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Thirteen seed!

Postby Rockygriz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:18 pm

With a dominating win over Weber, does anyone see the Griz moving up to a 13 seed? 14 in a row and 20 of 21? I think they're worthy of it. I doubt a 12 seed, but a 13 is a possibility! any thoughts?
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby YttriumGriz39 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:19 pm

Wishful thinking...
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby 503Griz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:20 pm

I can see it. If we got the 12 seed back against UNR, why not?

This team has been much more dominant.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby citay » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:22 pm

believe we were a 12 the year we beat nevada. not probable but not inconceivable. we're a better team this year, better record.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby hawaiiangriz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:24 pm

The Griz get screwed with a 13 seed after tonights perfomance. They could have beat ALOT of higher seed teams with a second half like tonight.... that was incredible to watch. I honestly feel they could have beaten a Gonzaga or another comparable team... I'm still breathless after watching that second half and I still can't believe I got to watch that......
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby HighLineGRIZ » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:26 pm

We need some good teams to lose to get even a 14 seed. Impressive 2nd half, but there are a lot of very good teams with better resumes that if they win their conference tourney will be seeded above us unfortunatly.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby Rockygriz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:27 pm

the selection committee likes hot teams. you never know. they gotta better than a 15 seed, where lunardi had them earlier in the week. They've been dominant in this league; and especially tonite.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby grizfnz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:28 pm

Get ready for first round match up with Duke, according to some bracketologists

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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby havgrizfan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:29 pm

13-14 line...nooo effin way they are a 15...
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby HighLineGRIZ » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:32 pm

Rockygriz wrote:the selection committee likes hot teams. you never know. they gotta better than a 15 seed, where lunardi had them earlier in the week. They've been dominant in this league; and especially tonite.


Very true. Problem is a lot of hot teams are winning their conference tourney. The committee also likes regional matchups so that could play in our favor as well hopefully. One of the reasons we got the 12 seed a couple of years ago was because of that reason.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby Rockygriz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:38 pm

Bucknell lost to Lehigh, and Lunardi had them as a 14. are the Griz better than Lehigh? Akron? We'll see what the committee says.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby Jaredkuehn » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:39 pm

havgrizfan wrote:13-14 line...nooo effin way they are a 15...

Not a chance this is a 15 seed team. Anything worse than 14 will be a big dissapointment.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby temp » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:45 pm

grizfnz wrote:Get ready for first round match up with Duke, according to some bracketologists

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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby mtgrizrule » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:45 pm

I feel this team is a legit 11 or 12 seed. However, reality is best we get is a 13, 14 maybe. No way we are a 15.

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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby hawaiiangriz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:58 pm

I shall 'Tebow' right now for mtgrizrule...... I agree the Griz are a legit 11 or 12 seed. How can a 14 mid major team get anything less???? Especially after tonight...but the committee wants more well known seeds and sadly the BSC may never get higher.. Interestingly Long Beach State may get a MUCH higher seed when we beat them on their HOME court??? Huh??

I am finishing my Tebow right now so give me a minute or two.....
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby PeauxRouge » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:34 pm

hawaiiangriz wrote:I shall 'Tebow' right now for mtgrizrule...... I agree the Griz are a legit 11 or 12 seed. How can a 14 mid major team get anything less???? Especially after tonight...but the committee wants more well known seeds and sadly the BSC may never get higher.. Interestingly Long Beach State may get a MUCH higher seed when we beat them on their HOME court??? Huh??

I am finishing my Tebow right now so give me a minute or two.....


We beat LBSU on OUR home court, not theirs. Still, it was a good win. The North Dakota loss is what is going to screw us if any loss does.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby jon » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:29 pm

No shot at 13, I am afraid. The quality wins are just not there outside LBSU and Weber State, and there is the bad loss to North Dakota.

Just think the Big Sky was too bad this year to get higher than a 14 without a lot of meat in the non-conference... I still see 14/15, right on the line there, in my opinion.
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Thirteen seed!

Postby EverettGriz » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:47 pm

Likely a 13. Should be a 12


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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby Potomac Griz » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:14 am

jon wrote:No shot at 13, I am afraid. The quality wins are just not there outside LBSU and Weber State, and there is the bad loss to North Dakota.

Just think the Big Sky was too bad this year to get higher than a 14 without a lot of meat in the non-conference... I still see 14/15, right on the line there, in my opinion.


We have more quality wins this year than we did in 2005-2006 when we were a 12 seed. Our only quality (top 100) win during the regular season that year was against Stanford (85). We also had 5 bad losses. Boise St (176), NAU (121), Weber (264), Idaho State (210), and Portland State (195).

In 2009-2010 when we were a 14 seed, our RPI was 90something. We had 7 bad losses, and 2 quality wins (both over weber).

This year we have 3 quality wins. LBSU (35, which is a top 50 win..that's a real good one), and 2 over Weber (68 at the moment). We do have 3 bad losses though too. ND (260), San Francisco (137) and Oregon State (147).

A 12 seed isn't out of the question. The committee loves hot teams, and there aren't many mid majors as hot as the Griz right now, winning 20 of their last 21, and 14 in a row. Our RPI was around 82 before the Weber game, so it'll probably be mid 70s. 12 or 13 is likely I'd say. 14 would be bullshit...and a 15 would be reason to get out the pitch forks and torches.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby HighLineGRIZ » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:23 am

11 or 12 seed? No way. We are in 13 or 14 seed range here is our competion for those seeds as projected by ESPN (not going to post 11 & 12 seeds, we aren't in there league resume wise):

Projected 13 seeds
South Dakota State: 25-7 (w. 19 pt win over Washington who was Pac12 reg season champs) 49 rpi
VCU: 28-6, 38 rpi
Nevada: 25-5 (w. win over Montana) 46 rpi
2 play in at large teams

Projected 14 seeds
Belmont: 27-7 (w. 1 pt loss to Duke) rpi 61
Davidson: 25-7 ( w. win over Kansas) rpi 65
Akron: 21-10, rpi 62
Bucknell 24-9, rpi 84

Montana, 25-6, rpi 82, 223rd SOS, 1-2 against rpi top 50, 3-3 agains rpi top 100 (w. 2 of those over Weber)

We look good right now, but we play in a weak conference with a weak schedule. Not going to impress objective committee members, of which most haven't seen us play. They look at the numbers and impressive wins and bad losses (body of work). Weber State isn't going to get their attention. Long Beach State really is our only big win. 14 strait wins will help. North Dakota was a bad loss. I predict a 14 seed. 13 seed would be a welcome surprise.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby Inland NW Griz » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:24 am

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grizfnz wrote:Get ready for first round match up with Duke, according to some bracketologists

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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby mtgrizrule » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:29 am

I am sticking with 13, and hoping the teams we played this year, with conference tournaments left to play, will win a few games to help our RPI. Also hoping the remaining mid majors we have not played will choke in their tournament games. Basically, lesser teams win tournaments to fill lower seeds, and put us in a better seed.
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby Potomac Griz » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:31 am

HighLineGRIZ wrote:11 or 12 seed? No way. We are in 13 or 14 seed range here is our competion for those seeds as projected by ESPN (not going to post 11 & 12 seeds, we aren't in there league resume wise):

Projected 13 seeds
South Dakota State: 25-7 (w. 19 pt win over Washington who was Pac12 reg season champs) 49 rpi
VCU: 28-6, 38 rpi
Nevada: 25-5 (w. win over Montana) 46 rpi
2 play in at large teams

Projected 14 seeds
Belmont: 27-7 (w. 1 pt loss to Duke) rpi 61
Davidson: 25-7 ( w. win over Kansas) rpi 65
Akron: 21-10, rpi 62
Bucknell 24-9, rpi 84

Montana, 25-6, rpi 82, 223rd SOS, 1-2 against rpi top 50, 3-3 agains rpi top 100 (w. 2 of those over Weber)

We look good right now, but we play in a weak conference with a weak schedule. Not going to impress objective committee members, of which most haven't seen us play. They look at the numbers and impressive wins and bad losses (body of work). Weber State isn't going to get their attention. Long Beach State really is our only big win. 14 strait wins will help. North Dakota was a bad loss. I predict a 14 seed. 13 seed would be a welcome surprise.



South Dakota State also lost to North Dakota...by 19. They have 6 other "bad" losses including a loss to South Dakota (who has a worse RPI than North Dakota).

One thing the committee has shown these past few years is RPI doesn't mean everything. So while a few of our losses early in the season look bad... many of the other 12, 13 and 14 seeds have just as bad of losses if not worse (or more). Finishing the season 20-1 with a 14 game winning stream has to turn some heads and get us a little boost with the committee...

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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby GrizLA » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:53 am

PeauxRouge wrote:
hawaiiangriz wrote:I shall 'Tebow' right now for mtgrizrule...... I agree the Griz are a legit 11 or 12 seed. How can a 14 mid major team get anything less???? Especially after tonight...but the committee wants more well known seeds and sadly the BSC may never get higher.. Interestingly Long Beach State may get a MUCH higher seed when we beat them on their HOME court??? Huh??

I am finishing my Tebow right now so give me a minute or two.....


We beat LBSU on OUR home court, not theirs. Still, it was a good win. The North Dakota loss is what is going to screw us if any loss does.

Long Beach is falling fast..going into their conf. tourney, their big guy rolled his ankle and will not play..Fullerton is the favorite..and Long Beach's win at Pitt is looking weaker...But, why those two are fading, UM and Weber both gave a show tonight that the Big Sky is no joke...Montana especially looked better than anyone on TV this day...maybe the place LB is taking will be a slot for the Griz...would love to see both of them, but....
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Re: Thirteen seed!

Postby GrizLA » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:55 am

temp wrote:
grizfnz wrote:Get ready for first round match up with Duke, according to some bracketologists

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SWEET!!! We'd kick the sh** out of Duke!

True, but would the Griz beat them on the court...
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