PlayerRep said:
braves84 said:
So, what was falls issue when he shot around 37% from the field and 32% from 3 point land last year.
Like I said he is what he is, a serviceable role player in limited minuets.
Why do you think Falls played 31 minutes, 3d on the team today? He led the team in assists. That is more than serviceable. Nor is 31 minutes and 3d on the team, limited minutes.
What the heck are you talking about?
1. I think what he is saying is that Falls skill set is that of role player, hes not saying that Falls is playing the minutes of a role player. He's saying Falls is a 2nd sting guy who his being forced into starter minutes because of the lack of depth you rightly mentioned. And I don't think that is an attack in Falls, some guys are pinch hitters because there skill set doesn't translate well over a long stretch but rather have more impact in a spark plug role. Also I think anyone objective would say Falls has an objectively lol poor shooting stroke, its a low line drive and he has side ways rotation on FTs. He's not a good shooter, and again that's fine I don't expect to score a lot, his best skills are stingy D and distributing. But what Braves84 is saying is that if you want to view Falls as a starting level PG then all the turnovers become unacceptable, you can't be a starting level PG if its not efficient to have you handling the ball a lot. And if you want to view him as a starting level shooting guard then his needs be a good shooter or scorer, but it would not be efficient to have Falls get a high volume of shots.
2. I'm pretty sure Selcuk is not playing this year, he's not going to use his last year of eligibility to play a abbreviated season.
3. We don't have good shooters, like that's just not true, last year we didn't have good shooters, and the year before we didn't have good shooters. That just not the the style the Griz recruit, they go for high upside athletes who if they were better shoots would probably be going to bigger places than UM. Ogunie and Rorie developed into competent shooters, but you would never confuse them for guys who might go off for 6 or 7 3pt shots in a game because they didn't have the shooting talent to do that. Solid shooters can get hot but good shooters will kill you if you leave them wide open. We use our athleticism to create a high volume of high percentage shots close to the hoop, and if you remember the last few years the way to beat us was clog the lane and make us be shot makers.
4. SO the unlucky lid on the basket narrative...nah how many time is the lid going to be on the basket against Power 5 teams v. Mich 32% and 33% v. Penn St. 39% v. Zona 26% v. Stanford 29% and 44% v. Washington 40% v. Arkansas 32%. I sure I missed few games from last few years. Pitt was awful.
Griz often rank high in shooting percentage because they are built to move the ball and get easy looks going to the basket and they have guys that can convert at the rim. When you play against power 5 competition the bad shooting shows up because the volume of looks close to the basket goes way down. For example the Griz might generate 25 open mid range or 3pt looks against Weber State and make 8 of them against Mich they might generate 13 and make 3, same bad shooting but all of a sudden your scoring 52pts instead of 65pts.
LIKE who on the Griz scares you from wide open? Manuel maybe if he is feeling it but if he is cold he can clank a bunch of open 3s in a row. Sometimes it feels pointless to work open looks on the perimeter because if Griz were just playing on a empty court they'd still shoot 37% on perimeter jumps shots. Nobody from the last few years would scare you in a 3pt contest...
That's why TD builds his team on D because we aren't going to win consistently in shootouts, but we can hold you to 55pts and consistently score 65-70 by getting turnovers and driving the ball in for shots close to the rim. Its a reliable formula for BSC, but without size or fineness/shooting its just hard to beat Power 5 teams who are more athletic and have size and shooting, when your game is predicated on being the most athletic team on the floor.
ALL OF WHICH IS TO SAY: I think we have to be real, Griz are not built around strong shooting or size and our struggles against power 5 teams are no lid on the basket fluke, were just built to matchup with Power 5 competition. We are built on speed, defense, athleticism relative to bigsky competition, getting a lot high percentage shots going to the basket, and the hope of developing a few shooters and a few bigs who can defend. Now it can be frustrating when we all dream of being a sweet 16 darling, but Im also grateful for sustained success in the bigsky and if we continue that maybe the shooters and skilled bigs will come...AND some proper promotion from university to help build a fan base and fill the arena >:-( would also Help!
5. I agree all the Frosh look legit, super excited for this team! Hollinger looks like a Kareem Jamar in the making with more hops!, Vasquez looks like he has a lot of potential in his shooting stroke and seems super calm for a Frosh leading the offense, Owens looks like he has fun playing the game and will be super versatile, Egun uhh not sure what he brings yet, he hasn't 'flashed" as they say, either negatively or positively. Mac showed me if he plays aggressive he could be a real legit Big. I also have high expectations for Samualson, and of course Pridgett can get his. Which all is exciting because it looks like Reload rather than a Rebuild!
