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NILand Portal - Lane Kiffin's Views

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‘Professional’ players, ‘owner’ donors: Lane Kiffin gets candid on NIL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/05/26/lane-kiffin-nil-sports-illustrated-interview/

"Thanks to a pair of major changes enacted by the NCAA last year, college athletes now have a transfer portal that looks a lot like free agency, and an opportunity to profit from their names, images and likenesses that marks a sharp break from lingering notions of amateurism."

"“We’re a professional sport,” the Mississippi coach said in recent comments published by Sports Illustrated, “and they are professional players.”

“It’s totally changed recruiting,” he said. “I joke all the time about it. Facilities and all that. Go ahead and build facilities and these great weight rooms and training rooms, but you ain’t gonna have any good players in them if you don’t have NIL money. I don’t care who the coach is or how hard you recruit, that is not going to win over money.”

Kiffin chose a different description: “You basically made what was cheating before legal.”

His on-the-record assessment jibed with a recent report that some in the coaching community are joking that NIL stands for, “Now, it’s legal!”

“People are going to criticize me for saying that ‘people are paying them to come in’ by saying that’s not what is happening,” he told SI. “That is exactly what’s happening.”

Big-money boosters have always had a say in the direction of major programs, but apart from under-the-table arrangements with recruits, their influence has often been publicly reflected in a willingness to put together the piles of cash necessary to hire — and then buy out — big-name coaches. Now, Kiffin noted, donors have goals they want to see coaches deliver that don’t necessarily have to do wins, losses and bowl games.

“Let’s say reports are true, and some high school quarterback is making $6 to $8 million,” Kiffin said. “ … Are the coaches going to need to play him, or are donors going to be mad when he’s not playing — the first-round pick that the donor drafts. I’ve been in that situation. The people paying that are going to want that guy to play. If he’s not playing, how is the backup quarterback who is earning just a scholarship check going to play over him?”

“I’ve been there, where the owner calls and says, ‘We need to play this guy!’ And I say, ‘No, we need to play this other guy.’ I’ll tell you what happens — you get fired,” Kiffin told SI. “ … What’s going to happen when the lead donor calls and says to play this guy, and you don’t — do you not get fired?”

“If you are advising Bryce Young,” Kiffin said to SI, “why do you not go into the portal and walk into Nick Saban’s office and say, ‘Hey, I want to be here, but I’ve got to protect myself so I’m going to go into the portal. And I want to come back as long as it’s matched with what I get out there.’ The kid would make 10 times what he would have made. How’s that not going to happen all the time? It should. It will.”
 
behappp said:
Bring on the popcorn - this is going to get verrry interesting.
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.
 
kemajic said:
behappp said:
Bring on the popcorn - this is going to get verrry interesting.
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.

Watching the effects that will come NIL are going to be fascinating.
Have any FCS schools made the news for some deep pocketed boosters stepping up?
Or is it just the usual suspects?
 
Programs are going to be paying to get players!! This is lunacy the likes of which we’ve never seen! College football was so pure before this.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Programs are going to be paying to get players!! This is lunacy the likes of which we’ve never seen! College football was so pure before this.

It was so great under Socialism. Now Capitalism enters and all hell is going to break loose.
 
behappp said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Programs are going to be paying to get players!! This is lunacy the likes of which we’ve never seen! College football was so pure before this.

It was so great under Socialism. Now Capitalism enters and all hell is going to break loose.

Right?! Take college bball for instance. Chris Webber got 280k from boosters from 1988 to 1993 starting in his frosh year of HS to make sure he played at Michigan. Adjusted for inflation, that’s just a modest ~690k. Those are the days I miss. In those days, top recruits went wherever offered the most money. Now, top recruits are just going to go to wherever offers the most money. It’s ruining the purity of the game.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
behappp said:
It was so great under Socialism. Now Capitalism enters and all hell is going to break loose.

Right?! Take college bball for instance. Chris Webber got 280k from boosters from 1988 to 1993 starting in his frosh year of HS to make sure he played at Michigan. Adjusted for inflation, that’s just a modest ~690k. Those are the days I miss. In those days, top recruits went wherever offered the most money. Now, top recruits are just going to go to wherever offers the most money. It’s ruining the purity of the game.

Yes, before it was just hot dogs and water at UM. What were the guys, like Peter Nguyen, thinking? Jean Gee sure knew how to track down the big violations. I hope this wasn't true, but I heard that players sometimes got free drinks at the Mo Club and Stocks.

I agree with AZ that the open portal and NIL are having, and will have, a huge negative impact on college sports. I wonder if some lesser schools will eventually drop sports. It's going to be hard to argue that college sports are part of college and academic mission, as opposed to minor leagues for the professional sports, and that players are "student-athletes". Will EWU sports survive? What's the argument for diverting a bunch of money from academics to athletics there?
 
CDAGRIZ said:
behappp said:
It was so great under Socialism. Now Capitalism enters and all hell is going to break loose.

Right?! Take college bball for instance. Chris Webber got 280k from boosters from 1988 to 1993 starting in his frosh year of HS to make sure he played at Michigan. Adjusted for inflation, that’s just a modest ~690k. Those are the days I miss. In those days, top recruits went wherever offered the most money. Now, top recruits are just going to go to wherever offers the most money. It’s ruining the purity of the game.

Harrumpfh!!!
 
kemajic said:
behappp said:
Bring on the popcorn - this is going to get verrry interesting.
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.

While I agree fully with your sentiments on NIL, the suggestion that the NFL isn’t interesting vis a vis college football is laughable. More viewers watched the NFL draft then all of the non-new years day bowls combined.

You may not like it for whatever reason, but the NFL is anything but non-interesting.
 
kemajic said:
behappp said:
Bring on the popcorn - this is going to get verrry interesting.
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.

NFL had 75 out the top 100 most watched television programs of 2021. It is way more popular than college football. The Top 5 most-watched programs were the Super Bowl, NFC Championship, AFC Championship, Raiders-Cowboys Thanksgiving game and the Buccaneers-Saints NFC divisional round game.

Out of the Top 100, beyond the 75 that were NFL games, 11 were events from the Tokyo Olympics, seven were college football games and two were NCAA basketball games. The NBA, MLB and NHL did not put any games in the Top 100.
 
EverettGriz said:
kemajic said:
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.

While I agree fully with your sentiments on NIL, the suggestion that the NFL isn’t interesting vis a vis college football is laughable. More viewers watched the NFL draft then all of the non-new years day bowls combined.

You may not like it for whatever reason, but the NFL is anything but non-interesting.

But it’s cool and edgy to express dislike for extremely popular things. It shows everyone that you’re unique. Junior year is going to kick ass.
 
kemajic said:
behappp said:
Bring on the popcorn - this is going to get verrry interesting.
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.

...once Jon Gruden lawsuit gets going it could get very interesting... :shock:
 
UncleRico said:
kemajic said:
The NFL is no longer interesting. The NBA is no longer interesting. Movement toward them is not going to increase interest in college football, particularly FCS, the have-nots.

NFL had 75 out the top 100 most watched television programs of 2021. It is way more popular than college football. The Top 5 most-watched programs were the Super Bowl, NFC Championship, AFC Championship, Raiders-Cowboys Thanksgiving game and the Buccaneers-Saints NFC divisional round game.

Out of the Top 100, beyond the 75 that were NFL games, 11 were events from the Tokyo Olympics, seven were college football games and two were NCAA basketball games. The NBA, MLB and NHL did not put any games in the Top 100.
For you NFL fans, it gets even more interesting with Kaepernick working out with the Raiders. That's where it's at.
 
kemajic said:
UncleRico said:
NFL had 75 out the top 100 most watched television programs of 2021. It is way more popular than college football. The Top 5 most-watched programs were the Super Bowl, NFC Championship, AFC Championship, Raiders-Cowboys Thanksgiving game and the Buccaneers-Saints NFC divisional round game.

Out of the Top 100, beyond the 75 that were NFL games, 11 were events from the Tokyo Olympics, seven were college football games and two were NCAA basketball games. The NBA, MLB and NHL did not put any games in the Top 100.
For you NFL fans, it gets even more interesting with Kaepernick working out with the Raiders. That's where it's at.

OFFS
 
Imagine not watching the NFL because you disagree with a guy who hasn’t played in like seven years. I know several people like that. They just let one dude break their brains so they gave up something they enjoy. Sad.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Imagine not watching the NFL because you disagree with a guy who hasn’t played in like seven years. I know several people like that. They just let one dude break their brains so they gave up something they enjoy. Sad.

Bet many of them are closet nfl fans though.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Imagine not watching the NFL because you disagree with a guy who hasn’t played in like seven years. I know several people like that. They just let one dude break their brains so they gave up something they enjoy. Sad.

Bet many of them are closet nfl fans though.

Probably, but they really think the NFL gives a fuck about them not watching. It’s wild how important some people think they are. It’s like when people tried to start a movement to boycott The Masters back in the day. Augusta pretty much said, “Aw, how cute.”
 
kemajic said:
UncleRico said:
NFL had 75 out the top 100 most watched television programs of 2021. It is way more popular than college football. The Top 5 most-watched programs were the Super Bowl, NFC Championship, AFC Championship, Raiders-Cowboys Thanksgiving game and the Buccaneers-Saints NFC divisional round game.

Out of the Top 100, beyond the 75 that were NFL games, 11 were events from the Tokyo Olympics, seven were college football games and two were NCAA basketball games. The NBA, MLB and NHL did not put any games in the Top 100.
For you NFL fans, it gets even more interesting with Kaepernick working out with the Raiders. That's where it's at.

Not a big deal for most NFL fans. Obviously the never watching the NFL anymore crowd was pretty small. Whole lotta fake rage.
 
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