Spanky2 said:Good points Payton, but the Summit Conference isn’t an improvement over the Big Sky. The Mountain West Conference would be an improvement. Hopefully, our new president will look at the Mountain West.Paytonlives said:Spanky2 said:Are you suggesting that would be a good conference for the University of Montana?Paytonlives said:UM will never move to a conference East of Bozoman.
It makes zero sense
Financially
Rivalries
Historically
In A perfect world the Bigsky would be (5 sets of traveling partners). The others can go pound sand.
Leaving a 9 game conference for football and a 18 game conference for basketball. (But then when has the powers that be in the BSC, had any great ideas?)
1-UM
1-msu
2-EWU
2-Idaho
3-Weber
3-ISU
4-NAU
4-Southern Utah
5-PSU
5- (TDB) Central Washington?
Nope... I hate the state of the BS Conference. Way too many teams, unbalanced scheduling, poor leadership, schools with pathetic facilities, and schools that should be in a lower division.
But IF UM stays in this division (I still believe there will be a division between FBS & FCS) regionalizing makes way more sense for travel and rivalries. And yes I know why the BS has the Cali schools (for recruiting) but in reality they are not a good fit otherwise.
WHere was the poster who gave credence to this? Besides me.AZGrizFan said:I can’t believe 7 pages later and we’re still giving this any credence...
UNDfan said:WHere was the poster who gave credence to this? Besides me.AZGrizFan said:I can’t believe 7 pages later and we’re still giving this any credence...
The Griz used to be on the plains but there were run off and shot just like your teams. The found shelter in the mountains where farmers and trappers could not get them.
Maybe you should change their names to the Panda Bears, who only wander near their home and eat sprouts and smoke Jane like in Missoula.
UNDfan said:WHere was the poster who gave credence to this? Besides me.AZGrizFan said:I can’t believe 7 pages later and we’re still giving this any credence...
He is their recruiting agent.'68griz said:I wish the Summit League would call UNDfan and take him away.
There are two reasons the BSC passed on admission of NDSU and SDSU. PSU, SacSt, EWU and NAU voiced logical objection to the increase in travel cost. But a dirty little secret was that the Presidents of the wannabe members feared that adding NDSU and SDSU would raise the competitive bar and force them to invest more in their AD. When nerf-man commissioner Fullerton provided an alternative by proposing adding another wannabe, UNC, instead, they jumped at it.UNDfan said:Word on the street was that Dennison and Cruzado badly wanted NDSU and SDSU when they applied for Big Sky membership. The rest of the Big Sky voted in Northern Colorado, because they were so afraid the the Montanas would elope with the Dakotas and start a new conference.
Five years later, the Montanas had to threaten to go to the WAC, and as a consolation prize got invites to UND and USD if they stayed. The Montanas did a fake out for the WAC and go what they really wanted.
Montana Presidents just love the Dakota schools as they are very similar to the Montana ones, unlike the rest of the Big Sigh. The new Summit will be like the PAC10 and Big 10 academically for those member states, including Idaho. Conferences want similar schools in the conference - that’s why the originally formed. That’s why Boise St or BYU are never getting invited to the PAC10 as athletics has nothing to do with it.
Northern Iowa was in a conference with the Dakotas for fifty years, but in the late ‘70’s, the Mid Con formed with eastern Midwest teams like Valpo, Ill-Chicago, Cleveland St, Wright St etc and UNI had no choice if they wanted DI because the rest of the conference wouldn’t take the Dakotas. Conferences change structure and this one is coming.
The more southern Big Sigh schools have blocked the Montanas from joining the Dakotas for almost forty years. The time is coming when the Montanas choose there own destiny, and not be tied down by what Idaho St, NAU and Southern Utah mandate for them.
Precisely why the next move is to expand and split the BSC for football into north and south conferences as previously posted.UNDfan said:The more southern Big Sigh schools have blocked the Montanas from joining the Dakotas for almost forty years. The time is coming when the Montanas choose there own destiny, and not be tied down by what Idaho St, NAU and Southern Utah mandate for them.
Spanky2 said:Having Central Washington and Dixie State in the conference world is somehow an improvement or positive?
A definite improvement is to achieve balanced schedules and playing each member every year. Their objective is to reduce travel cost and improve regional rivalries, not to pass Spanky muster on what constitutes a good conference. With the financial state of UM, what is your plan that achieves their objectives and passes Spanky muster?Spanky2 said:How? Why? Just two new Division2 type schools for Montana to play. As a whole or split in half, the Big Sky is a bad conference.
So you mention CWU and Dixie, but not NMSU? Hmmm...Spanky2 said:Having Central Washington and Dixie State in the conference world is somehow an improvement or positive?
Well, Kem, you seem to think this realignment will somehow improve a weak conference, even by adding additional weak sisters. Please explain why you take this position. Oh, by the way, I’m well aware of the financial plight of UM. Since you are a chemist, you likely don’t realize when you are in a weak position, it’s time to take an aggressive posture. Muster?kemajic said:A definite improvement is to achieve balanced schedules and playing each member every year. Their objective is to reduce travel cost and improve regional rivalries, not to pass Spanky muster on what constitutes a good conference. With the financial state of UM, what is your plan that achieves their objectives and passes Spanky muster?Spanky2 said:How? Why? Just two new Division2 type schools for Montana to play. As a whole or split in half, the Big Sky is a bad conference.