Not to mention Sneeds ability to extend plays, which will allow the receivers to run two and three routes in one play, that's another element to his game,
poorgriz said:garizzalies said:Good f***[*] god, man, will you please stop with this bullshit or at least acknowledge that the “reports” of improvement only came after the reporter made an honest assessment that Murray couldn’t hit the ground if he fell out of a tree?poorgriz said:The reports I heard coming out of Spring camp were favorable in that he showed noticeable improvement in these areas.
Wasn't talking to you, I was having a grown-up discussion with Blgz Griz. But since you seem to be so concerned about my opinion that Chris is improving as a QB, I could give a shit what Colter says. I am seeing improvement via the Spring game and practices I watched. I was also referring to comments made by coaches, and by some of my friends that watched the Spring scrimmages. Maybe you should sit a couple plays out, and go have a beer to mellow out or something. :thumb:
HookedonGriz said:poorgriz said:HookedonGriz said:ABQCat said:PR I don't remember you at the Cat spring games when Bruggman lit it up. I was there. He looked very good. The Sneed/Bruggman comparison is fair until Sneed proves otherwise.
Something happened at UNLV and Sneed left. What was that exactly? Is it something that could make him a risk at um? The elephant in the room that's conveniently not discussed over here is a total lack of depth. There is no question that um is in bad shape at the QB position right now.
Say what you will about Murray, but it cannot be disputed that's he's good enough to go 2-0 against um with one of the wins as a true freshman in Missoula. Impressive. In two games um knew exactly who he was, and knew exactly what he was going to do. um couldn't find an answer.
You should be concerned about your own depth. Holy shit after seeing Rovig in the spring you better pray Murray doesn't get hurt.
Travis Jonsen will be Murray's backup IMO
Based on all those snaps he took in the spring? Oh that's right, he sat out after he hurt his leg slipping on ice. Let's hope he plays football better than he walks in snow.
Ha! Nice try, troll. You’re so overextended in your trolling that you have forgotten your own prior posts.poorgriz said:I could give a shit what Colter says.
poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.
poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,
poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.
poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
:clap: :thumb: :lol:PlayerRep said:garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
Nice work, Gar.
garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
poorgriz said:garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
Wow, you are really worked up over this? I can't tell if it's you or me you're trying to convince that Chris Murray isn't improving at all....... maybe both?
garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
garizzalies said:poorgriz said:garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
Wow, you are really worked up over this? I can't tell if it's you or me you're trying to convince that Chris Murray isn't improving at all....... maybe both?
Neither. Unlike you, I mean it when I say this: I could give a shit what you think. I don’t care what your opinion is, and I don’t really even have an opinion.
But don’t VIM on us and tell us it’s raining. When the BASIS for someone’s opinion is misleading, I call them on it.
PlayerRep said:ABQCat said:PR I don't remember you at the Cat spring games when Bruggman lit it up. I was there. He looked very good. The Sneed/Bruggman comparison is fair until Sneed proves otherwise.
Something happened at UNLV and Sneed left. What was that exactly? Is it something that could make him a risk at um? The elephant in the room that's conveniently not discussed over here is a total lack of depth. There is no question that um is in bad shape at the QB position right now.
Say what you will about Murray, but it cannot be disputed that's he's good enough to go 2-0 against um with one of the wins as a true freshman in Missoula. Impressive. In two games um knew exactly who he was, and knew exactly what he was going to do. um couldn't find an answer.
Bruggman? Zero relevance.Please don’t waste our time. He has nothing to do with this discussion.
Catsrgrood said:PlayerRep said:ABQCat said:PR I don't remember you at the Cat spring games when Bruggman lit it up. I was there. He looked very good. The Sneed/Bruggman comparison is fair until Sneed proves otherwise.
Something happened at UNLV and Sneed left. What was that exactly? Is it something that could make him a risk at um? The elephant in the room that's conveniently not discussed over here is a total lack of depth. There is no question that um is in bad shape at the QB position right now.
Say what you will about Murray, but it cannot be disputed that's he's good enough to go 2-0 against um with one of the wins as a true freshman in Missoula. Impressive. In two games um knew exactly who he was, and knew exactly what he was going to do. um couldn't find an answer.
Bruggman? Zero relevance.Please don’t waste our time. He has nothing to do with this discussion.
I’d say there is some relevance there.
Both highly touted out of high school, I believe both out of AZ also. Sneed a 3 star, Bruggman a 4 star.
Both went FBS first, in Bruggman’s case two FBS schools, before going to a JUCO for a year, then comes to an FCS school to be the guy and is hand picked by a new coaching staff to be just that.
Bruggmans JUCO stats , the year before being with the Cats:
48.8% completion,1692 yds, 19 TD’s, 7 INT’s, 112.7 eff.
Sneeds JUCO stats:
58.8% completion, 1,257 yds, 7 TD’s, not sure in the other two, probably easy to find, just going off of PR’s post from the first page.
Both came to their new school and looked very good in Spring Ball and had everybody excited that they’d be the answer.
We all saw how Bruggman worked out, even a few games into the season we were still hearing about how good he looked in practice and how it was a matter of time before it showed in a game.
The jury’s out on Sneed at this point.
So besides those points, I guess there is no comparison on the situations between Sneed and Bruggman...
Once again PR, I respect your knowledge on these matters, but I think I’ve yet to see a post from you where you disagree with someone but are able to refrain from calling them stupid or an idiot or something along those lines. These are just discussions and everyone has a point of view, some better than others. But not everyone is stupid if they don’t see it your way.
No, sorry for the confusion. When referring to you, I generally reserve only the high-brow monikers, like SpendAPennySince03.VimSince03 said:garizzalies said:poorgriz said:
Wow, you are really worked up over this? I can't tell if it's you or me you're trying to convince that Chris Murray isn't improving at all....... maybe both?
Neither. Unlike you, I mean it when I say this: I could give a shit what you think. I don’t care what your opinion is, and I don’t really even have an opinion.
But don’t VIM on us and tell us it’s raining. When the BASIS for someone’s opinion is misleading, I call them on it.
I told you it was raining? Maybe partly cloudy.
Catsrgrood said:PlayerRep said:ABQCat said:PR I don't remember you at the Cat spring games when Bruggman lit it up. I was there. He looked very good. The Sneed/Bruggman comparison is fair until Sneed proves otherwise.
Something happened at UNLV and Sneed left. What was that exactly? Is it something that could make him a risk at um? The elephant in the room that's conveniently not discussed over here is a total lack of depth. There is no question that um is in bad shape at the QB position right now.
Say what you will about Murray, but it cannot be disputed that's he's good enough to go 2-0 against um with one of the wins as a true freshman in Missoula. Impressive. In two games um knew exactly who he was, and knew exactly what he was going to do. um couldn't find an answer.
Bruggman? Zero relevance.Please don’t waste our time. He has nothing to do with this discussion.
I’d say there is some relevance there.
Both highly touted out of high school, I believe both out of AZ also. Sneed a 3 star, Bruggman a 4 star.
Both went FBS first, in Bruggman’s case two FBS schools, before going to a JUCO for a year, then comes to an FCS school to be the guy and is hand picked by a new coaching staff to be just that.
Bruggmans JUCO stats , the year before being with the Cats:
48.8% completion,1692 yds, 19 TD’s, 7 INT’s, 112.7 eff.
Sneeds JUCO stats:
58.8% completion, 1,257 yds, 7 TD’s, not sure in the other two, probably easy to find, just going off of PR’s post from the first page.
Both came to their new school and looked very good in Spring Ball and had everybody excited that they’d be the answer.
We all saw how Bruggman worked out, even a few games into the season we were still hearing about how good he looked in practice and how it was a matter of time before it showed in a game.
The jury’s out on Sneed at this point.
So besides those points, I guess there is no comparison on the situations between Sneed and Bruggman...
Once again PR, I respect your knowledge on these matters, but I think I’ve yet to see a post from you where you disagree with someone but are able to refrain from calling them stupid or an idiot or something along those lines. These are just discussions and everyone has a point of view, some better than others. But not everyone is stupid if they don’t see it your way.
garizzalies said:poorgriz said:garizzalies said:poorgriz said:And as I stated earlier, guys like VIM and Colter and others can break down all the player and position outlook much better than I can.poorgriz said:Colter, and others are much better at breaking down the specifics,poorgriz said:You can thank Colter for that observation.poorgriz said:I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions
Wow, you are really worked up over this? I can't tell if it's you or me you're trying to convince that Chris Murray isn't improving at all....... maybe both?
Neither. Unlike you, I mean it when I say this: I could give a shit what you think. I don’t care what your opinion is, and I don’t really even have an opinion.
But don’t VIM on us and tell us it’s raining. When the BASIS for someone’s opinion is misleading, I call them on it.