 10 29 13 7 8 28 .966
2 Idaho St. 11 26 11 11 3 25 .962
3 Dayton 11 45 24 9 9 42 .933
4 Richmond 13 55 17 14 20 51 .927
5 Drake 11 49 11 27 7 45 .918
6 ETSU 11 31 10 7 11 28 .903
7 Samford 12 51 12 24 10 46 .902
8 Valparaiso 11 30 12 11 4 27 .900
- Montana 11 50 13 20 12 45 .900
- Cal Poly 12 40 25 6 5 36 .900
- San Diego 12 60 25 21 8 54 .900
12 N.C. Central 11 37 16 8 9 33 .892
13 Princeton 10 46 25 12 4 41 .891
14 Gardner-Webb 11 35 18 4 9 31 .886
15 Montana St. 11 34 18 4 8 30 .882
- South Dakota 11 34 10 12 8 30 .882
- Prairie View 11 34 17 8 5 30 .882
18 North Dakota St. 12 33 14 7 8 29 .879
19 SFA 11 41 15 9 12 36 .878
- Butler 11 41 16 9 11 36 .878
21 McNeese 11 47 15 16 10 41 .872
22 Saint Francis (PA) 12 39 13 12 9 34 .872
23 North Dakota 12 46 15 13 12 40 .870
24 Colgate 10 38 15 8 10 33 .868
25 Duquesne 11 45 14 16 9 39 .867
26 Southern Ill. 11 37 15 12 5 32 .865
27 Furman 11 43 17 14 6 37 .860
28 Lehigh 12 57 27 16 6 49 .860
29 Alabama A&M 11 35 16 3 11 30 .857
- James Madison 12 77 36 18 12 66 .857
31 Sam Houston St. 12 69 27 29 3 59 .855
32 South Dakota St. 12 48 15 19 7 41 .854
33 Tennessee St. 11 41 12 16 7 35 .854
 
The Brady-Ram formation was truly worthless in short-yardage situations. There were @ least 20 O & D linemen sitting on the bench that Stitt could have used in a heavy package, had he so desired. But since the supposition here didn't hold up this year, just run the dam offense. 90% success rate is more than good enough.
 
i think the only solution to our red zone woes is to run the spider-2 Y banana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV02cGw-PvQ

now theres a beautiful banana.
 
I would have liked to see us just give it to Calhoun and let him run behind the H-back more. Especially once we are inside the 10.

Another thing that has crossed my mind was Simis. He's so athletic and strong....why not develop a package where he does some read-option stuff and we really run at the defense with him and Calhoun. Could be useful in the red zone and if we are struggling to get the pass game going. He can still throw....so if they load the box and we like a matchup with Bingham, JLM, or anyone else Makena can still get them the rock. Just thinking it could be a change of pace deal.


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brewskis said:
I would have liked to see us just give it to Calhoun and let him run behind the H-back more. Especially once we are inside the 10.

Another thing that has crossed my mind was Simis. He's so athletic and strong....why not develop a package where he does some read-option stuff and we really run at the defense with him and Calhoun. Could be useful in the red zone and if we are struggling to get the pass game going. He can still throw....so if they load the box and we like a matchup with Bingham, JLM, or anyone else Makena can still get them the rock. Just thinking it could be a change of pace deal.


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These make too much sense Brewskis the "The Battering Ram" formation is almost perfect, used with at least one time out prior to running it...the fake spike could be implemented to add another wrinkle that no one understands.

It reminds me of the good old days when Bobby would call a draw play on the goal line, the result...fooled no one and ended in a loss of yards.

Seems as though any change to the goal line formation would be an improvement. Maybe, focus on what his offensive philosophy is about namely to pressure defense into defending sideline to sideline.
 
Thanks Kemajc no tight ends or H backs or a fullback. I am tired of stats that show how good we are against shitty teams. All you guys watch every game and you know we are pathetic against decent teams in the red zone. We have 16 wide receivers that does not help us inside the 10.
 
beaverboy said:
Thanks Kemajc no tight ends or H backs or a fullback. I am tired of stats that show how good we are against shitty teams. All you guys watch every game and you know we are pathetic against decent teams in the red zone. We have 16 wide receivers that does not help us inside the 10.
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I agree the red zone play calling is pathetic at times. For instance against MSU Calhoun was thumping the D so they call pass play that goes incomplete and waste a down, result, drive stopper.

I do not agree with the personnel problems. Just because a player isn't labeled a H back, full back, or TE...these guys are on the team, Bingham, Ralston, Horner and others that can play these positions. the coaches just have to be willing to use the personal on the roster better.
 
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