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DUI.......Anyone?

PlayerRep said:
doebrmn said:
Hey PR,

Go back and read my posts. I quoted your source so if it is wrong that is your problem, not mine. Bottom line, the player put his hands on the policie officer which is an assault. If the CA decides not to charge it, so be it, but it doesn't change the fact. Being that I wasn't involved, I can only surmise that they wrote it as resisting arrest (misdemeanor) so they wouldn't have to arrest him for felony assault due to the fact it was a police officer. And again, doesn't change the fact that from day one I told you it would be plead down to a disorderly conduct (which it was) and UM came out looking like pathetic losers for the way they handled the situation.

But don't worry, the NCAA is currently doing its own investigation of how UM has handled these situations so we can let it be the final arbiter on the matter.

No, you didn't quote my source. You were just plain wrong, on multiple occasions and wouldn't back off. You lack "character" for doing that, in my view. No, there's no real evidence that the player put his hand on any police officer. It looked to me that he may have help up his hand as the police wrongfully tried to grab his cell phone, and the police officer initiated any contact.

I'm the one who said immediately that the charges would go away, or end with something very minor. Again, nothing was plead down to disorderly conduct. Two charges were completely dropped, and the disorderly conduct remained. Disorderly conduct is a total no-big-deal. It's like driving 27 in a 25.

The ncaa inquiries or asks questions of programs all the time, to see what's going on. Just because the ncaa may ask some questions doesn't mean they are doing an investigation. I can assure you that UM isn't concerned about anything the ncaa is or may be doing. And I talked to several senior administrators at UM and UM athletics about this tonight.


Spine-job half-truth #791
 
tampa_griz said:
Cats2506 said:
Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Incorrect. Gazerro had his "incident" in March 2009. He was suspended for spring practice. He did not receive any game suspensions:

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=18562&p=257440" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He played most of 2009 until he quit in November.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19949&start=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: I see what you meant. His was done after "in-season" incident.
What about the bar fight and Assault charge in Fort Benton on that prior 4th of July? ASH sure handled that one with lily white clean gloves! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
WaGriz4life said:
WILD_CAT said:
Griz 'n said:
It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

Funny how that works isn't it?
How it works at MSU too. I will bet that Trammell ends up suiting up for the Bobcats next year. He will be reinstated in the Fall and given a "2nd chance" by Pastor Ash


So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.
 
Cats2506 said:
wbtfg said:
WaGriz4life said:
KoolMoeDee said:
http://www.kpax.com/news/msu-football-player-charged-in-bar-brawl-pleads-not-guilty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Exactly.
 
WILD_CAT said:
So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.

I didn't think you kittens would allow yourselves to use the Jimmy Wilson Defense! :roll:
 
WILD_CAT said:
WaGriz4life said:
WILD_CAT said:
Griz 'n said:
It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

Funny how that works isn't it?
How it works at MSU too. I will bet that Trammell ends up suiting up for the Bobcats next year. He will be reinstated in the Fall and given a "2nd chance" by Pastor Ash


So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.


Are you suggesting that you allow the criminal justice system to work????? BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!! :roll:


Geez, I just wish people were consistent.
 
Bear Axed said:
Cats2506 said:
wbtfg said:
WaGriz4life said:
Letting the legal system run its course.

Sort of....he's essentially receiving the same treatment as Donaldson.

Would be interesting to see how it was handled if it was during season.

Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.
Which Gazzero incident and which Trammel incident are you comparing one of Gazzeros many incidents too?

saying that if trammel's thing had happened during the season it would have been similar to when gazzero got in trouble during the season (the last time), gazzeros earlier problems happened under kramer so different policy's were applied.
 
tampa_griz said:
Cats2506 said:
Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Incorrect. Gazerro had his "incident" in March 2009. He was suspended for spring practice. He did not receive any game suspensions:

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=18562&p=257440" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He played most of 2009 until he quit in November.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19949&start=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: I see what you meant. His was done after "in-season" incident.

the gazzero incident you are talking about was under Kramer, the later one was under Ash and he didnt play any more after that and eventually left the team.

So no, you really dont know what you are talking about
 
Bear Axed said:
WILD_CAT said:
So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.

I didn't think you kittens would allow yourselves to use the Jimmy Wilson Defense! :roll:

Well its different, JW is a thug, Trammel is just a tough mofo :thumb:
 
Cats2506 said:
Bear Axed said:
WILD_CAT said:
So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.

I didn't think you kittens would allow yourselves to use the Jimmy Wilson Defense! :roll:

Well its different, JW is a thug, Trammel is just a tough mofo :thumb:

Wilson isn't a thug. Why do you have to be such a jerk? Or are you always a jerk?
 
Cats2506 said:
tampa_griz said:
Cats2506 said:
Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Incorrect. Gazerro had his "incident" in March 2009. He was suspended for spring practice. He did not receive any game suspensions:

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=18562&p=257440" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He played most of 2009 until he quit in November.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19949&start=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: I see what you meant. His was done after "in-season" incident.

the gazzero incident you are talking about was under Kramer, the later one was under Ash and he didnt play any more after that and eventually left the team.

So no, you really dont know what you are talking about
The 4th of July ASSAULT arrest in Fort Benton was under ASH! which was prior to the incident that forced him off the team!

I know you kittens like to re-write history to put the best light on a not-so-Lilly-white
NCAA rules-appealing coach , but don't let the real facts get involved, just sayin'..........
 
Cats2506 said:
tampa_griz said:
Cats2506 said:
Probably would be similar to how Gazzero was handled during his in season incident, he never played again.

Incorrect. Gazerro had his "incident" in March 2009. He was suspended for spring practice. He did not receive any game suspensions:

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=18562&p=257440" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He played most of 2009 until he quit in November.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19949&start=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: I see what you meant. His was done after "in-season" incident.

the gazzero incident you are talking about was under Kramer, the later one was under Ash and he didnt play any more after that and eventually left the team.

So no, you really dont know what you are talking about

Incorrect. Rob Ash was the coach that suspended Gazzero in March 2009. He was also the coach for Montana State when Gazerro left in November 2009. For crying out loud I even provided links.
 
KoolMoeDee said:
Was he convicted for that incident or were the charges dropped ?
Does that matter? It didn't matter to you guys that Johnson and Kemp's charges got dropped, you still say they are guilty.
 
Isn't it sad that this thread has now assumed a life of its own..... two football programs from the proud state of Montana arguing about which program has the most problem athletes. Both programs have embarrassed the state on a national basis, with articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges.

If you are a Cat fan, or a Griz fan, do no attempt to lessen the impact of these issues. Stand up and be counted among the fans who are sickened by the actions of these few players, and demand that these players be removed from our respective programs.
 
Growler, post a link to an ARTICLE written about the University of Montana football program in a negative light from a national media outlet. I.E. a newspaper or magazine that reaches over 500,000 readers or the website of that outlet. And, to be clear, I said article of a national media outlet because you said "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". The Huffington Post is not a national media outlet, nor was that an article, it was a blog. The ticker on Espn. com is not an article. TMZ and Deadspin are not articles, and not national sports media outlets, they are blogs. I'll bet you I can find a video of a guy scratching his ass in front of 100 football players, coaches and athletic trainers on a hot day in Missoula, MT before you can post that article. Want to try?
 
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