mthoopsfan
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41>37 said:Got to be the all time leader in missed tackles without cooking the books.
Is that why he was a first-team all conference safety?
41>37 said:Got to be the all time leader in missed tackles without cooking the books.
mthoopsfan said:41>37 said:Got to be the all time leader in missed tackles without cooking the books.
Is that why he was a first-team all conference safety?
Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.Walkon79 said:WaGriz4life said:It’s not the head coach. Whole accusation of Bobby Hauck being in charge of tackles recorded when we are getting these numbers literally in real time watching the game is ridiculous. Whether or not you think Robby should be playing is a different story entirely.
A bunch of kids who never won shit bashing a hall of fame coach at their school is more than ridiculous.
I’ve never doubted the stats. The problem has always been playing for 4 years and having a safety being your all-time leader in tackles. That’s scheme.
uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.Walkon79 said:I’ve never doubted the stats. The problem has always been playing for 4 years and having a safety being your all-time leader in tackles. That’s scheme.
"Our defensive scheme was brought in just so that the coach's son could get the most tackles on the team, designed specifically to funnel every play to him, but ignore the fact that a LB broke our school tackles record in 2 seasons in said scheme" :lol:Cuervohola said:uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.
It was absolutely a scheme. Unless the responsibilities for a Safety changed since I played or since I watched Football a week ago, they don't include constantly hanging around the line or being in the backfield.
As others have mentioned, dude had 1 INT his whole career... Gubner had 3 as a Freshman!
Robby was nothing but ME ME ME ME and I'm happy he's gone, unfortunately there's at least one more year of the guy that let all that happen unchecked.
Jesse said:mthoopsfan said:Is that why he was a first-team all conference safety?
No ints but somehow still all conference db. I think it’s called a professional courtesy by head coaches.
uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.Walkon79 said:I’ve never doubted the stats. The problem has always been playing for 4 years and having a safety being your all-time leader in tackles. That’s scheme.
Cuervohola said:uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.
It was absolutely a scheme. Unless the responsibilities for a Safety changed since I played or since I watched Football a week ago, they don't include constantly hanging around the line or being in the backfield.
As others have mentioned, dude had 1 INT his whole career... Gubner had 3 as a Freshman!
Robby was nothing but ME ME ME ME and I'm happy he's gone, unfortunately there's at least one more year of the guy that let all that happen unchecked.
mthoopsfan said:uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.
I agree. Hauck started 4 years; Dante didn't. Both were great tackles. Just sorry grapes. Lewis can say what he wants to, and I don't know him, but it makes me think less of him. Another question might be, what do Jesse Sims parents think of Olsen?
mthoopsfan said:Jesse said:No ints but somehow still all conference db. I think it’s called a professional courtesy by head coaches.
Oh, BS. 100's of coaches' sons play football and sports and don't make all-conference. Hauck also made all-American teams last year and pre-season. You clearly never played the game, and even followed it.
uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.Walkon79 said:I’ve never doubted the stats. The problem has always been playing for 4 years and having a safety being your all-time leader in tackles. That’s scheme.
CDAGRIZ said:Who f###[#] cares? Everyone being discussed is gone. They no longer play for the Griz. There should be a “Past Griz” thread for people to discuss opinions and stories about people who no longer play for the Griz.
RoseyMustGo said:mthoopsfan said:I agree. Hauck started 4 years; Dante didn't. Both were great tackles. Just sorry grapes. Lewis can say what he wants to, and I don't know him, but it makes me think less of him. Another question might be, what do Jesse Sims parents think of Olsen?
So now you're turning on Olsen too? Should we poll all of the player's parents to get their opinion, or just the ones you know? Do you think Jesse's parents would appreciate your comment about them on this forum? Jesse and Olsen were good buddies, so there is that!
Jesse said:mthoopsfan said:Oh, BS. 100's of coaches' sons play football and sports and don't make all-conference. Hauck also made all-American teams last year and pre-season. You clearly never played the game, and even followed it.
1 int after starting four years pretty much sums him up. You pretend to have played the game yet you know nothing about football or what it means to be a team player. He wasn’t, it was all about the pile on to pad his stats just ask Justin, Jace and Dante. Go back to your basement and light some more candles for your hero coach. Or continue to try and get people band like the little girl you have become on this board. Pathetic lol. 3,2,1….
PTGrizzly said:Hauck basically played an undersized LB in this scheme. Like most LB’s, when he had to be in coverage, he struggled.
mthoopsfan said:PTGrizzly said:Hauck basically played an undersized LB in this scheme. Like most LB’s, when he had to be in coverage, he struggled.
I don't agree that he struggled in pass defense. He may not have been a great pass defender, and didn't have great speed, but his coverage was fine. Most people criticizing his coverage on egriz, don't have a clue about secondary play, pass coverage, and the Griz schemes. Because I played in the secondary, watch secondary play, and discuss the subject with a few coaches and players, I think I have a better view than most on here.
Yeah, this is what I'm saying. I think the rest of the team has a legitimate gripe about Robby regarding potential favoritism in playing time, but every single Griz player benefits from UM's liberal way of crediting assisted tackles. I'd bet almost all of the bobcat fans crowing about Robby getting tackles through "cheating" were the same ones yelling about Dante getting credited for more tackles than they thought he deserved back in 2019.PTGrizzly said:uofmman1122 said:Dante Olsen had way more tackles than Robby did in the first two years—that’s why he originally broke the UM tackles record—in the same scheme. If he had had another year, Robby would never have caught him. This whole “the scheme was designed to get Robby tackles” stuff doesn’t make sense.
The reason Robby broke the record, which is that whoever does the statistics is awfully fast and loose with what a tackle is, is the same reason Olson broke the record. When half the defense gets an assisted tackle on one play, you end up with a lot of guys with a lot of tackles. Olson and Lewis don’t have anything to complain about in that regard. For other things, they might. Idk.