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china/ccp

mthoopsfan said:
My HK friends invited me to the 7's in late March.

just bring an unused burner phone and computer, and watch what you say at all times so as to not offend the ccp. no thanks, but to each his own.
 
mthoopsfan said:
My HK friends invited me to the 7's in late March.

just an fyi, in hong kong the ccp is now arresting and jailing non-chinese (or hk) individuals for anti-ccp posts made from outside china, claiming they are threatening their 'national security'. here is a story about a portuguese citizen who returned to hk to take care of his ill mother, and was arrested for posts that seem to have been made from the uk, where he is affiliated with the royal music schoo in londonl: https://hongkongfp.com/2022/11/03/portuguese-man-charged-under-hong-kong-sedition-law-over-online-posts-denied-bail/
 
before a rugby match between hong kong and a south korean team, in south korea, the hong kong 2019 protest song was played instead of the chinese anthem. the koreans apologized, played the ccp anthem at the end of the match, and explained in detail how it happened by accident. of course, the ccp is having a fit about it, and want to continue to blather on, despite the apology, etc... they are also calling for a police investigation and want to charge whoever made the mistake with 'sedition', even though that person is a korean citizen and just made a mistake, that was built on somebody else's mistake. here's an article from the south china morning post: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3199497/hong-kong-demands-full-investigation-after-2019-protest-song-played-korean-rugby-tournament-instead?module=more_top_stories_int&pgtype=homepage

in other news, a rich chinese couple berated an old man and made him get on his knees and apologize to their car, because some leaves he was sweeping up touched the car. charming people, the new rich of china: https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3199553/kneel-or-well-beat-you-death-elderly-cleaner-china-forced-down-knees-apologise-accidentally-sweeping?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage
 
"The Hong Kong government on Monday demanded “a full and in-depth investigation” after a song associated with the pro-democracy protests of 2019 was played instead of the Chinese national anthem before a match by the city’s rugby sevens team at a tournament in Incheon, South Korea.

On Sunday, as Hong Kong players stood shoulder-to-shoulder before a match against South Korea, the protest song “Glory to Hong Kong” blared through stadium speakers. Organizers were supposed to have played the anthem of the home countries of both teams. As a semiautonomous Chinese territory, Hong Kong shares China’s national anthem, “March of the Volunteers.”

Asia Rugby and the Korea Rugby Union extended joint apologies to the governments of Hong Kong and China. In a statement, Asia Rugby said that the mix-up resulted from a “simple human error,” when a junior member of the local organizing committee in South Korea played a song downloaded online rather than the anthem. The organizers said they removed the original footage of the match and replaced audio of the protest song with the Chinese anthem."

NY Times article.
 
argh! said:
before a rugby match between hong kong and a south korean team, in south korea, the hong kong 2019 protest song was played instead of the chinese anthem. the koreans apologized, played the ccp anthem at the end of the match, and explained in detail how it happened by accident. of course, the ccp is having a fit about it, and want to continue to blather on, despite the apology, etc... they are also calling for a police investigation and want to charge whoever made the mistake with 'sedition', even though that person is a korean citizen and just made a mistake, that was built on somebody else's mistake. here's an article from the south china morning post: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3199497/hong-kong-demands-full-investigation-after-2019-protest-song-played-korean-rugby-tournament-instead?module=more_top_stories_int&pgtype=homepage

in other news, a rich chinese couple berated an old man and made him get on his knees and apologize to their car, because some leaves he was sweeping up touched the car. charming people, the new rich of china: https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3199553/kneel-or-well-beat-you-death-elderly-cleaner-china-forced-down-knees-apologise-accidentally-sweeping?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage

Ha. I just posted this before looking at your post.
 
argh! said:
mthoopsfan said:
My HK friends invited me to the 7's in late March.

just an fyi, in hong kong the ccp is now arresting and jailing non-chinese (or hk) individuals for anti-ccp posts made from outside china, claiming they are threatening their 'national security'. here is a story about a portuguese citizen who returned to hk to take care of his ill mother, and was arrested for posts that seem to have been made from the uk, where he is affiliated with the royal music schoo in londonl: https://hongkongfp.com/2022/11/03/portuguese-man-charged-under-hong-kong-sedition-law-over-online-posts-denied-bail/

I had been warned about this years ago, before I visited China. I've noticed that my HK friends don't reply to anything in my emails that ask how HK is, or "is HK lost". They've just ignored that. I probably won't be able to go to the HK 7's, if I wanted to, because I am now associated with you on egriz.
 
mthoopsfan said:
argh! said:
just an fyi, in hong kong the ccp is now arresting and jailing non-chinese (or hk) individuals for anti-ccp posts made from outside china, claiming they are threatening their 'national security'. here is a story about a portuguese citizen who returned to hk to take care of his ill mother, and was arrested for posts that seem to have been made from the uk, where he is affiliated with the royal music schoo in londonl: https://hongkongfp.com/2022/11/03/portuguese-man-charged-under-hong-kong-sedition-law-over-online-posts-denied-bail/

I had been warned about this years ago, before I visited China. I've noticed that my HK friends don't reply to anything in my emails that ask how HK is, or "is HK lost". They've just ignored that. I probably won't be able to go to the HK 7's, if I wanted to, because I am now associated with you on egriz.

i don't think anybody in the ccp sees me as a threat to their government, and i doubt they've got somebody reading egriz, but i personally wouldn't step a foot in hong kong anyway. i think you are safe, but maybe not those at this hk restaurant chain, which is offering 50% off for anyone with a south korean passport. here's the blurb, followed by the article, from a korean paper:
"Cafe de JarGor, a local food restaurant chain in Hong Kong that is known to support the anti-government movement and is vocal about anti-government issues, posted on Instagram that they will give a 50 percent discount to Korean passport holders that visit its restaurants for dinner today with the hashtag, "#thankyou" in Korean."

whole article: https://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2022/11/600_339811.html
 
so a friend in china was on the way to a hot date with some guy, stopped in a building on the way and... is now waiting to be taken to a quarantine hotel, because somebody in the building tested positive. she'll spend at least a week, and probably get charged for it. she has some unpleasant words for her government.

edit - her last comment when signing into the hotel was "it looks like jail".
 
it isn't in the news, but there are apparently big protests in southern china, from east to west. i don't think 'dynamic zero covid' is going to last much longer.
 
protests and even riots all over the place right now. many more than being reported. the chinese people have obviously had enough.
 
from zero covid to no plan... this article does a pretty good of describing things in china lately (link below). i wouldn't be surprised if there are a couple hundred million with it now. everybody, literally, i know in one city has or just had covid. some of them have it bad, even though it is omicron. that is both because of shitty vaccines, and apparently because people didn't trust them and figured out a way to fake that they had received them. one friend has lost her senses of taste and smell, plus much of her hearing. she's got to go to work anyway. i'm starting to see friends posting about losing grandparents, and it has been what, two weeks? yet people are acting like it is christmas day and they are 'free', going out to bars etc, while their friends are dropping like flies. too many people in too small a place describes the populated part of china. it will be interesting to see how the government fakes their way out of this. they've already got everybody to stop calling it covid, and say they have the flu or a cold or whatever. jeezus those people are some easily controllable motherfuckers.

does anybody read these still?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/19/world/asia/china-zero-covid-xi-jinping.html
 
ok, i'll keep going. china keeps reporting zero deaths, but that is so absurd, even the people laugh at it. and with the lunar new year around the corner, it is going to get ugly. very ugly. this article from the south china morning post details the mass of humanity that is about to get on crowded trains and buses, and bring covid out of the big cities, which actually have semi-passable health care. once it hits all the 'small' below 5 million people cities, it is bound to be ugly. here's the article: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3204489/covid-china-cities-offer-bleak-estimates-daily-infections?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage
 
argh! said:
ok, i'll keep going. china keeps reporting zero deaths, but that is so absurd, even the people laugh at it. and with the lunar new year around the corner, it is going to get ugly. very ugly. this article from the south china morning post details the mass of humanity that is about to get on crowded trains and buses, and bring covid out of the big cities, which actually have semi-passable health care. once it hits all the 'small' below 5 million people cities, it is bound to be ugly. here's the article: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3204489/covid-china-cities-offer-bleak-estimates-daily-infections?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage

Little immunity and not enough vaccines especially with elderly. Going to be a horrible mess. Hospitals and ERs already full. Time to invade Taiwan.
 
Many healthcare workers are working with covid.

"Questions also abound about the number of Covid-related deaths China is reporting because officials only count those who die from respiratory failure directly linked to a Covid infection. Officially, seven people have died from the virus since pandemic rules were relaxed on Dec. 7, a number that belies mounting anecdotal evidence from across the country — from the crush of hearses outside a crematory in Beijing to the overflow of yellow body bags at some funeral homes.

A Shanghai hospital predicted half of Shanghai’s 25 million residents would eventually be infected and warned its staff of a “tragic battle” in the coming weeks, according to a now-deleted statement the hospital posted last week on the social media platform WeChat.

“In this tragic battle, all of Shanghai will fall, and all the staff of the hospital will be infected! Our whole families will be infected! Our patients will all be infected!” the statement read. “We have no choice, and we cannot escape.”

ny times.
 
mthoopsfan said:
argh! said:
ok, i'll keep going. china keeps reporting zero deaths, but that is so absurd, even the people laugh at it. and with the lunar new year around the corner, it is going to get ugly. very ugly. this article from the south china morning post details the mass of humanity that is about to get on crowded trains and buses, and bring covid out of the big cities, which actually have semi-passable health care. once it hits all the 'small' below 5 million people cities, it is bound to be ugly. here's the article: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3204489/covid-china-cities-offer-bleak-estimates-daily-infections?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage

Little immunity and not enough vaccines especially with elderly. Going to be a horrible mess. Hospitals and ERs already full. Time to invade Taiwan.

except the pla (army) will all be going through the same thing as the people. sigh. a friend of mine who is a specialist doctor told me yesterday that her hospital is "chaos" right now, and it is one of the best hospitals in all of china. she looked exhausted and mentally frazzled during our video call, and said everyone she worked with was like that now. just think - they are only two weeks in, and are now opening international travel without without any quarantine of health apps on the 8th of january. i fear for the mental health of the people i know, it has been such a bizarre three years for them. it has been for the whole world, really.
 
"Half of the passengers on 2 flights from China had COVID: report
Travelers headed to Italy from China will now be required to test for COVID, health authorities said on Wednesday, just days after half of the passengers on two separate flights to Milan tested positive for the virus."

Read in New York Post: https://apple.news/AzL4zm-pvRZek22A3Oif6AA
 
mthoopsfan said:
Many healthcare workers are working with covid.

"Questions also abound about the number of Covid-related deaths China is reporting because officials only count those who die from respiratory failure directly linked to a Covid infection. Officially, seven people have died from the virus since pandemic rules were relaxed on Dec. 7, a number that belies mounting anecdotal evidence from across the country — from the crush of hearses outside a crematory in Beijing to the overflow of yellow body bags at some funeral homes.

i have a friend who is (was) a specialist at the best hospital in her very heavily populated province. she was planning on quitting anyway, so i practically begged her to quit going to work and dealing with covid patients while she was sick, which was what she was being forced to do, even though that isn't her field. but she wanted her stupid year end bonus before quitting, so she let the abuse continue. now she's a patient in her own hospital, on oxygen and with heart problems from working so long with untreated covid (their vaccines suck). she finally resigned her position. she says there are many others like her. the whole thing makes me so f-ing mad...
 
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