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Sac St - Match Up Nightmare

DriscollCat said:
I guess it wasn’t all that crazy that we might score 40+

And it’s also not that crazy that little brother is over here posting on our board every second he gets. go the fuck away douche nozzle
 
HookedonGriz said:
DriscollCat said:
I guess it wasn’t all that crazy that we might score 40+

And it’s also not that crazy that little brother is over here posting on our board every second he gets. go the f*** away douche nozzle

I’m posting about a prediction made about the Cats. Guess what, that happens a lot over here.
 
mtgrizfankb said:
HookedonGriz said:
My gut tells me many are chalking this Sac St game up as a easy win. Last time they came to Missoula, they were blown away by 50 pts. This is not that Sac St team.

Football is always a game of match ups and the match ups in this game favor Sac St on many levels.

- QB Kevin Thompson was recruited to UNLV and is a good passer and great runner. He will have some success exploiting our man coverage
- their O Line is very solid
- their D line is quite possibly the tops in the league
- their overall talent and speed matches or exceeds the Griz
- one of the better secondary units in the league
- seasoned coaches who turned this team into a 7–4 team last year
- they took some lumps for a few years but now are littered with 2-3 year veteran starters

We have some nightmare match ups in their D Line vs our O Line and their QB and speedster receivers vs our man coverage in secondary. Also a very seasoned and veteran team vs our youth.

Hold on kids this will not be an easy win and has me a bit worried.

their line is okay. probably talent level of drake but less experienced.
Their D line is decent but not as good as either WIU or UNI.
They have WR speed...lucky that's also what our defense's best attribute.
Their secondary is decent talent wise but communication has not looked great (same problem their coach had here)

Overall their run game is what I think keeps them in games. They don't look good when they can't run the ball. So far, our run D has been pretty good due to our superior linebacker play. They have not shown ability to maintain drives.

UNCO: They had 1 drive vs UNCO for 8 plays, 1 for 7(didn't score) and 1 for 6. all the rest were less than 5 plays. 3 of the 4 scoring drives started inside UNCO territory. They gave up 26 First Downs to UNCO. Gave up 50% 3rd downs and converted 38%. UNCO ran 90 plays on them. One RB had 4 carries and 2 fumbles lost. Their top DL has 7 tackles on the year. 4.5 of those are sacks tho. most their tackling is done by DBs. WR's don't catch the ball a lot but when they do they are long plays. most receptions on the team is 9.

SDSU: I know people will say: They played SDSU tough. No SDSU played themselves tough. Sac had 10 first downs. 33% 3rd down conversion. 230 yards of total offense. SDSU threw 2 Ints in the redzone and sacked 2 times to take them out of FG range on 3rd down. SDSU just played awful. Still racked up 430 total offense. Killed themselves with 8 penalties but held the ball for 36 minutes of the game.

When you go back and watch them play so far this year, they are just so inconsistent. They make a 40 yard run and then stuffed for 3 plays. They throw 5 of 6 on a drive for a TD. Next drive they go 3 and out with 2 sacks. When they get in the redzone they score...no doubt about it. However, when they have a field to go. 60+ yards... they have a hard time keeping things together that long. Yes I think they have a lot of pure talent on that team. I think they have all the issues past griz teams have had. Inconsistent offense. Poor Defensive communication. They have not turned the ball over much this year besides one poor RB. They don't throw interceptions because a lot of their passes are overthrown deep. Streak routes, posts and such will be the main routes to watch. Safety communication will need to improve. I imagine we see a fair amount of cover 2 playing Sac, trying to get help over the top. Sac does not throw down much to the RBs so we should see CBs trailing WRs and forcing good passes. They do have a few TEs they throw the ball too every now and then. LBs and safeties will take most of those duties you presume with the 4-2-5. I see us bringing a LOT of LB blitz to stop the run and to put pressure on the QB. Sac likes developed routes and if we can cause the QB to check out of those or throw early we might be able to get a TO or two. Once again the D needs to just contain this Offense as they don't put together long through drives.

On offense we need to just get in rythem. timing routes will be essential. I liked when we used motion the last game we had more luck running up the middle. drawing ends and LBs eyes to the WR in motion caused some room for our struggling line to get a push. When the LBs and ends didn't cheat out Sneed and JLM had some room on the corners to take the ball and get the edge. look for more of this I would imagine. We also saw some new routes from the WRs last game. We ran 2 zig routes that were wide open but sneed over shot them. Both had the edge if the throw was on time. Sneed also missed a few longer passes where we need to give our WRs a shot to make the play. I think we will find ourselves moving the ball vs Sac and I am hoping some running game will continue to develop this weekend.

At the end of the day I think we will see a similar situation to last week. Sac might hit a few big plays but majority of the game our defense should lock them down pretty well. I think we find ourselves up 10-17 in the 4th quarter and we will see if we can make the right decisions and finish this one out, unlike last week. I see the griz coming home strong in this one winning by 10+ atleast. After watching Sac film... I would say 31-17 Griz.

I just gotta give KB another shoutout here. He literally almost called the entire game. Great pre-game analysis that turned out to be spot on.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mtgrizfankb said:
HookedonGriz said:
My gut tells me many are chalking this Sac St game up as a easy win. Last time they came to Missoula, they were blown away by 50 pts. This is not that Sac St team.

Football is always a game of match ups and the match ups in this game favor Sac St on many levels.

- QB Kevin Thompson was recruited to UNLV and is a good passer and great runner. He will have some success exploiting our man coverage
- their O Line is very solid
- their D line is quite possibly the tops in the league
- their overall talent and speed matches or exceeds the Griz
- one of the better secondary units in the league
- seasoned coaches who turned this team into a 7–4 team last year
- they took some lumps for a few years but now are littered with 2-3 year veteran starters

We have some nightmare match ups in their D Line vs our O Line and their QB and speedster receivers vs our man coverage in secondary. Also a very seasoned and veteran team vs our youth.

Hold on kids this will not be an easy win and has me a bit worried.

their line is okay. probably talent level of drake but less experienced.
Their D line is decent but not as good as either WIU or UNI.
They have WR speed...lucky that's also what our defense's best attribute.
Their secondary is decent talent wise but communication has not looked great (same problem their coach had here)

Overall their run game is what I think keeps them in games. They don't look good when they can't run the ball. So far, our run D has been pretty good due to our superior linebacker play. They have not shown ability to maintain drives.

UNCO: They had 1 drive vs UNCO for 8 plays, 1 for 7(didn't score) and 1 for 6. all the rest were less than 5 plays. 3 of the 4 scoring drives started inside UNCO territory. They gave up 26 First Downs to UNCO. Gave up 50% 3rd downs and converted 38%. UNCO ran 90 plays on them. One RB had 4 carries and 2 fumbles lost. Their top DL has 7 tackles on the year. 4.5 of those are sacks tho. most their tackling is done by DBs. WR's don't catch the ball a lot but when they do they are long plays. most receptions on the team is 9.

SDSU: I know people will say: They played SDSU tough. No SDSU played themselves tough. Sac had 10 first downs. 33% 3rd down conversion. 230 yards of total offense. SDSU threw 2 Ints in the redzone and sacked 2 times to take them out of FG range on 3rd down. SDSU just played awful. Still racked up 430 total offense. Killed themselves with 8 penalties but held the ball for 36 minutes of the game.

When you go back and watch them play so far this year, they are just so inconsistent. They make a 40 yard run and then stuffed for 3 plays. They throw 5 of 6 on a drive for a TD. Next drive they go 3 and out with 2 sacks. When they get in the redzone they score...no doubt about it. However, when they have a field to go. 60+ yards... they have a hard time keeping things together that long. Yes I think they have a lot of pure talent on that team. I think they have all the issues past griz teams have had. Inconsistent offense. Poor Defensive communication. They have not turned the ball over much this year besides one poor RB. They don't throw interceptions because a lot of their passes are overthrown deep. Streak routes, posts and such will be the main routes to watch. Safety communication will need to improve. I imagine we see a fair amount of cover 2 playing Sac, trying to get help over the top. Sac does not throw down much to the RBs so we should see CBs trailing WRs and forcing good passes. They do have a few TEs they throw the ball too every now and then. LBs and safeties will take most of those duties you presume with the 4-2-5. I see us bringing a LOT of LB blitz to stop the run and to put pressure on the QB. Sac likes developed routes and if we can cause the QB to check out of those or throw early we might be able to get a TO or two. Once again the D needs to just contain this Offense as they don't put together long through drives.

On offense we need to just get in rythem. timing routes will be essential. I liked when we used motion the last game we had more luck running up the middle. drawing ends and LBs eyes to the WR in motion caused some room for our struggling line to get a push. When the LBs and ends didn't cheat out Sneed and JLM had some room on the corners to take the ball and get the edge. look for more of this I would imagine. We also saw some new routes from the WRs last game. We ran 2 zig routes that were wide open but sneed over shot them. Both had the edge if the throw was on time. Sneed also missed a few longer passes where we need to give our WRs a shot to make the play. I think we will find ourselves moving the ball vs Sac and I am hoping some running game will continue to develop this weekend.

At the end of the day I think we will see a similar situation to last week. Sac might hit a few big plays but majority of the game our defense should lock them down pretty well. I think we find ourselves up 10-17 in the 4th quarter and we will see if we can make the right decisions and finish this one out, unlike last week. I see the griz coming home strong in this one winning by 10+ atleast. After watching Sac film... I would say 31-17 Griz.

I just gotta give KB another shoutout here. He literally almost called the entire game. Great pre-game analysis that turned out to be spot on.

Lol not all of it but it went similar to what I expected. Sac has big play talent and they are a good team. They are not a consistent team on either side of the ball. As soon as our D learned and cut down on the huge home run plays...sac could t move the ball much. One or two first downs and out. They ran well obviously in the first half and that let them make explosive plays deep too. When that stopped...so did the passes 20+yards. We ate alive their over aggressive DEs and we ate alive their over aggressive CBs. Double moves worked well and our oline was able to push the DEs out to the side to create cut back lanes. It was a good game plan by our coaches and we played well and made great adjustments. I’ll rewatch the the game and watch Cal poly some early this week. Always tough to know what CP team you will get though this week.
 
The Griz knew Sac State was a talented team before last Saturday, and so did knowledgeable fans. The uneducated fans (in the prediction thread) received an education on 9/22.

Post game respect:

'Sac State is the best team we've played this year. I don't think it's close," UM coach Bobby Hauck said. "They're well-coached. They're veteran. They're talented. Great job by them.". -- Bobby Hauck

"That was one of the (most fun) games I've ever played in, just the environment and two teams going at it for four quarters straight, It was back and forth the whole game. Give credit to them. They're a good team. It was fun.". -- Josh Buss
 
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