A Choat-led 4yr losing streak?

Get the low down on Griz/FCS Football
Post Reply
poorgriz
Posts: 3345
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:11 pm

twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:53 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:18 pm
HookedonGriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 am
So now you guys have evolved into the best defense in the big sky without playing a down of football in 2018. Holy shit you can’t make this up. First, pre season champs and now pre season best defense ever. I can promise you you will not have the best defense in the big sky.
Sometimes you guys really come off as brain dead over here. Is it really that hard for you to understand? Let's break it down. I said, exactly. "One of if not the best defense in the Big Sky." Last year we finished the year 2nd in scoring defense (The most important defensive stat by far), and 3rd in total defense. So last year we unquestionably had one of the best defenses in the Big Sky. The talent that has been brought into the defense and will play in 2018 is seriously going to be something to watch. Will it be enough to take over Weber as the best defense in the Big Sky? I think it might but I'm not positive. That's why I said "One of if not the best." Seriously, some of you guys need to look around and pay attention to what is happening with other programs, like PR does.
Funny how MSU fans think the Cat defense is right up there with Weber St as the best in the conference! The truth is, MSU was not even in the same ball park as Weber St! In scoring defense WSU was the best in the Big Sky at 15.8 points a game, nobody else was even close. S. Utah, MSU and NAU were well behind at 24.2, 24.6, and 24.9 points a game (conference only stats). UM was 5th at 28.8 points a game, and that was with an offense that was one of the worst in the league in time of possession (2nd to last) and turnovers (tied 2nd to last). I'm expecting Big Sky fans will see a defense that improves quite a bit this year, but it isn't from Bozeman.
MSU was 2nd in scoring defense in the Big Sky, just like I said. Yes, we were well behind Weber, I acknowledged that. I can promise you the MSU defense is going to be much better in 2018 than 2017. Again, if you guys don't see that then you're not paying attention. Once again, I'm trying to help here. You guys are waaaay over estimating the Hauck factor. He's not going to come in and work miracles in his first year back with your current roster.
Bobby Hauck is God. He's not a God... he's the God.
casewinter13
Posts: 415
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:20 pm

MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
bigsky33 wrote:
PlayerRep wrote:
HookedonGriz wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:12 pm From Cats scrimmage tonight:

1st series - 1s vs 1s: stalled and missed FG (Andersen QB)

2nd series - 2s vs 2s: Barkley runs for 42 yard TD (Beltran QB)

3rd series - mix of 1s and 2s: drive stalls quickly (Rovig QB)

4th series - 1s vs 1s: drive stalls inside 10 in a fumbled pitch by Andersen (Andersen QB)

5th series - 2s vs 2s: stalls inside 10 and 22 yard FG made (Bauman QB)

6th series - 1s vs 1s: 4 and out, drive stalled (Andersen QB)

7th series - 1s vs 2s: Andersen throws pick 6 by George Filer (Andersen QB)

8th series - 1s vs 2s and 3s mix: Andersen breaks tackle and scores 55 yard TD (Andersen QB)

9th series - 2s vs 2s: Rovig to Sullivan for 18 yard TD (Rovig QB)

10th series - 2s and 3s vs 2s and 3s: drive stalls and Bailey kicks 24 yard FG (Andersen QB)

11th series - 2s vs 3s: Rovig with big overthrow picked off by Luke May (Rovig QB)

12th series - 2s vs 3s: drive stalls and Byrne hits 27 yard FG (Bauman QB)


So Andersen QBd 6 of the 12 drives. Scored a TD himself on one (against 2s and 3s) and led offense to a FG on one. Had two TOs (pick and fumble). Not the best outing really.
Do you know Anderson's throwing stats?

I would say he was around 60 percent passing. Don’t know his yardage yet. The offense had about 400 yds. Anderson would have had to more running tds but he had the red shirt on. The Cat defense will be one of the best in the conference this year. They know all the plays the offense runs, so it is a bigger challenge for offense. Thought they all did good considering. There will need to be some things cleaned up but that is normal.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It sounds like TA is too good of an athlete to keep off the field.



His situation reminds me of Josh Pafhausen’s (sp?). He too was a freak athlete and a better QB than Brian Ayat. He moved to receiver though because the team was better overall with both of them on the field.

Unless he's significantly better than the Oregon bounce back kid, I’ll bet that TA ends up in a similar situation playing running back. But would expect to see some kind of wildcat package in short yardage or goal line situations.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Jesus [#]f### dude. Paf wasn't in AhYat's league as a QB. Get a grip

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

User avatar
MiningCityGrizFan
Posts: 920
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:26 pm
Location: PR's Head

casewinter13 wrote:
MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
bigsky33 wrote:
PlayerRep wrote: Do you know Anderson's throwing stats?

I would say he was around 60 percent passing. Don’t know his yardage yet. The offense had about 400 yds. Anderson would have had to more running tds but he had the red shirt on. The Cat defense will be one of the best in the conference this year. They know all the plays the offense runs, so it is a bigger challenge for offense. Thought they all did good considering. There will need to be some things cleaned up but that is normal.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It sounds like TA is too good of an athlete to keep off the field.



His situation reminds me of Josh Pafhausen’s (sp?). He too was a freak athlete and a better QB than Brian Ayat. He moved to receiver though because the team was better overall with both of them on the field.

Unless he's significantly better than the Oregon bounce back kid, I’ll bet that TA ends up in a similar situation playing running back. But would expect to see some kind of wildcat package in short yardage or goal line situations.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Jesus f*** dude. Paf wasn't in AhYat's league as a QB. Get a grip

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
First off, it’s Sunday. Don’t use the Lord’s name in vain, f**k stick.

Second, yes. Yes he was.

Third, what kind of grips are you looking for? Golf clubs? Baseball bat? Yard tools?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You can take the man out of Butte, but you can't take Butte out of the man.

eBay Stuff: Grizzlies | Bobcats | App State
casewinter13
Posts: 415
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:20 pm

Jesus mother f###[#] Christ :) Listen, debate ain't going anywhere if you're dumb enough to believe that. Paf was a great athlete, not a legitimate threat to AhYat as a QB. That's just silly. You're silly, man. Let's just part ways here knowing you're a moron. I'm comfortable with that.
MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
casewinter13 wrote:
MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
bigsky33 wrote:
I would say he was around 60 percent passing. Don’t know his yardage yet. The offense had about 400 yds. Anderson would have had to more running tds but he had the red shirt on. The Cat defense will be one of the best in the conference this year. They know all the plays the offense runs, so it is a bigger challenge for offense. Thought they all did good considering. There will need to be some things cleaned up but that is normal.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It sounds like TA is too good of an athlete to keep off the field.



His situation reminds me of Josh Pafhausen’s (sp?). He too was a freak athlete and a better QB than Brian Ayat. He moved to receiver though because the team was better overall with both of them on the field.

Unless he's significantly better than the Oregon bounce back kid, I’ll bet that TA ends up in a similar situation playing running back. But would expect to see some kind of wildcat package in short yardage or goal line situations.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Jesus f*** dude. Paf wasn't in AhYat's league as a QB. Get a grip

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
First off, it’s Sunday. Don’t use the Lord’s name in vain, f**k stick.

Second, yes. Yes he was.

Third, what kind of grips are you looking for? Golf clubs? Baseball bat? Yard tools?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

User avatar
MiningCityGrizFan
Posts: 920
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:26 pm
Location: PR's Head

casewinter13 wrote:Jesus mother f***[*] Christ :) Listen, debate ain't going anywhere if you're dumb enough to believe that. Paf was a great athlete, not a legitimate threat to AhYat as a QB. That's just silly. You're silly, man. Let's just part ways here knowing you're a moron. I'm comfortable with that.
MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
casewinter13 wrote:
MiningCityGrizFan wrote: It sounds like TA is too good of an athlete to keep off the field.



His situation reminds me of Josh Pafhausen’s (sp?). He too was a freak athlete and a better QB than Brian Ayat. He moved to receiver though because the team was better overall with both of them on the field.

Unless he's significantly better than the Oregon bounce back kid, I’ll bet that TA ends up in a similar situation playing running back. But would expect to see some kind of wildcat package in short yardage or goal line situations.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Jesus f*** dude. Paf wasn't in AhYat's league as a QB. Get a grip

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
First off, it’s Sunday. Don’t use the Lord’s name in vain, f**k stick.

Second, yes. Yes he was.

Third, what kind of grips are you looking for? Golf clubs? Baseball bat? Yard tools?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
No one was debating Paffer or Ahyat, dummy. It was simply a point of reference.

And even if we were, you don’t appear to understand how to debate.

Hint: Don’t skip the part of where you articulate an intelligent argument to support your opinion and jump right to being aggressive and insulting.

That’s not a debate, it’s a desperate cry for attention...



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You can take the man out of Butte, but you can't take Butte out of the man.

eBay Stuff: Grizzlies | Bobcats | App State
User avatar
kemajic
eGriz Club
Posts: 13352
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Columbus

MiningCityGrizFan wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:17 pm No one was debating Paffer or Ahyat, dummy. It was simply a point of reference.

And even if we were, you don’t appear to understand how to debate.

Hint: Don’t skip the part of where you articulate an intelligent argument to support your opinion and jump right to being aggressive and insulting.

That’s not a debate, it’s a desperate cry for attention...
It's pretty hard to debate someone so stupid to state as fact, not opinion, that Paffhausen was a better QB than one of the top UM QBs of all time; one who took the team to the NC game as a soph. and was second only to DD in all-time passing yardage and TD passes. Meanwhile, other than one game against St. Mary's, Paffhausen does not appear in the record book. You do not qualify for debate.
God knows when I'm good, I'm good and when I'm good, it's seldom - Aaron Watson
bigsky33
Posts: 2210
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:07 am

Wow, the beat goes on. When is this crazy thread going to end?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
poorgriz
Posts: 3345
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:11 pm

bigsky33 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:30 pm Wow, the beat goes on. When is this crazy thread going to end?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No way this effer makes it to 34 pages :mrgreen:
Bobby Hauck is God. He's not a God... he's the God.
User avatar
MiningCityGrizFan
Posts: 920
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:26 pm
Location: PR's Head

Btw... the ignore list is by far the best feature on this board. It makes it far easier to scroll through these threads when you don’t have to bother with the screeds from the lowlifes who contribute nothing to the discussions.

Image


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You can take the man out of Butte, but you can't take Butte out of the man.

eBay Stuff: Grizzlies | Bobcats | App State
User avatar
twentythreeOh4
Posts: 776
Joined: Fri May 02, 2003 8:26 pm

poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm
twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:53 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:18 pm
HookedonGriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 am
So now you guys have evolved into the best defense in the big sky without playing a down of football in 2018. Holy shit you can’t make this up. First, pre season champs and now pre season best defense ever. I can promise you you will not have the best defense in the big sky.
Sometimes you guys really come off as brain dead over here. Is it really that hard for you to understand? Let's break it down. I said, exactly. "One of if not the best defense in the Big Sky." Last year we finished the year 2nd in scoring defense (The most important defensive stat by far), and 3rd in total defense. So last year we unquestionably had one of the best defenses in the Big Sky. The talent that has been brought into the defense and will play in 2018 is seriously going to be something to watch. Will it be enough to take over Weber as the best defense in the Big Sky? I think it might but I'm not positive. That's why I said "One of if not the best." Seriously, some of you guys need to look around and pay attention to what is happening with other programs, like PR does.
Funny how MSU fans think the Cat defense is right up there with Weber St as the best in the conference! The truth is, MSU was not even in the same ball park as Weber St! In scoring defense WSU was the best in the Big Sky at 15.8 points a game, nobody else was even close. S. Utah, MSU and NAU were well behind at 24.2, 24.6, and 24.9 points a game (conference only stats). UM was 5th at 28.8 points a game, and that was with an offense that was one of the worst in the league in time of possession (2nd to last) and turnovers (tied 2nd to last). I'm expecting Big Sky fans will see a defense that improves quite a bit this year, but it isn't from Bozeman.
MSU was 2nd in scoring defense in the Big Sky, just like I said. Yes, we were well behind Weber, I acknowledged that. I can promise you the MSU defense is going to be much better in 2018 than 2017. Again, if you guys don't see that then you're not paying attention. Once again, I'm trying to help here. You guys are waaaay over estimating the Hauck factor. He's not going to come in and work miracles in his first year back with your current roster.
No, MSU was 3rd, behind both Weber and S. Utah. Here's the stat's from the Big Sky website:
  • SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
  • 1. Weber State 8 15 8 12 0 0 0 126 15.8
  • 2. Southern Utah 8 25 7 23 0 0 0 194 24.2
  • 3. Montana State 8 23 12 19 2 0 0 197 24.6
https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompag ... nfonly.htm

You keep acting like MSU's defense was All World last year, but your defense wasn't all that special. It wasn't even all that good. Giving up nearly 25 points in conference isn't something to be bragging about, but especially considering that MSU played only 1 of the top 4 scoring teams in the Big Sky (EWU), but did face 4 of the 5 worst scoring teams (ISU, UND, N. Col, and PSU)! You can keep running mouth about how great MSU's defense will be this year, but you have no credibility when they weren't nearly as good last year as you claim they were.
PlayerRep
Posts: 28543
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:06 am

casewinter13 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:35 pm Jesus mother f***[*] Christ :) Listen, debate ain't going anywhere if you're dumb enough to believe that. Paf was a great athlete, not a legitimate threat to AhYat as a QB. That's just silly. You're silly, man. Let's just part ways here knowing you're a moron. I'm comfortable with that.
MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
casewinter13 wrote:
MiningCityGrizFan wrote:
It sounds like TA is too good of an athlete to keep off the field.



His situation reminds me of Josh Pafhausen’s (sp?). He too was a freak athlete and a better QB than Brian Ayat. He moved to receiver though because the team was better overall with both of them on the field.

Unless he's significantly better than the Oregon bounce back kid, I’ll bet that TA ends up in a similar situation playing running back. But would expect to see some kind of wildcat package in short yardage or goal line situations.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Jesus f*** dude. Paf wasn't in AhYat's league as a QB. Get a grip

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
First off, it’s Sunday. Don’t use the Lord’s name in vain, f**k stick.

Second, yes. Yes he was.

Third, what kind of grips are you looking for? Golf clubs? Baseball bat? Yard tools?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
My recollection was that Ah Yet was first team all-American as a sophomore.
User avatar
stonecrest
Posts: 301
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:44 am

twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:06 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm
twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:53 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:18 pm

Sometimes you guys really come off as brain dead over here. Is it really that hard for you to understand? Let's break it down. I said, exactly. "One of if not the best defense in the Big Sky." Last year we finished the year 2nd in scoring defense (The most important defensive stat by far), and 3rd in total defense. So last year we unquestionably had one of the best defenses in the Big Sky. The talent that has been brought into the defense and will play in 2018 is seriously going to be something to watch. Will it be enough to take over Weber as the best defense in the Big Sky? I think it might but I'm not positive. That's why I said "One of if not the best." Seriously, some of you guys need to look around and pay attention to what is happening with other programs, like PR does.
Funny how MSU fans think the Cat defense is right up there with Weber St as the best in the conference! The truth is, MSU was not even in the same ball park as Weber St! In scoring defense WSU was the best in the Big Sky at 15.8 points a game, nobody else was even close. S. Utah, MSU and NAU were well behind at 24.2, 24.6, and 24.9 points a game (conference only stats). UM was 5th at 28.8 points a game, and that was with an offense that was one of the worst in the league in time of possession (2nd to last) and turnovers (tied 2nd to last). I'm expecting Big Sky fans will see a defense that improves quite a bit this year, but it isn't from Bozeman.
MSU was 2nd in scoring defense in the Big Sky, just like I said. Yes, we were well behind Weber, I acknowledged that. I can promise you the MSU defense is going to be much better in 2018 than 2017. Again, if you guys don't see that then you're not paying attention. Once again, I'm trying to help here. You guys are waaaay over estimating the Hauck factor. He's not going to come in and work miracles in his first year back with your current roster.
No, MSU was 3rd, behind both Weber and S. Utah. Here's the stat's from the Big Sky website:
  • SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
  • 1. Weber State 8 15 8 12 0 0 0 126 15.8
  • 2. Southern Utah 8 25 7 23 0 0 0 194 24.2
  • 3. Montana State 8 23 12 19 2 0 0 197 24.6
https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompag ... nfonly.htm

You keep acting like MSU's defense was All World last year, but your defense wasn't all that special. It wasn't even all that good. Giving up nearly 25 points in conference isn't something to be bragging about, but especially considering that MSU played only 1 of the top 4 scoring teams in the Big Sky (EWU), but did face 4 of the 5 worst scoring teams (ISU, UND, N. Col, and PSU)! You can keep running mouth about how great MSU's defense will be this year, but you have no credibility when they weren't nearly as good last year as you claim they were.

Now wait a minute -Trolls don’t understand logic.
Griz is the spice of life...
User avatar
ABQCat
Posts: 731
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:14 pm

bigsky33 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:30 pm Wow, the beat goes on. When is this crazy thread going to end?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This post pisses me off.
Image
User avatar
kemajic
eGriz Club
Posts: 13352
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Columbus

MiningCityGrizFan wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:03 pm Btw... the ignore list is by far the best feature on this board. It makes it far easier to scroll through these threads when you don’t have to bother with the screeds from the lowlifes who contribute nothing to the discussions.
Facts are stubborn things.
God knows when I'm good, I'm good and when I'm good, it's seldom - Aaron Watson
DriscollCat
Posts: 47
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:31 pm

twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:06 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm
twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:53 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:18 pm

Sometimes you guys really come off as brain dead over here. Is it really that hard for you to understand? Let's break it down. I said, exactly. "One of if not the best defense in the Big Sky." Last year we finished the year 2nd in scoring defense (The most important defensive stat by far), and 3rd in total defense. So last year we unquestionably had one of the best defenses in the Big Sky. The talent that has been brought into the defense and will play in 2018 is seriously going to be something to watch. Will it be enough to take over Weber as the best defense in the Big Sky? I think it might but I'm not positive. That's why I said "One of if not the best." Seriously, some of you guys need to look around and pay attention to what is happening with other programs, like PR does.
Funny how MSU fans think the Cat defense is right up there with Weber St as the best in the conference! The truth is, MSU was not even in the same ball park as Weber St! In scoring defense WSU was the best in the Big Sky at 15.8 points a game, nobody else was even close. S. Utah, MSU and NAU were well behind at 24.2, 24.6, and 24.9 points a game (conference only stats). UM was 5th at 28.8 points a game, and that was with an offense that was one of the worst in the league in time of possession (2nd to last) and turnovers (tied 2nd to last). I'm expecting Big Sky fans will see a defense that improves quite a bit this year, but it isn't from Bozeman.
MSU was 2nd in scoring defense in the Big Sky, just like I said. Yes, we were well behind Weber, I acknowledged that. I can promise you the MSU defense is going to be much better in 2018 than 2017. Again, if you guys don't see that then you're not paying attention. Once again, I'm trying to help here. You guys are waaaay over estimating the Hauck factor. He's not going to come in and work miracles in his first year back with your current roster.
No, MSU was 3rd, behind both Weber and S. Utah. Here's the stat's from the Big Sky website:
  • SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
  • 1. Weber State 8 15 8 12 0 0 0 126 15.8
  • 2. Southern Utah 8 25 7 23 0 0 0 194 24.2
  • 3. Montana State 8 23 12 19 2 0 0 197 24.6
https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompag ... nfonly.htm

You keep acting like MSU's defense was All World last year, but your defense wasn't all that special. It wasn't even all that good. Giving up nearly 25 points in conference isn't something to be bragging about, but especially considering that MSU played only 1 of the top 4 scoring teams in the Big Sky (EWU), but did face 4 of the 5 worst scoring teams (ISU, UND, N. Col, and PSU)! You can keep running mouth about how great MSU's defense will be this year, but you have no credibility when they weren't nearly as good last year as you claim they were.
Yes MSU was 2nd in scoring defense if you look at the main statistics page on the BSC website. You chose to look at the conference only page so that you found a stat more to your liking. Note, MSU nonconference consisted of a P5 school, a semifinal team and a quarterfinal team - not easier that BSC teams. SUUs ooc was tough too, but no tougher than MSUs. No matter how you slice your statistics though, the MSU defense was among the top in the big sky last year.
User avatar
uofmman1122
eGriz Club
Posts: 4439
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:13 pm
Location: Missoula

DriscollCat wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:50 am
twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:06 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm
twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:53 pm

Funny how MSU fans think the Cat defense is right up there with Weber St as the best in the conference! The truth is, MSU was not even in the same ball park as Weber St! In scoring defense WSU was the best in the Big Sky at 15.8 points a game, nobody else was even close. S. Utah, MSU and NAU were well behind at 24.2, 24.6, and 24.9 points a game (conference only stats). UM was 5th at 28.8 points a game, and that was with an offense that was one of the worst in the league in time of possession (2nd to last) and turnovers (tied 2nd to last). I'm expecting Big Sky fans will see a defense that improves quite a bit this year, but it isn't from Bozeman.
MSU was 2nd in scoring defense in the Big Sky, just like I said. Yes, we were well behind Weber, I acknowledged that. I can promise you the MSU defense is going to be much better in 2018 than 2017. Again, if you guys don't see that then you're not paying attention. Once again, I'm trying to help here. You guys are waaaay over estimating the Hauck factor. He's not going to come in and work miracles in his first year back with your current roster.
No, MSU was 3rd, behind both Weber and S. Utah. Here's the stat's from the Big Sky website:
  • SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
  • 1. Weber State 8 15 8 12 0 0 0 126 15.8
  • 2. Southern Utah 8 25 7 23 0 0 0 194 24.2
  • 3. Montana State 8 23 12 19 2 0 0 197 24.6
https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompag ... nfonly.htm

You keep acting like MSU's defense was All World last year, but your defense wasn't all that special. It wasn't even all that good. Giving up nearly 25 points in conference isn't something to be bragging about, but especially considering that MSU played only 1 of the top 4 scoring teams in the Big Sky (EWU), but did face 4 of the 5 worst scoring teams (ISU, UND, N. Col, and PSU)! You can keep running mouth about how great MSU's defense will be this year, but you have no credibility when they weren't nearly as good last year as you claim they were.
Yes MSU was 2nd in scoring defense if you look at the main statistics page on the BSC website. You chose to look at the conference only page so that you found a stat more to your liking. Note, MSU nonconference consisted of a P5 school, a semifinal team and a quarterfinal team - not easier that BSC teams. SUUs ooc was tough too, but no tougher than MSUs. No matter how you slice your statistics though, the MSU defense was among the top in the big sky last year.
SUU’s non conference makes them look worse because Oregon hung 77 on them. That’s why it only makes sense to look at conference stats.
"Furk. Sneed is in."
poorgriz
Posts: 3345
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:11 pm

Ya, I looked at the stats directly on the big Sky website, not trying to fudge anything. Our OOC was very tough. You can look at whatever stats you want. Bottom line, when I say one defense should be "One of of not the best in the Big Sky" in 2018 based on last year's performance and all the new talent, that is accurate. Bookmarked.
Bobby Hauck is God. He's not a God... he's the God.
User avatar
ABQCat
Posts: 731
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:14 pm

poorgriz wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:37 am Ya, I looked at the stats directly on the big Sky website, not trying to fudge anything. Our OOC was very tough. You can look at whatever stats you want. Bottom line, when I say one defense should be "One of of not the best in the Big Sky" in 2018 based on last year's performance and all the new talent, that is accurate. Bookmarked.
Preseason champs again! You chumps just can't get enough of the total beat downs you're given over here. Why do you keep embarrassing yourself?

Edit: I forgot to logout and log back in with my CDA account. My bad.
Image
DriscollCat
Posts: 47
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:31 pm

uofmman1122 wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:05 am
DriscollCat wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:50 am
twentythreeOh4 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:06 pm
poorgriz wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm

MSU was 2nd in scoring defense in the Big Sky, just like I said. Yes, we were well behind Weber, I acknowledged that. I can promise you the MSU defense is going to be much better in 2018 than 2017. Again, if you guys don't see that then you're not paying attention. Once again, I'm trying to help here. You guys are waaaay over estimating the Hauck factor. He's not going to come in and work miracles in his first year back with your current roster.
No, MSU was 3rd, behind both Weber and S. Utah. Here's the stat's from the Big Sky website:
  • SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
  • 1. Weber State 8 15 8 12 0 0 0 126 15.8
  • 2. Southern Utah 8 25 7 23 0 0 0 194 24.2
  • 3. Montana State 8 23 12 19 2 0 0 197 24.6
https://static.bigskyconf.com/custompag ... nfonly.htm

You keep acting like MSU's defense was All World last year, but your defense wasn't all that special. It wasn't even all that good. Giving up nearly 25 points in conference isn't something to be bragging about, but especially considering that MSU played only 1 of the top 4 scoring teams in the Big Sky (EWU), but did face 4 of the 5 worst scoring teams (ISU, UND, N. Col, and PSU)! You can keep running mouth about how great MSU's defense will be this year, but you have no credibility when they weren't nearly as good last year as you claim they were.
Yes MSU was 2nd in scoring defense if you look at the main statistics page on the BSC website. You chose to look at the conference only page so that you found a stat more to your liking. Note, MSU nonconference consisted of a P5 school, a semifinal team and a quarterfinal team - not easier that BSC teams. SUUs ooc was tough too, but no tougher than MSUs. No matter how you slice your statistics though, the MSU defense was among the top in the big sky last year.
SUU’s non conference makes them look worse because Oregon hung 77 on them. That’s why it only makes sense to look at conference stats.
Note that we did not let Washington State hang 77 on us. Regardless, it is dishonest for 2304 to state that we were NOT 2nd in scoring defense. We were by one standard. He could state that for in conference play we were technically not 2nd but 3rd (though the difference between us and SUU in conference was minimal). But he didn’t. He said, “No, MSU was 3rd” and tried to say that meant that MSU wasn’t among the top defenses in the conference.
User avatar
Catsrback76
Posts: 1475
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:51 pm
Location: O.K. Corral

MiningCityGrizFan wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:03 pm Btw... the ignore list is by far the best feature on this board. It makes it far easier to scroll through these threads when you don’t have to bother with the screeds from the lowlifes who contribute nothing to the discussions.

Image


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

CHARGE YOUR PHONE DUDE...I am freaking out!
"I'm your hucklebearer!"
Post Reply