Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

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Post by HookedonGriz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:23 am

Calhoun and Sandry also make this list at 63 and 88

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Post by krammer » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:03 am

interesting,,,,all on the defensive side of the ball....we may be a lot better than we realize ......most of the talk is our offensive side of the ball...this team, may be the real deal by the end of the season...

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Post by alabamagrizzly » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:19 am

I guess they didn’t realize that EWoo and the scats got players way better then these guys.
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Post by HookedonGriz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:45 am

alabamagrizzly wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:19 am
I guess they didn’t realize that EWoo and the scats got players way better then these guys.
I didn’t see a lot (if any) NDSU players. That has to be a first.

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Post by SoldierGriz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 am

The defense has a chance to be special. Someone posted stats about effectiveness of pass defense last season. I think that will turn to above average this season. The real challenge this season will be stopping the run. Who will eat blocks allowing DO and Hauck to head hunt? If the Griz can be above average stopping the run and get timely pressure on QBs...playoff caliber defense.

The offensive playmakers are on board. I won't rehash concerns with the O Line, but I am not sure the offense will be better than average.

I do think the coaching stability and special teams will allow Griz to win a couple of toss up games.
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Post by alabamagrizzly » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:57 am

SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 am
The defense has a chance to be special. Someone posted stats about effectiveness of pass defense last season. I think that will turn to above average this season. The real challenge this season will be stopping the run. Who will eat blocks allowing DO and Hauck to head hunt? If the Griz can be above average stopping the run and get timely pressure on QBs...playoff caliber defense.

The offensive playmakers are on board. I won't rehash concerns with the O Line, but I am not sure the offense will be better than average.

I do think the coaching stability and special teams will allow Griz to win a couple of toss up games.
As for eating up blocks, David Shaw did a good job of that last years just being so big but from what I understand is Sims will be moving to that spot and I believe he may be even better due to being quicker and possibly just as strong or stronger. Alford should be capable too but after him I see a drop off possibly.
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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by The.Real.2506 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:05 am

alabamagrizzly wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:19 am
I guess they didn’t realize that EWoo and the scats got players way better then these guys.
MSU has 3 on the list same as um

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Post by mcg » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:21 am

The.Real.2506 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:05 am
alabamagrizzly wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:19 am
I guess they didn’t realize that EWoo and the scats got players way better then these guys.
MSU has 3 on the list same as um
Who cares?

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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by The.Real.2506 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:21 pm

mcg wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:21 am
The.Real.2506 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:05 am
alabamagrizzly wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:19 am
I guess they didn’t realize that EWoo and the scats got players way better then these guys.
MSU has 3 on the list same as um
Who cares?
evidently alabamagrizzly does since he brought up the question

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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by AZGrizFan » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:32 pm

SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 am
The defense has a chance to be special. Someone posted stats about effectiveness of pass defense last season. I think that will turn to above average this season. The real challenge this season will be stopping the run. Who will eat blocks allowing DO and Hauck to head hunt? If the Griz can be above average stopping the run and get timely pressure on QBs...playoff caliber defense.

The offensive playmakers are on board. I won't rehash concerns with the O Line, but I am not sure the offense will be better than average.

I do think the coaching stability and special teams will allow Griz to win a couple of toss up games.
Serious question: Why do you believe pass defense will "turn to above average" this season without any proof, but do NOT believe in any improvement in the O-Line without proof? :? :?
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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by SoldierGriz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:41 pm

I'm not claiming to have proof. There is no evidence either. Ha ha.

But, I do think the Griz have the athletes required to elevate performance in the secondary. Calhoun, Sandry, and Hauck have unbelievable potential. Calhoun was essentially playing CB as a freshman last year.

I don't think the same way about the O Line. I think they are who they are...and at this point, even the depth brought in remains a big unknown.

Let me ask you this: do the Griz have a better chance at potential All BSC in the secondary, or on the O Line?
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Post by AZGrizFan » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm

SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:41 pm
I'm not claiming to have proof. There is no evidence either. Ha ha.

But, I do think the Griz have the athletes required to elevate performance in the secondary. Calhoun, Sandry, and Hauck have unbelievable potential. Calhoun was essentially playing CB as a freshman last year.

I don't think the same way about the O Line. I think they are who they are...and at this point, even the depth brought in remains a big unknown.

Let me ask you this: do the Griz have a better chance at potential All BSC in the secondary, or on the O Line?
Well I don't have proof (or evidence...a subtle distinction, to be sure ;) ) for EITHER side of the ball...but I do believe they now have the athletes on the offensive side as well to elevate their performance. Ganoung. Anderson. Pillans. Mallory. A healthy Villanueva. A larger, more seasoned Sirmon. Keintz. Beaver. Cook. The list goes on and on.

I just think its interesting that you think the SAME guys on the D side can "elevate their performance", but the same guys on the OFFENSIVE side somehow have learned all they're going to learn and "are who they are".

I think we'll be pleasantly surprised (on both sides of the ball, honestly). :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by SoldierGriz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:25 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm
SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:41 pm
I'm not claiming to have proof. There is no evidence either. Ha ha.

But, I do think the Griz have the athletes required to elevate performance in the secondary. Calhoun, Sandry, and Hauck have unbelievable potential. Calhoun was essentially playing CB as a freshman last year.

I don't think the same way about the O Line. I think they are who they are...and at this point, even the depth brought in remains a big unknown.

Let me ask you this: do the Griz have a better chance at potential All BSC in the secondary, or on the O Line?
Well I don't have proof (or evidence...a subtle distinction, to be sure ;) ) for EITHER side of the ball...but I do believe they now have the athletes on the offensive side as well to elevate their performance. Ganoung. Anderson. Pillans. Mallory. A healthy Villanueva. A larger, more seasoned Sirmon. Keintz. Beaver. Cook. The list goes on and on.

I just think its interesting that you think the SAME guys on the D side can "elevate their performance", but the same guys on the OFFENSIVE side somehow have learned all they're going to learn and "are who they are".

I think we'll be pleasantly surprised (on both sides of the ball, honestly). :thumb: :thumb:
Maybe so...but, you didn't answer my question.
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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by AZGrizFan » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pm

SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:25 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm
SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:41 pm
I'm not claiming to have proof. There is no evidence either. Ha ha.

But, I do think the Griz have the athletes required to elevate performance in the secondary. Calhoun, Sandry, and Hauck have unbelievable potential. Calhoun was essentially playing CB as a freshman last year.

I don't think the same way about the O Line. I think they are who they are...and at this point, even the depth brought in remains a big unknown.

Let me ask you this: do the Griz have a better chance at potential All BSC in the secondary, or on the O Line?
Well I don't have proof (or evidence...a subtle distinction, to be sure ;) ) for EITHER side of the ball...but I do believe they now have the athletes on the offensive side as well to elevate their performance. Ganoung. Anderson. Pillans. Mallory. A healthy Villanueva. A larger, more seasoned Sirmon. Keintz. Beaver. Cook. The list goes on and on.

I just think its interesting that you think the SAME guys on the D side can "elevate their performance", but the same guys on the OFFENSIVE side somehow have learned all they're going to learn and "are who they are".

I think we'll be pleasantly surprised (on both sides of the ball, honestly). :thumb: :thumb:
Maybe so...but, you didn't answer my question.
I'm going to say O-line. 8-) 8-)

Cy Sirmon if he stays healthy. :clap: :clap:
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Re: Dante Lands in Top 10 on Small School NFL Draft List

Post by SoldierGriz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:15 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pm
SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:25 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm
SoldierGriz wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:41 pm
I'm not claiming to have proof. There is no evidence either. Ha ha.

But, I do think the Griz have the athletes required to elevate performance in the secondary. Calhoun, Sandry, and Hauck have unbelievable potential. Calhoun was essentially playing CB as a freshman last year.

I don't think the same way about the O Line. I think they are who they are...and at this point, even the depth brought in remains a big unknown.

Let me ask you this: do the Griz have a better chance at potential All BSC in the secondary, or on the O Line?
Well I don't have proof (or evidence...a subtle distinction, to be sure ;) ) for EITHER side of the ball...but I do believe they now have the athletes on the offensive side as well to elevate their performance. Ganoung. Anderson. Pillans. Mallory. A healthy Villanueva. A larger, more seasoned Sirmon. Keintz. Beaver. Cook. The list goes on and on.

I just think its interesting that you think the SAME guys on the D side can "elevate their performance", but the same guys on the OFFENSIVE side somehow have learned all they're going to learn and "are who they are".

I think we'll be pleasantly surprised (on both sides of the ball, honestly). :thumb: :thumb:
Maybe so...but, you didn't answer my question.
I'm going to say O-line. 8-) 8-)

Cy Sirmon if he stays healthy. :clap: :clap:
Fair enough... :thumb:
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