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Weekly Position Discussion: Week 9, D-Line

BWahlberg

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A little late with our last installment, the D-line.

Smoke is in the air, there are fires everywhere, and it’s finally starting to get a little cooler at night again. That can only mean one thing. Fall camp is just around the corner. The players report this weekend and (closed) practices get underway next week. As we round out the position discussions we’re finishing with what I believe is the best top to bottom unit on the team, the defensive line. Why do I say that? The Griz return 7 players on the D-line with extensive playing time. Each spot is stacked with experience and good depth and they’ve got RS frosh that are coming in which looked great in spring ball as well.

And guess what? As good as this D-line is, it has just 1 senior in the whole group. This squad is going to be good for years.

Defensive Line: Zach Wagenmann, Tyrone Holmes, Tonga Takai, Alex Bienemann, Caleb Kidder, Trevor Rehm, Jesse Ginn, Derek Crittenden, Ryan Johnson, Zach Peevey, Bo Harris.

Projected Depth
DE: Wagenmann (Jr), Peevey (RS-Fr) OR Crittenden (Soph)
DT: Takai (Jr), Rehm (Jr), Ginn (Soph)
DT: Bienemann (Sr), Kidder (Soph), Harris (RS-Fr)
DE: Holmes (Soph), Crittenden (Soph) OR Johnson (RS-Fr)

Strengths / Weaknesses

Zach Wagenmann – Wags has been raking in the pre-season accolades coming of a rock solid breakout year in 2012. Wags is a fast pass rusher that gives slower tackles major fits. I’m told he’s added a bit more upper body size this off-season so far as well. When it’s a pass-rush situation he’s one of the best in the Big Sky getting to the QB. The area I’m hoping to see improved this year is his rush defense. That was shaky at times last season, I saw a little too much confusion or missed opportunities when the ball was run towards Wags.

Tyrone Holmes – Holmes caught a lot of people’s attention when he showed up as a true freshman in fall camp and just wrecked every single tackle he went up against. Now with a full year under his belt the starting spot is his. Another very fast rusher Holmes uses great speed and athleticism to beat blockers. Obviously he’ll need to avoid a sophomore slump and much like Wags clean up his run defense. Holmes has people buzzing he could break all sorts of Big Sky records in years to come. Time will tell.

Tonga Takai – Last year was a huge step for Tonga. He had a solid season and followed up with a good spring camp (that I saw) as well. He’s a work horse in the middle, can break double teams, and forces a lot of runners to go in different directions. Last season he would sometimes fade back a bit, I’ve talked about consistency for him as an ongoing need for improvement – if spring camp was a good indicator he’s getting even better at playing at a top level all of the time.

Alex Bienemann – Not totally sure why but Alex was sunk in depth for a lot of the spring, rumor was some attitude conflicts with the head coach. However anyone that thinks Alex won’t start is kidding themselves. He’s our most versatile and experienced lineman. I’m not sure if he’s missed a start for years. A strong and passionate guy that is a good pass rusher and can shove aside inexperienced interior linemen with ease. Based on last season the one thing I hope we see from Alex is more sideline leadership. It’s been well documented on egriz some videos and scenes of him getting in Delaney’s face after a few games. Alex is the leader of this group and they’ll be looking to him for composure this season.

Caleb Kidder – Get ready Big Sky conference! Kidder had a great spring camp getting after the QB and his run defense is solid. He’s maybe the quickest of the DTs (and the lightest). He’s very fast out of his stance and from what I saw in spring camp he’s got great strength to move blockers back. Expect to see Caleb come in for Takai or Bienemann a lot in passing situations. I’d guess his size/weight isn’t quite there yet to get a lot of reps playing run defense.

Trevor Rehm – Another guy who had a good spring camp. Rehm is just a little larger than Kidder, however what I noticed from him was that he is a little more like your usual D-tackle. Strong and physical in the middle, not as quick on his feet as the D-ends, but close. His size will limit a few reps, I’d guess, but he’s a guy that played good time last year and did tally up 1.5 sacks (just as many as Kidder did). Another great option to use on passing plays.

Jesse Ginn – Has the long awaited arrival of Ginn finally occurred? Jesse had yet another quiet spring in the scrimmages I saw until the very last scrimmage where he absolutely tore it up. He was moving the O-line back, had a few sacks, had a pass deflection, and maybe one of the harder hits in all of the scrimmages I’d seen in the fall. Hopefully this carries over as he’s going to be needed to support our tackles quite a bit this year.

Bo Harris – Didn’t have the spring camp he was hoping for when he was pulled over and accused of a DUI shortly after the spring game in Ronan. I think he sat out the rest of camp. Bo is another one of our D-tackles who is under 270 so I’ll be watching for him this fall to see how he’s progressed.

Zach Peevey – Zach was one of a few breakout players in spring camp. He had a very good spring game with some pressures and a sack. Going from looking/playing like a true freshman last fall camp to the improvements I saw this spring suggests a bright future for him. He’s a big dude, I think our heaviest D-end. Look for him to get some spot duty this year. Footwork and agility need to keep improving, had some issues with screens, mis-direction, and draw plays.

Ryan Johnson – Ryan was the other guy that really caught my attention in spring camp. I recall a batted pass and interception as well as a forced fumble in one scrimmage alone. Johnson’s progression mirrors Peevey’s – big strides. Ryan had a few batted passes across all three scrimmages, he seems to have a good knack to timing his jumps when the QB is passing. Needs to just keep improving, I don’t recall much from him in the 1st scrimmage, hopefully he can find a good level to play consistently.

Derek Crittenden – I’m trying to remember if he played in the last scrimmage. I recall a good start to spring camp with a few sacks and some early write-ups but I’m not sure if he closed out camp or not. Crittenden had some hopes to make a few impressions last season but didn’t really break through. He’s a balanced player that I’ve seen so far, not too flashy as a pass rusher but a solid player. He’ll be rotating in with Peevey and Johnson this year to give Wags and Holmes some rest.
 
This is absolutely our most talented and deep position group. I have been told that Tonga has re-dedicated himself in his workouts and that he will be an absolute monster for entire games this year rather than playing strong and then wearing down late in games. Can't wait to see what this group has - even the freshmen have shown breakout potential in Peevey and Johnson. Also hoping to see Ginn finally breakout. This is going to be a very exciting year!!
 
thanks b/w for the write up.....to me all of our defensive ends should be thanking bieneman as he does all the dirty work....when he crosses the face masks of the tackles/guards on slants, frees the d/e to one on one...it is a thankless job and the glory goes to the d/e...he is a true team player imo...
 
krammer said:
thanks b/w for the write up.....to me all of our defensive ends should be thanking bieneman as he does all the dirty work....when he crosses the face masks of the tackles/guards on slants, frees the d/e to one on one...it is a thankless job and the glory goes to the d/e...he is a true team player imo...

Yep! Stuff like that doesn't show up in the stat books but it leads guys like Wags and Holmes free shots to the QBs.
 
This,coupled with the linebackers, is stout! I believe they were 2nd in rush defense as well as sacks last season. They will rule the trenches :pray:
 
nzone said:
This,coupled with the linebackers, is stout! I believe they were 2nd in rush defense as well as sacks last season. They will rule the trenches :pray:

1st in rush defense allowing 92.5 per game (however one might argue that's b/c we allowed on average 300 passing yards per game so teams didn't run that much on us)

1st in sacks with 40. (MSU had 39 and played 2 more games than the Griz, EWU had 33 and played 3 more games than the Griz)
 
Fact is Tye will have a flatter learning curve, we are relatively healthy and this group is going to be playing with a chip on they're shoulders. Does Holmes remind anyone of Severn Campbell?
 
Thanks for the analysis Wahlberg, its always very informative for people like me who aren't following the X's and O's closely

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I don't like to make predictions because coaching, luck, and team chemistry have alot of say in things. However, I will say that I didn't have high expectations for last year after the firings and Johnson thing.

This year I have a hard time not being very optimistic. Just looking at the roster, experience at key positions, stacked lines, and the speed of the recruits that have been coming in the last couple years, this team looks like it will be hard to beat. I think Joey Counts will be a stud, and I think our offense has all the tools to be both multi-dimensional and dominating in the running game. I think there is no way our defense doesn't make huge strides from last year with all the youth we had. Obviously, secondary improvement will be a major key. I also like that so many are down on the Griz when I see us fielding one of the best teams in recent memory this year. Getting excited for kickoff!
 
Make no mistake... Every team still has you guys circled on the schedule and nobody is down on the griz meaning you won't get their best shot. Everybody wants payback for the years you dominated.
 
nzone said:
Fact is Tye will have a flatter learning curve, we are relatively healthy and this group is going to be playing with a chip on they're shoulders. Does Holmes remind anyone of Severn Campbell?
I like the comparison but Sev Campbell was nowhere near as straight ahead fast as Holmes. Tyrone probably has a bigger frame than Sev too. So yeah, Holmes has a pretty high ceiling to say the least as Campell was unblockable his senior year before the chicken shit move by PSU
 
poorgriz said:
Make no mistake... Every team still has you guys circled on the schedule and nobody is down on the griz meaning you won't get their best shot. Everybody wants payback for the years you dominated.

Good luck to 'em.
 
On time with almost all of the feedback here...however I feel KIDDER is the one to step up well beyond expectations. This guy can be a a$$ kicking machine this year and my dark horse to be packing around #37 next year. :egriz:
 
rimrockgriz said:
On time with almost all of the feedback here...however I feel KIDDER is the one to step up well beyond expectations. This guy can be a a$$ kicking machine this year and my dark horse to be packing around #37 next year. :egriz:

Kidder was a beast in Ronan at the spring game I think he will definitely break onto everyones radar screen this fall.
 
rimrockgriz said:
On time with almost all of the feedback here...however I feel KIDDER is the one to step up well beyond expectations. This guy can be a a$$ kicking machine this year and my dark horse to be packing around #37 next year. :egriz:

My bet would be Tucker Schye and don't forget it doesn't have to be a defensive player.
 
Hammer said:
rimrockgriz said:
On time with almost all of the feedback here...however I feel KIDDER is the one to step up well beyond expectations. This guy can be a a$$ kicking machine this year and my dark horse to be packing around #37 next year. :egriz:

My bet would be Tucker Schye and don't forget it doesn't have to be a defensive player.
Tucker looked like a recently retired Chicago Bear (Brian Urlacher) at the Shrine game this year. He was all over the f.....g place. :o Do you think he'll get his jock wet this year?? :egriz:
 
Teams that beat the Griz last year put up 35, 41, 32, 30, 40 and 16 points. Aside from the MSU game, Montana's offense scored enough points to win those games provided its defense only gave up 20 points and in two games 30 points. In three of its wins Montana still gave up at least 21 points.
Jordan Johnson rocks and the O line is great, I love America and all that, but you're not going to win many games with a defense like that.
Leading the league in sacks or rushing defense is just honorable mention material.
 
nzone said:
Does Holmes remind anyone of Tim Bush?...Mike Murphy?

A review wouldn't be too far off to reconsider: http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?t=46186" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;%p=590056

A distinctive possibility looms...
 
griz4life said:
Teams that beat the Griz last year put up 35, 41, 32, 30, 40 and 16 points. Aside from the MSU game, Montana's offense scored enough points to win those games provided its defense only gave up 20 points and in two games 30 points. In three of its wins Montana still gave up at least 21 points.
Jordan Johnson rocks and the O line is great, I love America and all that, but you're not going to win many games with a defense like that.
Leading the league in sacks or rushing defense is just honorable mention material.
We have always prided ourselves on a strong D and last year i was absolutely abysmal. That said The D seems to be on the upswing and our weakest link, pass D, will get fixed if our couches are paying any attention. We were REALLY good in every single other stat besides that, and with 10 returning starters on D we are set for a solid D. I would say top 5 D in the FCS!
 
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