It's not a revolving door is it?

[cody45051]

I'm very happy that both coordinators are in place, but my next thought was how long they gonna last? You don't hear about coaches having long tenures these days. It seems coaches treat Montana like a good jump point. I don't have much knowledge about the business of college football so is Montana a revolving door or is this just the business of coaching?

[MrTitleist]

Until Montana starts paying real salaries to coaches, it'll be a revolving door.

[DuCharme]

Until Montana starts paying real salaries to coaches, it'll be a revolving door.

Agreed. But I'd use 'ridiculous' in place of "real".

[Geddes]

Yep.

[Griz1]

I don't think that a "revolving door" for coaches is any different than any other job. When an opportunity comes along that pays better, in a location that we would want to live and allows to provide for our family better. We take it and move on. The difference here is that the University of Montana doesn't move on for us as once a Griz always a Griz. As much as we would like to see the coaches remain here we know they won't Still we are hopeful they will. Robin Selvig is the only Griz coach that has bucked that trend.

[Growler1]

I don't think that a "revolving door" for coaches is any different than any other job. When an opportunity comes along that pays better, in a location that we would want to live and allows to provide for our family better. We take it and move on. The difference here is that the University of Montana doesn't move on for us as once a Griz always a Griz. As much as we would like to see the coaches remain here we know they won't Still we are hopeful they will. Robin Selvig is the only Griz coach that has bucked that trend.

Most assistant coaches move around a lot. If you look at the dossier for almost any long-time assistant coach, they will have worked at many different schools. One reason is that the business is all about building relationships among mentors and colleagues. These associations pay dividends later in your career. It is amazing that most assistants hired have some previous relationship to the coach who hired them.

[wbtfg]

It's a revolving door in pretty much every college football program. If someone is good, they will move up to a better paying job. There are obviously a few exceptions, but that's the way it works.

[grizrgood]

Yep, we are! I think coaches look at Montana as a very desirable jumping point, great program that's gonna win games, good place to noticed! We probably get better candidates because of that.

[WaGriz4life]

Of course it's a revolving door. Were a small time college football program in Missoula, MT. Not exactly a destination job.

[AllWeatherFan]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

[Silvertip]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

Hmm. No money to elevate the program, but enough to substantially increase coaching compensation?

[WaGriz4life]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

What!? In this economy you want to pay our football coaches MORE money? Griz coaches and players get EVERYTHING in Missoula and they get away with anything they want. How much do our professors make? I would certainly hope our Creative Writing professors make more than some football coach. I do not want MY TAX DOLLARS spent to increase a football coaches salary. Increasing coaches salary would be making a statements across the Nation that Football is the most important thing at our University and in our state.

Sincerely,
Montanans

#SARCASM

[wbtfg]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

Would that have kept Hauck/Breske/Smith...etc from leaving?

[reinell30]

WaGriz4life:

Please do not plagiarize my signature as a Montanan who supports your opinion. I believe in paying to keep the best, if it's monetary that makies it happen, than lets make it happen.

[WaGriz4life]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

Would that have kept Hauck/Breske/Smith...etc from leaving?

Probably not considering the job offers they got, but it would have at least made them think about it. Smith can't be making much more than $150,000 coaching QB's for Boise State. If he was making that in Missoula, he and his wife would have the option to stay in Missoula and not be hurting themselves financially. Hauck and Breske had offers they couldn't refuse and UM couldn't compete against those jobs.

But look at Brian Wright, he is set to make $139,000 per year at FAU. You think he would move down there and take that job if he could make the same amount in Bozeman? I doubt it. Both programs could certainly keep guys they normally wouldn't if salaries are increased to what was suggested.

[WaGriz4life]

WaGriz4life:

Please do not plagiarize my signature as a Montanan who supports your opinion. I believe in paying to keep the best, if it's monetary that makies it happen, than lets make it happen.

I was being SARCASTIC.

[wbtfg]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

Would that have kept Hauck/Breske/Smith...etc from leaving?

Probably not considering the job offers they got, but it would have at least made them think about it. Smith can't be making much more than $150,000 coaching QB's for Boise State. If he was making that in Missoula, he and his wife would have the option to stay in Missoula and not be hurting themselves financially. Hauck and Breske had offers they couldn't refuse and UM couldn't compete against those jobs.

But look at Brian Wright, he is set to make $139,000 per year at FAU. You think he would move down there and take that job if he could make the same amount in Bozeman? I doubt it. Both programs could certainly keep guys they normally wouldn't if salaries are increased to what was suggested.

It's really hard to say what Wright would have done if he were making the same kind of money in Bozeman. There are a lot of positives to going to FAU. It's a FBS program, Florida climate, no Florida income tax, Florida recruiting, Real Estate in Boca Raton is extremely affordable right now. But yeah, doubling the salary certainly makes it an easy decision, whereas he may have had to think about it longer if the salary was equal.

[getgrizzy]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

Would that have kept Hauck/Breske/Smith...etc from leaving?

Probably not considering the job offers they got, but it would have at least made them think about it. Smith can't be making much more than $150,000 coaching QB's for Boise State. If he was making that in Missoula, he and his wife would have the option to stay in Missoula and not be hurting themselves financially. Hauck and Breske had offers they couldn't refuse and UM couldn't compete against those jobs.

But look at Brian Wright, he is set to make $139,000 per year at FAU. You think he would move down there and take that job if he could make the same amount in Bozeman? I doubt it. Both programs could certainly keep guys they normally wouldn't if salaries are increased to what was suggested.

It's really hard to say what Wright would have done if he were making the same kind of money in Bozeman. There are a lot of positives to going to FAU. It's a FBS program, Florida climate, no Florida income tax, Florida recruiting, Real Estate in Boca Raton is extremely affordable right now. But yeah, doubling the salary certainly makes it an easy decision, whereas he may have had to think about it longer if the salary was equal.

i don't see what you're complaining about cuz it don't seem to be having much of an effect. this is our third guy in four years and we had one small hiccup, but that was when there was a head coach change. i think msu has had four in the last six years and they seem to get a better one each time. this last guy was awesome at weber. i wish you woulda kept wright, he didn't seem to know what was going on against good defenses the last two years.

[wbtfg]

I don't think I was complaining. I think you and I are in full agreement.

[WaGriz4life]

What Montana has been able to accomplish with all the coaching turnover is nothing short of a miracle. Continuity in coaching staffs is very important to maintaining long term success. Suggesting it doesn't matter is ridiculous.

[getgrizzy]

What Montana has been able to accomplish with all the coaching turnover is nothing short of a miracle. Continuity in coaching staffs is very important to maintaining long term success. Suggesting it doesn't matter is ridiculous.

no successful programs at any level have continuity. it goes with the territory. if you're good, you get raided.

[AllWeatherFan]

True, but there is no reason we can't pay a head coach $250,000, and the coordinators $150,000 base salaries.

Hmm. No money to elevate the program, but enough to substantially increase coaching compensation?

What I'm suggesting is small potatoes compared to what you're suggesting. If we consider ourselves a top-tier FCS program, we need to compete, salary-wise, with the big kids on the FCS block. No, there are no guarantees we'll avoid defections to FBS programs, but we can do better.

[mcg]

I'd point out that the previous coach had very little turnover on his staff.

[PlayerRep]

I'd point out that the previous coach had very little turnover on his staff.

"Very little" turnover? Schram went to Utah. 2 coaches went to Idaho, I think. Receiver coach left. Actually, I believe 2 receiver coaches left. O-line coach left. T. Hauck left. Strength coach left. esides the 2 coordinators and, was anyone on staff as a full coach for all of Hauck's 7 years. Brint or someone can probably sharpen this up a bit.

[WaGriz4life]

I'd point out that the previous coach had very little turnover on his staff.

"Very little" turnover? Schram went to Utah. 2 coaches went to Idaho, I think. Receiver coach left. Actually, I believe 2 receiver coaches left. O-line coach left. T. Hauck left. Strength coach left. esides the 2 coordinators and, was anyone on staff as a full coach for all of Hauck's 7 years. Brint or someone can probably sharpen this up a bit.

What year did Gregorek come? I dont think any coaches were with Hauck the full 7 years. That comment is just wrong. As well as the comments about this level of turnover being normal or unavoidable