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Broken Brackets NCAA Tourney
- Thread starter CleanHOUSE
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Given the results so far I got to wondering if there has ever been a perfect bracket picked on the losing side of things? It occurs to me that it might be every bit as difficult to pick every loser as it is to pick every winner!
Despite protestations to the contrary, this country has a long history of rewarding mediocrity. There should be some sort of compensation for anyone who picks a perfect losing bracket!
Despite protestations to the contrary, this country has a long history of rewarding mediocrity. There should be some sort of compensation for anyone who picks a perfect losing bracket!
IdaGriz01
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As expected, Maryland got buried by Alabama, 96-77. Still, Michigan at least gave the Big Ten one team in the Sweet Sixteen by knocking off LSU.
As noted earlier, UCLA won, but Colorado lost (badly) to Florida State. Right now USC is leading Kansas by 19 with less than 16 min left in the game. That holds up, the Pac-12 would end up with four of the Sweet Sixteen. So much for the "experts."
As noted earlier, UCLA won, but Colorado lost (badly) to Florida State. Right now USC is leading Kansas by 19 with less than 16 min left in the game. That holds up, the Pac-12 would end up with four of the Sweet Sixteen. So much for the "experts."
IdaGriz01
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How the conferences fared for the Sweet Sixteen:
American . . . 1 of 2 bids made it
Atlantic Coast . . . 2 of 7
Atlantic-10 . . . 0 of 2 (one out by COVID)*
Big-12 . . . 1 of 7
Big East . . . 2 of 4
Big Ten . . . 1 of 9
MVC . . . 1 of 2
Mt West . . . 0 of 2*
Pac-12 . . . 4 of 5
SEC . . . 2 of 6
Summit . . . 1 of 1**
West Coast . . . 1 of 2
* Included these for comparison to other multi-bid conferences.
** For obvious reasons, I did not include any of the other one-bid conferences that are long gone.
Besides the obvious disaster for the Big Ten, two points jump out.
First, the “experts” have bad-mouthed the Pac-12 all year long. Yet there they are with four teams out of their five bids. Of course, with 4 spots out of 16, it was pretty much inevitable that two would meet in the next round: thus, either Oregon or USC will get bumped.
Another “expert” take was that the Big-12 was also a big deal. That was shown by the fact that five of their seven bids were seeded #4 or better. Yet only Baylor is left. (Along those lines, note that five of nine Big Ten teams were seeded #4 or better.) That's 16 bids (just under a quarter of the field) winnowed down to just two survivors.
Hmmm…
American . . . 1 of 2 bids made it
Atlantic Coast . . . 2 of 7
Atlantic-10 . . . 0 of 2 (one out by COVID)*
Big-12 . . . 1 of 7
Big East . . . 2 of 4
Big Ten . . . 1 of 9
MVC . . . 1 of 2
Mt West . . . 0 of 2*
Pac-12 . . . 4 of 5
SEC . . . 2 of 6
Summit . . . 1 of 1**
West Coast . . . 1 of 2
* Included these for comparison to other multi-bid conferences.
** For obvious reasons, I did not include any of the other one-bid conferences that are long gone.
Besides the obvious disaster for the Big Ten, two points jump out.
First, the “experts” have bad-mouthed the Pac-12 all year long. Yet there they are with four teams out of their five bids. Of course, with 4 spots out of 16, it was pretty much inevitable that two would meet in the next round: thus, either Oregon or USC will get bumped.
Another “expert” take was that the Big-12 was also a big deal. That was shown by the fact that five of their seven bids were seeded #4 or better. Yet only Baylor is left. (Along those lines, note that five of nine Big Ten teams were seeded #4 or better.) That's 16 bids (just under a quarter of the field) winnowed down to just two survivors.
Hmmm…
IdaGriz01
Well-known member
I heard some sports commentator pontificating about the “unprecedented” number of double-digit seeds that have made it to the Sweet Sixteen. Also, despite the drastic problems caused by the pandemic, others are asserting that this shows how “the mid-majors have finally arrived.” I guess they have to have something to write/talk about.
But it got me to wondering just how different (or not) this year really is. Turns out, it is very different, but not “unprecedented” in the way the guy thought.
FYI: The 2010-2011 season was the last time there were four double-digit seeded teams in the Sweet Sixteen: Marquette, Richmond, VCU, and Florida State. (Hardly a huge influx of mid-majors there, BTW.)
So it's not unprecedented, but he was partly right. On average over the years since then, only about 2 double-digit seeds have made it into the Sweet Sixteen. And in three recent years (2015, 2017, 2019), only one made it.
The second big difference is on the other end. Over that same span since 2010, at least ten -- and often more -- of the Sweet Sixteen teams are seeded #4 or better. So, having only seven this year is certainly outside the norm.
On the other hand, anyone who thinks these differences might signal a trend is just trying to show off.
But it got me to wondering just how different (or not) this year really is. Turns out, it is very different, but not “unprecedented” in the way the guy thought.
FYI: The 2010-2011 season was the last time there were four double-digit seeded teams in the Sweet Sixteen: Marquette, Richmond, VCU, and Florida State. (Hardly a huge influx of mid-majors there, BTW.)
So it's not unprecedented, but he was partly right. On average over the years since then, only about 2 double-digit seeds have made it into the Sweet Sixteen. And in three recent years (2015, 2017, 2019), only one made it.
The second big difference is on the other end. Over that same span since 2010, at least ten -- and often more -- of the Sweet Sixteen teams are seeded #4 or better. So, having only seven this year is certainly outside the norm.
On the other hand, anyone who thinks these differences might signal a trend is just trying to show off.
It's now 79-72 with 38 sec left in the OT.
