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[grizfnz]

Nope try again

Can you just post whatever code section you're talking about? I'd like to know as well.

I’d like him to post it as well. Especially since Missoula County, in anticipation of “full speed ahead” approach proposed by GG, adopted a rule that allow them to be more restrictive and keep the current mask mandate in place until they lift it or revise it.

 

[BozAngelesGriz]

attendance was trending down before Covid. the 2017 season saw the lowest levels in the previous 10 years, and while 2018 was up a bit (can't find the numbers for the 2019 season?) unfortunately i don't see us getting back to previous peak levels for a long time...if ever. people just aren't watching sports in person as much. when full attendance is allowed (be that this fall or the following year) i would expect average attendance around 17-18k. people will be 'out of the habit' of going to games, so to speak. i'll still be there.

I think that's overly pessimistic. While there are some unfavorable drivers (e.g., aging fanbase, more TV) depressing attendance, fans having their football and tailgates withheld may make them all the more hungry. Attendance figures are readily available on the NCAA website. Several factors affect average attendance, home schedule quality, weather/road conditions, and whether there were home playoff games, which have always produced subpar attendance, depressing the averages. So here are your 10 years:

2019 - 22,545 (1 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2018 - 24,677 (0 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2017 - 23,535 (0 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2016 - 25,377 (0 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2015 - 24,139 (1 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2014 - 23,777 (1 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2013 - 24,380 (1 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2012 - 25,236 (0 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2011 - 24,878 (2 playoff game) - #3 in FCS
2010 - 25,448 (0 playoff game) - #2 in FCS

The trend you claim escapes me; if there is one, it's very small. 2019 looks more like an outlier driven mostly by the woeful playoff game attendance of 16,550. The average of the regular season games was 23,544.

thanks for those numbers. are those announced attendance or number of tickets sold?

 

[kemajic]

I think that's overly pessimistic. While there are some unfavorable drivers (e.g., aging fanbase, more TV) depressing attendance, fans having their football and tailgates withheld may make them all the more hungry. Attendance figures are readily available on the NCAA website. Several factors affect average attendance, home schedule quality, weather/road conditions, and whether there were home playoff games, which have always produced subpar attendance, depressing the averages. So here are your 10 years:

2019 - 22,545 (1 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2018 - 24,677 (0 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2017 - 23,535 (0 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2016 - 25,377 (0 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2015 - 24,139 (1 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2014 - 23,777 (1 playoff game) - #1 in FCS
2013 - 24,380 (1 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2012 - 25,236 (0 playoff game) - #2 in FCS
2011 - 24,878 (2 playoff game) - #3 in FCS
2010 - 25,448 (0 playoff game) - #2 in FCS

The trend you claim escapes me; if there is one, it's very small. 2019 looks more like an outlier driven mostly by the woeful playoff game attendance of 16,550. The average of the regular season games was 23,544.

thanks for those numbers. are those announced attendance or number of tickets sold?

I believe they are both the same, an NCAA standard. The rub comes in with season ticket holder no-shows, which do appear to be on the increase in my observation (no data). Those tickets are sold, so these figures likely do not represent a count of butts in the seats. This also helps explain (not the only reason) playoff game depression when season ticket holders must act to buy their seats and many elect to not do so. So it's probable playoff game attendance is very close to the count of butts in the seats. All this could suggest a preview of eroding future season ticket sales. A RTD could fix that.