UMFan12 said:Defense wins championships.
Griz1 said:Baylor definitely has some quicks and hops.
EverettGriz said:Play that game 10 times and the Zags win at least five of them. Baylor was just far better last night, and the Zags were a tired crew, both mentally and physically. It's not always good to be unbeaten.
Whether or not they’ve been preparing the entire season for it doesn’t change the fact that almost all the starters played over 40 minutes with just a days rest between, while their opponents blew the doors off Houston and got the starters out early.Mousegriz said:EverettGriz said:Play that game 10 times and the Zags win at least five of them. Baylor was just far better last night, and the Zags were a tired crew, both mentally and physically. It's not always good to be unbeaten.
Don't disagree that Gonzaga could beat Baylor in "some" out of ten. Can't quite buy the "tired crew" comment though. College kids aren't going to be "tired" for a national title game they've been gearing towards all season. Always interesting how "tired" comes into conversations that also include "loss". Gonzaga was proven to be a very good team that lacked a bit defensively in each of its last two games. Baylor's defense was the difference in the game.
UMFan12 said:Whether or not they’ve been preparing the entire season for it doesn’t change the fact that almost all the starters played over 40 minutes with just a days rest between, while their opponents blew the doors off Houston and got the starters out early.Mousegriz said:Don't disagree that Gonzaga could beat Baylor in "some" out of ten. Can't quite buy the "tired crew" comment though. College kids aren't going to be "tired" for a national title game they've been gearing towards all season. Always interesting how "tired" comes into conversations that also include "loss". Gonzaga was proven to be a very good team that lacked a bit defensively in each of its last two games. Baylor's defense was the difference in the game.
Mavman said:UMFan12 said:Whether or not they’ve been preparing the entire season for it doesn’t change the fact that almost all the starters played over 40 minutes with just a days rest between, while their opponents blew the doors off Houston and got the starters out early.
All of which is the beauty of march madness. If Gonzaga would have played better against UCLA their starters could have gotten rest.
Gonzaga is a top tier team year in and year out they have nothing to be ashamed of. That being said no excuses when you are the top team in the championship game, they got out hustled, abused on the glass and Baylors depth made a big impact.
UMFan12 said:Whether or not they’ve been preparing the entire season for it doesn’t change the fact that almost all the starters played over 40 minutes with just a days rest between, while their opponents blew the doors off Houston and got the starters out early.Mousegriz said:Don't disagree that Gonzaga could beat Baylor in "some" out of ten. Can't quite buy the "tired crew" comment though. College kids aren't going to be "tired" for a national title game they've been gearing towards all season. Always interesting how "tired" comes into conversations that also include "loss". Gonzaga was proven to be a very good team that lacked a bit defensively in each of its last two games. Baylor's defense was the difference in the game.
Mousegriz said:UMFan12 said:Whether or not they’ve been preparing the entire season for it doesn’t change the fact that almost all the starters played over 40 minutes with just a days rest between, while their opponents blew the doors off Houston and got the starters out early.
40 minutes of clock...... 10 long TV timeouts every 4 minutes of game clock....extra long halftime.......8 additional team timeouts...... inevitable replay reviews 2 or 3 times in the last couple minutes of the game.... 18 to 21 year old kids in the finest shape of their lives.
Why is it always the loser that's so tired? Was Gonzaga their "tiredest" when Baylor went up 9 - 0 in the first couple minutes of the game?
"Tired" is a weak excuse no Gonzaga player or coach would ever use.
fanofzoo said:Mousegriz said:40 minutes of clock...... 10 long TV timeouts every 4 minutes of game clock....extra long halftime.......8 additional team timeouts...... inevitable replay reviews 2 or 3 times in the last couple minutes of the game.... 18 to 21 year old kids in the finest shape of their lives.
Why is it always the loser that's so tired? Was Gonzaga their "tiredest" when Baylor went up 9 - 0 in the first couple minutes of the game?
"Tired" is a weak excuse no Gonzaga player or coach would ever use.
If the zags ever want to win they need to get out of that bsc like conference, they play 4 to 5 hard games and then of the season play cupcakes !
EverettGriz said:Absolutely no excuses. Not that Few or anyone associated with the Zag program would make them in any event. But if you don't believe that both physical and emotional exhaustion played a part in that game, I'm at a loss as to what to say. Baylor is terrific, and was my pick to be champion. Saying the Zags were tired bunch doesn't take ANYthing away from Baylor.
As for playing top teams, the Zags scheduled Kansas, Auburn, West VA, Baylor, Iowa and Virginia (Baylor was canceled due to Covid). They won all of those games by 10 or more with the exception of WV. Three of those teams finished in the TOP FIVE in the nation, two more were in the top 20. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I don't think weak scheduling is an issue....
EverettGriz said:Absolutely no excuses. Not that Few or anyone associated with the Zag program would make them in any event. But if you don't believe that both physical and emotional exhaustion played a part in that game, I'm at a loss as to what to say. Baylor is terrific, and was my pick to be champion. Saying the Zags were tired bunch doesn't take ANYthing away from Baylor.
As for playing top teams, the Zags scheduled Kansas, Auburn, West VA, Baylor, Iowa and Virginia (Baylor was canceled due to Covid). They won all of those games by 10 or more with the exception of WV. Three of those teams finished in the TOP FIVE in the nation, two more were in the top 20. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I don't think weak scheduling is an issue....