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Postby stubbins » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:31 pm

Does anybody know who and what positions we have coming in next year....or is it too early?
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Re: Recruits

Postby MtTarheel » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:39 pm

Andy Martin a 7 foot 225 lb. center from wyoming who is attending a military prep school is wisconsin(a 5th year of high school) good defender and shot blocker. needs to get stronger and develop an offensive game. long term potential.

Jake Wiley 6'6"/ 6'7" combo forward from washington. has no real position but is a big time athelete and real good defender. needs to get stronger and figure out what he is but he has big time upside.

we also have 2 more schollies to offer. hopin for a juco big that can board and score right away.
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Re: Recruits

Postby WyomingGrizFan » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:16 pm

MtTarheel wrote:we also have 2 more schollies to offer. hopin for a juco big that can board and score right away.

Hoping for a couple of those myself, if that's at all possible. At least someone that isn't afraid of his own shadow once he hits the court.
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Re: Recruits

Postby Gallatin Griz » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:12 am

A question for those "in the know" or who have observed much Griz practice - Does walkon Nick Emerson have a chance to receive a scholarship? Will he still be with the team next season? It would be nice to have one MT lad on the team. Just curious. Thanks ahead of time.

And please don't turn this into a urination competition about who knows who and who should shut up about it.

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Re: Recruits

Postby Evizzerate » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:20 am

I haven't seen Emerson play since the 2 scrimmages. At that very early point in his career he looked great. Very confident and had a nice shot.
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Re: Recruits

Postby PeauxRouge » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:19 pm

I imagine this is a typo and may be an actual player for the Cats, but Yahoo has him on our roster, so, who is Morgan Young there at the bottom?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... mbm/roster
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Re: Recruits

Postby mtgrizrule » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:23 pm

PeauxRouge wrote:I imagine this is a typo and may be an actual player for the Cats, but Yahoo has him on our roster, so, who is Morgan Young there at the bottom?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... mbm/roster


Not a typo, a walk on for the GRIZ this year. Not sure how he did. He is in the GRIZ team picture in the NCAA media guide, but not listed on the roster though.
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Re: Recruits

Postby temp » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:55 pm

PeauxRouge wrote:I imagine this is a typo and may be an actual player for the Cats, but Yahoo has him on our roster, so, who is Morgan Young there at the bottom?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... mbm/roster


He was suited up and on the bench for all of the home games. I have not heard anything about him and I don't recall him being discussed on here. Come to think of it, I don't recall hearing about him in high school either.
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Re: Recruits

Postby Evizzerate » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:27 am

Andy Martin, #42 in Black , recent game against Brewster. I haven't watched the whole thing yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qMOSyqR7M
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Re: Recruits

Postby becker2117 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:37 am

Gallatin Griz wrote:A question for those "in the know" or who have observed much Griz practice - Does walkon Nick Emerson have a chance to receive a scholarship? Will he still be with the team next season? It would be nice to have one MT lad on the team. Just curious. Thanks ahead of time.

And please don't turn this into a urination competition about who knows who and who should shut up about it.

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i dont have any thing to give other than an opinion, but i would think he is on the team next year....he has a great looking shot, 6'5 and he seems very athletic..i only saw him during warm ups so its hard to know based off that, but he looks like he has a lot of potential
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Re: Recruits

Postby MtTarheel » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:57 pm

Evizzerate wrote:Andy Martin, #42 in Black , recent game against Brewster. I haven't watched the whole thing yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qMOSyqR7M



I like the kid who uploaded the video selling/describing himself in the description under video. Also a couple blue chip recruits play for brewster, mitch mcgary #33, committed to michigan and tj warren #32, to nc state. both were recruited and offered by my tar heels. so i like the competition he is facing.
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Re: Recruits

Postby dancingbear » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:34 pm

Morgan Young is a walk on from Lustre who I believe attended an out of state prep school. He has a reputation as a shooter but watching him shoot and move during warm ups makes me think he may have trouble adjusting to the speed of the college game. Just my observation and I could be totally wrong. My apologies to Morgan if I'm off base.
On the other hand the coaching staff is pretty excited about Nick Emerson and feel that got a steal when he decided to walk on. He has good court sense and a nice looking three ball. Don't be surprised if he is given a scholarship before next year.
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Re: Recruits

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:48 pm

MtTarheel wrote:
Evizzerate wrote:Andy Martin, #42 in Black , recent game against Brewster. I haven't watched the whole thing yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qMOSyqR7M



I like the kid who uploaded the video selling/describing himself in the description under video. Also a couple blue chip recruits play for brewster, mitch mcgary #33, committed to michigan and tj warren #32, to nc state. both were recruited and offered by my tar heels. so i like the competition he is facing.


Well, I know you can't teach height, but he looked slow and outclassed, IMHO (realizing he's a "project').
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Re: Recruits

Postby GrizDDS » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:18 pm

Can a prep school recruit be redshirted or does the prep school year count as a redshirt? They say you have 5 years to play 4 seasons and the clock starts ticking when you graduate. I'm assuming that's HS, not prep school, right?
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Re: Recruits

Postby wbtfg » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:50 am

GrizDDS wrote:Can a prep school recruit be redshirted or does the prep school year count as a redshirt? They say you have 5 years to play 4 seasons and the clock starts ticking when you graduate. I'm assuming that's HS, not prep school, right?


Prep school is the same.

You have 5 years to play 4 once you enroll in college. Prep school isn't considered college.
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Re: Recruits

Postby Grizfan-24 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:03 am

Az,

I agree and disagree with your assesment on Martin. I saw two things that impressed me about the kid, he can run the floor. Most 7 footers have to be yanked up the floor in high school, and he doesn't. He has good laterlal movment. He isn't a bolted in the paint and he isn't afraid to be physical. He lost most of those battles.

That being said, at this moment, he needs to put on a ton of strength. He isn't an offensive threat, but that offensive system they ran was brutal. They are using a 7 foot kid to make picks 25 feet away from the basket. He didn't get very many touches where he could display post moves.

On another note, what is with the officiating in that league. Pretty brutal. The martin kid sets a viable screen, and to get to the shot those kids just made bull runs through the kid. Last time I checked from my own officiating handbook, that is a foul. On another occasion, a kid gets tackled in the key, ball goes out of bounds and the ball goes the other way.

If I were get an impression about this league and team, these kids are showing off to recruiters to get schollies. Lots of individual break downs on offense, some terrible examples of defense. For the most part I thought Martin played within himself.

I like the kid. Doesn't strike me as terrible, but I think he probably needs a year of weights in his lower body to be more effective.
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Re: Recruits

Postby temp » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:35 am

Here are a couple targets for the spring that I lifted them from the mslacat. I looked for video and couldn't find any on either of them.

Edrico McGregor 6'8" pf/c from North Idaho College.
http://www.nicathletics.com/MensSports/Basketball/Roster.aspx


Rafriel Guthrie 6'2" g from South Idaho College.
http://magicvalley.com/sports/southern-idaho-s-guthrie-is-all-business/article_c828be62-222a-11e1-a31d-0019bb2963f4.html
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Re: Recruits

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:00 am

Grizfan-24 wrote:Az,

I agree and disagree with your assesment on Martin. I saw two things that impressed me about the kid, he can run the floor. Most 7 footers have to be yanked up the floor in high school, and he doesn't. He has good laterlal movment. He isn't a bolted in the paint and he isn't afraid to be physical. He lost most of those battles.

That being said, at this moment, he needs to put on a ton of strength. He isn't an offensive threat, but that offensive system they ran was brutal. They are using a 7 foot kid to make picks 25 feet away from the basket. He didn't get very many touches where he could display post moves.

On another note, what is with the officiating in that league. Pretty brutal. The martin kid sets a viable screen, and to get to the shot those kids just made bull runs through the kid. Last time I checked from my own officiating handbook, that is a foul. On another occasion, a kid gets tackled in the key, ball goes out of bounds and the ball goes the other way.

If I were get an impression about this league and team, these kids are showing off to recruiters to get schollies. Lots of individual break downs on offense, some terrible examples of defense. For the most part I thought Martin played within himself.

I like the kid. Doesn't strike me as terrible, but I think he probably needs a year of weights in his lower body to be more effective.
He is a project, but I am not sure he is in the area of Don Carter project.


I agree. He wasn't uncoordinated. He was soft, but the reffing was brutal. At one point he gets knocked about 15 feet on his ass when setting a screen, but no foul called. In fact, I don't think there was a foul called in the 10+ minutes of video I watched.

Come in, RS, hit the weights...would sure love to see some video where he actually touches the ball. :?
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Re: Recruits

Postby PeauxRouge » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:19 am

temp wrote:Here are a couple targets for the spring that I lifted them from the mslacat. I looked for video and couldn't find any on either of them.

Edrico McGregor 6'8" pf/c from North Idaho College.
http://www.nicathletics.com/MensSports/Basketball/Roster.aspx


Rafriel Guthrie 6'2" g from South Idaho College.
http://magicvalley.com/sports/southern-idaho-s-guthrie-is-all-business/article_c828be62-222a-11e1-a31d-0019bb2963f4.html


Sounds like Rafriel and Keron have a lot in common. If he winds up here it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
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Re: Recruits

Postby IntuitiveGriz » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:16 pm

wbtfg wrote:
GrizDDS wrote:Can a prep school recruit be redshirted or does the prep school year count as a redshirt? They say you have 5 years to play 4 seasons and the clock starts ticking when you graduate. I'm assuming that's HS, not prep school, right?


Prep school is the same.

You have 5 years to play 4 once you enroll in college. Prep school isn't considered college.



Prep school (which is basically a 5th yr of HS) does not start the NCAA clock. Nor does just enrolling in college, if you just enroll part-time (less than 12 credits) that is.

The clock only starts once a student enrolls full-time at a college (JC or 4-yr institution).
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Re: Recruits

Postby MtTarheel » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:31 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizfan-24 wrote:Az,

I agree and disagree with your assesment on Martin. I saw two things that impressed me about the kid, he can run the floor. Most 7 footers have to be yanked up the floor in high school, and he doesn't. He has good laterlal movment. He isn't a bolted in the paint and he isn't afraid to be physical. He lost most of those battles.

That being said, at this moment, he needs to put on a ton of strength. He isn't an offensive threat, but that offensive system they ran was brutal. They are using a 7 foot kid to make picks 25 feet away from the basket. He didn't get very many touches where he could display post moves.

On another note, what is with the officiating in that league. Pretty brutal. The martin kid sets a viable screen, and to get to the shot those kids just made bull runs through the kid. Last time I checked from my own officiating handbook, that is a foul. On another occasion, a kid gets tackled in the key, ball goes out of bounds and the ball goes the other way.

If I were get an impression about this league and team, these kids are showing off to recruiters to get schollies. Lots of individual break downs on offense, some terrible examples of defense. For the most part I thought Martin played within himself.

I like the kid. Doesn't strike me as terrible, but I think he probably needs a year of weights in his lower body to be more effective.
He is a project, but I am not sure he is in the area of Don Carter project.


I agree. He wasn't uncoordinated. He was soft, but the reffing was brutal. At one point he gets knocked about 15 feet on his ass when setting a screen, but no foul called. In fact, I don't think there was a foul called in the 10+ minutes of video I watched.

Come in, RS, hit the weights...would sure love to see some video where he actually touches the ball. :?


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Re: Recruits

Postby Evizzerate » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:28 pm

Long shot:
Tinkle needs to get on the horn to a great baller, Trey Zeigler who is transferring from Central Michigan after his father Ernie was fired as coach. Tinkle needs another veteran assistant coach and he might as well make it a package deal for the 4 star kid and the coach.
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Re: Recruits

Postby Griz1 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:24 pm

Evizzerate wrote:Long shot:
Tinkle needs to get on the horn to a great baller, Trey Zeigler who is transferring from Central Michigan after his father Ernie was fired as coach. Tinkle needs another veteran assistant coach and he might as well make it a package deal for the 4 star kid and the coach.


We don't need a scholarship guard to sit out next year as we have good guards in my opinion. We need a 6-8 to 6-10 wide body, banger who can defend and rebound.

As an aside I am not high on this Martin kid. I have been wrong before and I hope I am again but he appears to be very soft, can't get a board and never touches the ball on offense so its difficult to see his offensive skills. I noticed in the stats of one game in November he got 3 minutes (not what I would expect from a Division 1 recruit) and no stats. On another 3 minute video he did absolutely nothing. Let me say again I hope I am wrong but I think the 7 footer that we had from Australia looked better than this kid and we know that was a bust.
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Re: Recruits

Postby mtgrizrule » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:46 pm

I fully agree, No more guards for next season! We are loaded there. I honestly want to see an effective post scorer, and board eater 6'8" or better, that will bring some toughness. The last few years our toughest guys have been Stockton, Steward, Vassy Banny (sp?), basically 6'5" or shorter guys.

Cherry and Steward are tough too. I want an "attitude, and heart" big man. I will save my comments on Martin, until I see more. The one thing I do like is he does move well for a big. Then again, I am not a fan of the big loathes either.

Also, would love to see Emerson earn a scholarship. I like what I have seen, and heard of this kid. :thumb: 6'4" to 6'6" guys that can play 3 positions are always a luxury to have at any level. :thumb:
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Re: Recruits

Postby mtgrizrule » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:51 pm

PeauxRouge wrote:
temp wrote:Here are a couple targets for the spring that I lifted them from the mslacat. I looked for video and couldn't find any on either of them.

Edrico McGregor 6'8" pf/c from North Idaho College.
http://www.nicathletics.com/MensSports/Basketball/Roster.aspx


Rafriel Guthrie 6'2" g from South Idaho College.
http://magicvalley.com/sports/southern-idaho-s-guthrie-is-all-business/article_c828be62-222a-11e1-a31d-0019bb2963f4.html


Sounds like Rafriel and Keron have a lot in common. If he winds up here it will be interesting to see how that plays out.



McGregor yes......no offense to Guthrie, how many guards does a team need? We have enough guards already.

Speaking of transfers, 3 guys are leaving leaving Michigan, and 1 is leaving Connecticut.

http://www.examiner.com/university-of-m ... l-transfer

2 Carlton Brundidge 6-1 190 Guard FR Southfield, Mich. (Southfield HS)
23 Evan Smotrycz 6-9 235 Forward SO Reading, Mass. (New Hampton Prep [N.H.])
45 Colton Christian 6-6 215 Forward SO Bellevue, Wash. (Hargrave Military Academy [Va.])

I would be looking at Smotrycz and Christian, for who could help our needs. Christian is Washington boy too. At least send out some feelers to them. :thumb:

Here is an article on the Connecticut transfer, 1 year of eligibility for us to build our other bigs, I would like this. http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... 2qXudV4qJk
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