SACCAT66 said:AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!
So the Cats were leading against a #14 team with 4 minutes left, and lose... And the overall sentiment is that Utah State is "trash"... Griz need something like a 14-0 run at the end of the game to MAKE IT a 11ish point loss, and they say that they are GREAT?! People on here saying that "a loss is a loss" but then turning around and saying that the griz loss to Stanford shows they are competitive? What the hell... At least be objective. Did the Cats close game mean anything?... Plrobably not... Did the griz loss mean anything? Probably not... But dont play both sides... You are all better than that... COME ON.
While you're right, Cats fans and various commentators raved about him for the first 3 years but want to downplay him afterwards. It isnt our fault they couldnt develop him. Also that would be a problem if he was a bad shooter, but he shot above 40% from 3 through his career. Also just to play devil's advocate, he finished 7th in career steals and 10th in career assists at MSU. Obviously he played 4 years, but still impressive numbers nonetheless.AZGrizFan said:Grizbballfan14 said:Harold Fray is an outstanding talent, we've all known this since his freshman year. At the same time, MSU just lost their best player in history to graduation. As good as Harold fray is he still wasnt able to take advantage of having Tyler Hall, the all time leading scorer in big sky conference history, as a teammate.
I acknowledge that an argument could easily be made to say that poor coaching was the issue. I will even concede that Sprinkle will be better for the Cats than Fish, if for no other reason than his connection to the program. What I wont concede, is that the cats are a contender already. They are bigger than us, but play a lot of unproven juco and d2 transfers. Also, I personally dont think Utah State is a top 25 team.
No, I did not watch or listen to the game last night. What I do know is last year was Utah State's first tournament appearance in almost a decade and they lost in the first round to Washington (who should be ranked with the amount of talent they have, but inexplicably is not). I dont trust any mid major teams in the preseason top 25 if they dont play in the West Coast Conference.
We play a lot of unproven freshmen, and Tyler Hall was a black hole. Never saw a shot he didn’t like. HORRIBLE as a teammate to have a guy play like that.
Utah State beat Weber State by 55, and if possible the game wasn't as close as the score would indicate. Weber was down by 35 at half,35!!!.Grizbballfan14 said:SACCAT66 said:AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!
So the Cats were leading against a #14 team with 4 minutes left, and lose... And the overall sentiment is that Utah State is "trash"... Griz need something like a 14-0 run at the end of the game to MAKE IT a 11ish point loss, and they say that they are GREAT?! People on here saying that "a loss is a loss" but then turning around and saying that the griz loss to Stanford shows they are competitive? What the hell... At least be objective. Did the Cats close game mean anything?... Plrobably not... Did the griz loss mean anything? Probably not... But dont play both sides... You are all better than that... COME ON.
See above where I stated that my assessment had nothing to do with MSU and everything to do with my opinion of Utah State going into the game. I was genuinely impressed by the cats, as was EVERYONE else on this board. That doesnt mean that Utah State is a top 25 team.
A close loss against a top 40 or top 50 team is still impressive and was admittedly better than the Griz game. That said, if you dont want to read negative comments about the Cats, stay off of eGriz. I've never understood the intent. The only time I ever go on BN is to read Vim's high school preview and I have to open an incognito tab to even feel good about doing that.
braves84 said:Utah State beat Weber State by 55, and if possible the game wasn't as close as the score would indicate. Weber was down by 35 at half,35!!!.Grizbballfan14 said:SACCAT66 said:AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!
So the Cats were leading against a #14 team with 4 minutes left, and lose... And the overall sentiment is that Utah State is "trash"... Griz need something like a 14-0 run at the end of the game to MAKE IT a 11ish point loss, and they say that they are GREAT?! People on here saying that "a loss is a loss" but then turning around and saying that the griz loss to Stanford shows they are competitive? What the hell... At least be objective. Did the Cats close game mean anything?... Plrobably not... Did the griz loss mean anything? Probably not... But dont play both sides... You are all better than that... COME ON.
See above where I stated that my assessment had nothing to do with MSU and everything to do with my opinion of Utah State going into the game. I was genuinely impressed by the cats, as was EVERYONE else on this board. That doesnt mean that Utah State is a top 25 team.
A close loss against a top 40 or top 50 team is still impressive and was admittedly better than the Griz game. That said, if you dont want to read negative comments about the Cats, stay off of eGriz. I've never understood the intent. The only time I ever go on BN is to read Vim's high school preview and I have to open an incognito tab to even feel good about doing that.
grizzlyjournal said:braves84 said:Utah State beat Weber State by 55, and if possible the game wasn't as close as the score would indicate. Weber was down by 35 at half,35!!!.Grizbballfan14 said:SACCAT66 said:AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!
So the Cats were leading against a #14 team with 4 minutes left, and lose... And the overall sentiment is that Utah State is "trash"... Griz need something like a 14-0 run at the end of the game to MAKE IT a 11ish point loss, and they say that they are GREAT?! People on here saying that "a loss is a loss" but then turning around and saying that the griz loss to Stanford shows they are competitive? What the hell... At least be objective. Did the Cats close game mean anything?... Plrobably not... Did the griz loss mean anything? Probably not... But dont play both sides... You are all better than that... COME ON.
See above where I stated that my assessment had nothing to do with MSU and everything to do with my opinion of Utah State going into the game. I was genuinely impressed by the cats, as was EVERYONE else on this board. That doesnt mean that Utah State is a top 25 team.
A close loss against a top 40 or top 50 team is still impressive and was admittedly better than the Griz game. That said, if you dont want to read negative comments about the Cats, stay off of eGriz. I've never understood the intent. The only time I ever go on BN is to read Vim's high school preview and I have to open an incognito tab to even feel good about doing that.
Weber State has had two setbacks of late. Jerrick Harding did not play... still recuperating from foot surgery about a month ago (approx.). Then, a quality backup guard, Caleb Nero, a sophomore, decided to transfer about a month ago as well. One of the Wildcats' two freshman guards, KJ Cunningham playes (scored 5). The other, Jordan, not mentioned in the box. So, the Wildcats were definitely playing the Aggies short-handed.