EWURanger29 wrote:kemajic wrote:Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:kemajic wrote:Most relevant is the last sentence.
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Kind of like how the Griz were 6-4 against FCS competition and missed out on the playoffs in 2010? Try again little man.
Not really. 6-5 for EWU was a normal year. 7-4 for UM was not.
Seasons with 5 or more losses:
EWU: 11 of the last 19; 88 losses (4.8/yr)
UM: 0 of the last 19; 49 losses (2.6/yr)
Interesting that you only went back 19 years...why not go back an even 20? Why not go back to the 80's? You choose to pick a time-frame which is consistent with when UM started winning. My guess is that Montana must have had a losing season in '92, while Eastern won a Big Sky title that year. I'd have to look, but that's just a guess since you sometimes have a tendancy to cherry-pick stats.
But anyway, 20 years ago is ancient history. To my knowledge, Eastern wasn't even a fully funded program in the early 90's. Yeah, the program had a couple Big Sky championships and playoff runs before then, but modern history for EWU started in 2004. Just as the Griz didn't really become relevant in 1-AA football until the early to mid 90's, it took EWU approximately 10 years longer to start winning with any amount of consistency. So you can continue to bring up ancient history if you like, but what matters most is what's happened recently.
2004 - 9-4 (playoffs)
2005 - 7-5 (playoffs)
2006 - 3-8
2007 - 9-4 (playoffs)
2008 - 6-5
2009 - 8-4 (playoffs)
2010 - 13-2 (playoffs)
2011 - 6-5
Comparing winning percentages is great, but a little perspective is needed. No offense to UM, but most years Eastern isn't playing Fort Lewis or Western State at home. So if you consider that Eastern had a considerably more difficult non-conference schedule most of those years than Montana, that's not a bad run. Many of those schedules included games against 2 FBS teams, which Montana has the benefit of not having to schedule. Had Eastern not played two Big 12 teams in 2008, an had instead played an FCS, that most likely would have been a playoff year as well. Scheduling benefits and home games are huge.
You put a lot energy trying to fight simple facts, but let's go another round. OK, let's look at your preferred span comparatively and see if the conclusion is any different.
2004 - 9-4 (playoffs) UM 12-3 (playoffs)
2005 - 7-5 (playoffs) UM 8-4 (playoffs)
2006 - 3-8 !!!!! UM 12-2 (playoffs)
2007 - 9-4 (playoffs) UM 11-1 (playoffs)
2008 - 6-5 UM 14-2 (playoffs)
2009 - 8-4 (playoffs) UM 14-1 (playoffs)
2010 - 13-2 (playoffs) UM 7-4
2011 - 6-5 UM 11-3 (playoffs)
Overall EWU 61-33; UM 89-20. Same conclusion.
Cupcake games, you mention, UM played six - Ft. Lewis and Western St. twice and CWU and W. Oregon once. EWU played seven - CWU three times (losing once), W. Oregon twice, W. Washington (since dropping FB), and even dipping into a poor NAIA team in W. Montana. So much for that argument. I hope both programs are finished with this. Regarding injuries, the 2011 EWU team suffered from this problem, but the 2010 Montana team did not?
Just to correct your poor grasp of history, Montana started winning and was a national factor in 1-AA long before the mid-90's and it's last losing season was 1985.
Insecure is coming onto an opponent's forum and overselling a good product as a superior product, which the facts disprove again and again. That goes also for CPSLO, since you couldn't resist butting in.