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Sac St is opting out

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Sacramento State has announced it is opting out of the Big Sky Conference's proposed 2021 spring football season.

Coach Troy Taylor calls the decision "in the best interest of both our student-athletes and our football program to opt out of a possible spring football season."
 
It is hard on football players at this level to have to recover in a few months from many of the injuries they can get, particularly with a deep playoff run.

I respect the decisions to play or not play. Both are valid. Just decide now/soon like Sac did and not be a last minute bail that screws schedules up.
 
There are people in the athletic department at UM that don't think it is happening either.
 
In listening to Hauck and the Coaches Show, I get the impression that UM is not high on a spring season at all. They definitely don’t want to play 8 games, especially if there are major crowd restrictions and other parameters. My gut tells me that UM will be “out” as well.
 
Football games are major events for a school that benefits from concession sales and parking revenue. Without TV money, the school needs fans in the stands to play football. That's why Montana might decide against playing the spring season. Current regulations would limit the number of fans who could attend games, and school officials have created a formula that suggests that playing football with 5,000 or fewer fans in the spring would be the financial equivalent of canceling the season.


Montana's inability to pack its football stadium this fall will have an impact on other sports, including basketball.
"Unless there is some drastic revamping of media rights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us," Montana athletic director Kent Haslam said.

The decision about the size of the football crowd, critical for revenue, is out of Haslam's control. In Montana, the governor's guidelines are regulated and policed by a designated official. Ellen Leahy, director and health officer of the Missoula City-County Health Department, holds the power to create and enforce restrictions. Right now, Missoula allows limited "cohorts" of 50 or fewer people, as long as they don't mix.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29993776/why-mid-low-major-college-basketball-programs-big-trouble-buy-games
 
Brother Bear said:
Football games are major events for a school that benefits from concession sales and parking revenue. Without TV money, the school needs fans in the stands to play football. That's why Montana might decide against playing the spring season. Current regulations would limit the number of fans who could attend games, and school officials have created a formula that suggests that playing football with 5,000 or fewer fans in the spring would be the financial equivalent of canceling the season.


Montana's inability to pack its football stadium this fall will have an impact on other sports, including basketball.
"Unless there is some drastic revamping of media rights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us," Montana athletic director Kent Haslam said.

The decision about the size of the football crowd, critical for revenue, is out of Haslam's control. In Montana, the governor's guidelines are regulated and policed by a designated official. Ellen Leahy, director and health officer of the Missoula City-County Health Department, holds the power to create and enforce restrictions. Right now, Missoula allows limited "cohorts" of 50 or fewer people, as long as they don't mix.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29993776/why-mid-low-major-college-basketball-programs-big-trouble-buy-games
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We will have a better governor by then. But you have to have teams to play; I hope it does, but I'm not optimistic the spring schedule ever happens.
 
kemajic said:
Brother Bear said:
Football games are major events for a school that benefits from concession sales and parking revenue. Without TV money, the school needs fans in the stands to play football. That's why Montana might decide against playing the spring season. Current regulations would limit the number of fans who could attend games, and school officials have created a formula that suggests that playing football with 5,000 or fewer fans in the spring would be the financial equivalent of canceling the season.


Montana's inability to pack its football stadium this fall will have an impact on other sports, including basketball.
"Unless there is some drastic revamping of media rights, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us," Montana athletic director Kent Haslam said.

The decision about the size of the football crowd, critical for revenue, is out of Haslam's control. In Montana, the governor's guidelines are regulated and policed by a designated official. Ellen Leahy, director and health officer of the Missoula City-County Health Department, holds the power to create and enforce restrictions. Right now, Missoula allows limited "cohorts" of 50 or fewer people, as long as they don't mix.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29993776/why-mid-low-major-college-basketball-programs-big-trouble-buy-games
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We will have a better governor by then. But you have to have teams to play; I hope it does, but I'm not optimistic the spring schedule ever happens.
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With limited live crowds, it was always going to come down to TV revenue, IMO. The networks may find a way (one time) to improve the revenue stream for the teams to make it possible. It's in their self-interest – I think people much prefer live sports programming -- even if they can only reach a slightly above break-even for themselves. Sadly, they've not shown that much smarts in the past.
 
Not a good sign of possible things to come.
Maybe UM could do like Oregon State is doing. For $50 I believe per game they can provide a fan photo for a cut out of them in the stadium. Maybe with limited in person fan attendance and fans willing to purchase a cutout that could fill seats maybe this would make having a spring season more economically feasible?
 
OrgonGriz said:
Not a good sign of possible things to come.
Maybe UM could do like Oregon State is doing. For $50 I believe per game they can provide a fan photo for a cut out of them in the stadium. Maybe with limited in person fan attendance and fans willing to purchase a cutout that could fill seats maybe this would make having a spring season more economically feasible?
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Would grab one in a heartbeat ... but would enough people really sign up? Hundred bucks for a couple. That's a hefty chunk for nothing but bragging rights. Is that per game, BTW? I assume it is, otherwise it's not really much revenue in this context.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
OrgonGriz said:
Not a good sign of possible things to come.
Maybe UM could do like Oregon State is doing. For $50 I believe per game they can provide a fan photo for a cut out of them in the stadium. Maybe with limited in person fan attendance and fans willing to purchase a cutout that could fill seats maybe this would make having a spring season more economically feasible?
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Would grab one in a heartbeat ... but would enough people really sign up? Hundred bucks for a couple. That's a hefty chunk for nothing but bragging rights. Is that per game, BTW? I assume it is, otherwise it's not really much revenue in this context.
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Basically the price of a ticket.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
OrgonGriz said:
Not a good sign of possible things to come.
Maybe UM could do like Oregon State is doing. For $50 I believe per game they can provide a fan photo for a cut out of them in the stadium. Maybe with limited in person fan attendance and fans willing to purchase a cutout that could fill seats maybe this would make having a spring season more economically feasible?
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Would grab one in a heartbeat ... but would enough people really sign up? Hundred bucks for a couple. That's a hefty chunk for nothing but bragging rights. Is that per game, BTW? I assume it is, otherwise it's not really much revenue in this context.
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Believe per game! However, you also get a photo of your cutout in the stand and you get to collect your cut out when done. So kinda fun I guess...
 
The Spring season looks doubtful. MT is speeding towards a real problem with available hospital beds. I dont see a behavioral or attitudinal about face anytime soon from MT folks. There's a lot more activity around Ft. Harrison's field medical "tent hospital city." Or whatever u want to call it. Seems like the bumper sticker - Herd immunity or bust, MT style, would make some $$....🤭
 
Brother Bear said:
Football games are major events for a school that benefits from concession sales and parking revenue.
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As a side note it appears that parking revenue will be go away or be greatly reduced in the future anyways. The current plan apparently is to trade all the large parking lots around the stadium to the city in exchange for the old library building. The city will then gift the parking lots to the homeless industrial complex to build more “subsidized” housing, while UM can have the old library, which apparently was so decrepit that it wasn’t acceptable to fulfill its current mission as a safe reliable place for homeless to watch porn, and UM will use this prize for more classroom and lab space (a need I’m sure is based out future enrollment projections).

https://missoulian.com/news/local/um-city-of-missoula-consider-merging-resources-services/article_ce828fd5-7d5c-54e7-b874-7b21fb530745.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
 
Grizbeer said:
Brother Bear said:
Football games are major events for a school that benefits from concession sales and parking revenue.
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As a side note it appears that parking revenue will be go away or be greatly reduced in the future anyways. The current plan apparently is to trade all the large parking lots around the stadium to the city in exchange for the old library building. The city will then gift the parking lots to the homeless industrial complex to build more “subsidized” housing, while UM can have the old library, which apparently was so decrepit that it wasn’t acceptable to fulfill its current mission as a safe reliable place for homeless to watch porn, and UM will use this prize for more classroom and lab space (a need I’m sure is based out future enrollment projections).

https://missoulian.com/news/local/um-city-of-missoula-consider-merging-resources-services/article_ce828fd5-7d5c-54e7-b874-7b21fb530745.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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I see the name change coming to Sanfranzoola State University.
 
Grizbeer said:
Brother Bear said:
Football games are major events for a school that benefits from concession sales and parking revenue.
Click to expand...

As a side note it appears that parking revenue will be go away or be greatly reduced in the future anyways. The current plan apparently is to trade all the large parking lots around the stadium to the city in exchange for the old library building. The city will then gift the parking lots to the homeless industrial complex to build more “subsidized” housing, while UM can have the old library, which apparently was so decrepit that it wasn’t acceptable to fulfill its current mission as a safe reliable place for homeless to watch porn, and UM will use this prize for more classroom and lab space (a need I’m sure is based out future enrollment projections).

https://missoulian.com/news/local/um-city-of-missoula-consider-merging-resources-services/article_ce828fd5-7d5c-54e7-b874-7b21fb530745.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of an idea at this level of stupid before. Bodner would do well to stay as FAR away from Engen and his hairbrained scemes as he can get.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Grizbeer said:
As a side note it appears that parking revenue will be go away or be greatly reduced in the future anyways. The current plan apparently is to trade all the large parking lots around the stadium to the city in exchange for the old library building. The city will then gift the parking lots to the homeless industrial complex to build more “subsidized” housing, while UM can have the old library, which apparently was so decrepit that it wasn’t acceptable to fulfill its current mission as a safe reliable place for homeless to watch porn, and UM will use this prize for more classroom and lab space (a need I’m sure is based out future enrollment projections).

https://missoulian.com/news/local/um-city-of-missoula-consider-merging-resources-services/article_ce828fd5-7d5c-54e7-b874-7b21fb530745.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of an idea at this level of stupid before. Bodner would do well to stay as FAR away from Engen and his hairbrained scemes as he can get.
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The fat man smells blood in the water.
 
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