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Postby bluemarlin2 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:59 pm

Can the judge in this trial dictate the use of a supermajority or is that just in civil trials?

Also, if there is just one Gwen on the jury which results in a hung jury it appears that there is no time limit on how long the prosecution has to re-charge. It could be years that they leave this hanging. Wouldn't this end any chance of JJ ever playing for UM again?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby ilovethecats » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:58 pm

while i didn't want to partake in the williams-thug thread because frankly it's embarrasing...i do have a question in regards to the jj trial...

it's my understanding that jury duty selection starts tomorrow? how in the hell can you find a jury in a small community like missoula and expect there to be no bias? seems this will a pretty high profile case considering the accused and the community. what steps are in place to make sure this guy and his accuser get a fair trial?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby tnt » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:03 pm

Believe it or not there are a fair number of folks who could care less about the University football program.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby GrizPony » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:04 pm

Said one of those people..... :thumb:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby AllWeatherFan » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:05 pm

As unbelievable as it may seem, there are more than 12 people in this town who don't care about UM football. Some of them sit in my section apparently.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby mcg » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:07 pm

ilovethecats wrote:while i didn't want to partake in the williams-thug thread because frankly it's embarrasing...i do have a question in regards to the jj trial...

it's my understanding that jury duty selection starts tomorrow? how in the hell can you find a jury in a small community like missoula and expect there to be no bias? seems this will a pretty high profile case considering the accused and the community. what steps are in place to make sure this guy and his accuser get a fair trial?


In my experience as juror the judge simply asked prospective jurors if they have heard or read about the case and whether they have heard or seen anything that would not allow them to render an impartial decision. As long as you could say that you could be impartial, you were ok for the jury.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby ilovethecats » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:18 pm

mcg wrote:
ilovethecats wrote:while i didn't want to partake in the williams-thug thread because frankly it's embarrasing...i do have a question in regards to the jj trial...

it's my understanding that jury duty selection starts tomorrow? how in the hell can you find a jury in a small community like missoula and expect there to be no bias? seems this will a pretty high profile case considering the accused and the community. what steps are in place to make sure this guy and his accuser get a fair trial?


In my experience as juror the judge simply asked prospective jurors if they have heard or read about the case and whether they have heard or seen anything that would not allow them to render an impartial decision. As long as you could say that you could be impartial, you were ok for the jury.


thanks. that's more of what i was looking for. i am very aware that some people in missoula don't care about football. i wasn't implying that. i just thought that when selecting a jury if anyone had heard of the acused, the accuser, or the allegations then they couldn't be on the jury. just thought that if this was indeed true of what is asked of jurors...if that was even possible in a small community like missoula.

in other words, you don't have to be a fan of the griz. but you have to live under a rock if you haven't heard anything about jordan johnson or the accusations.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby grizpack » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:50 pm

I doubt there are many in town who haven't heard of it. Even people who don't follow the Griz athletics have heard of it, and talk about it. The town is also full of activists on both sides. Those that side with the victim, and those that side with the athlete. Not all of those tell the truth when asked, which could make it very tough to pick an impartial jury.

I read this morning that over 200 of the 400 potential jurors had already been dismissed, so there must have been some sort of questionnaire filled out that is causing that. Hard to believe the judge would let that many out for work and other issues.

I was on a jury panel quite a while ago for a murder case. Something like 250 jurors. I was way down at the bottom of the list, and did not get selected, but the judge wouldn't let anyone out for work, etc. Just told the jurors to bring in their employers and have them explain to the judge why the employee couldn't get out of work. Interestingly, no employers showed up... :)
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby BWahlberg » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:52 pm

There was a questionnaire sent out, as I understand.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby tnt » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:54 pm

BWahlberg wrote:There was a questionnaire sent out, as I understand.


From what I understand over 200 have been eliminated by the questionnaire....
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby BWahlberg » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:59 pm

tnt wrote:
BWahlberg wrote:There was a questionnaire sent out, as I understand.


From what I understand over 200 have been eliminated by the questionnaire....


Yep, that's what someone who was "eliminated" told me.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby ilovethecats » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:12 pm

ya kind of what i was getting at. seems that finding a jury could be quite the task with such a high profile case and a pretty small community. anyone know how long this process usually takes?
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Grizo406 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:10 pm

BWahlberg wrote:There was a questionnaire sent out, as I understand.


Any chance you got a copy of said questionnaire? :lol:

If so, please post it!??!
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:15 pm

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Grizo.....you gotta be this tall to read the questionnaire.............so your screwed


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Re: JJ Trial

Postby NorthEndZoneDan » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:27 pm

Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Bear Axed » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:02 pm

NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby EverettGriz » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:32 pm

Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby NorthEndZoneDan » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:37 pm

EverettGriz wrote:
Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:

He has been my secret bff ever since he dropped the gem about getting called :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby EverettGriz » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:40 pm

NorthEndZoneDan wrote:
EverettGriz wrote:
Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:

He has been my secret bff ever since he dropped the gem about getting called :lol: :lol: :lol:



Clearly, we can now definitively say that one of the inquiries on the questionnaire is NOT: "How many times have you been banned from bcn?". :lol: :lol:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby NorthEndZoneDan » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:48 pm

EverettGriz wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:
EverettGriz wrote:
Bear Axed wrote:can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:

He has been my secret bff ever since he dropped the gem about getting called :lol: :lol: :lol:



Clearly, we can now definitively say that one of the inquiries on the questionnaire is NOT: "How many times have you been banned from bcn?". :lol: :lol:

Or "Who is this Chris and why is egriz?" :lol:
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Allezchat » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:07 am

Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:


I would venture that the people picking the jury have been on here and know this. Just a hunch. Could be wrong.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby jagur1 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:09 am

EverettGriz wrote:
Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:



619? more like 19 people post on BCN if you pay attention. 3 griz fans, alpha, 5 MSU-B alumni that are die hard cats, 1 Rocky student, 4 guys that lasted 1 quarter as engineering students, 4 nurses and one guy that bakes donuts for a living.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby BDizzle » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:13 am

jagur1 wrote:
EverettGriz wrote:
Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:



619? more like 19 people post on BCN if you pay attention. 3 griz fans, alpha, 5 MSU-B alumni that are die hard cats, 1 Rocky student, 4 guys that lasted 1 quarter as engineering students, 4 nurses and one guy that bakes donuts for a living.


Geeze I fit a lot of those criteria. I'm a Griz fan, that is a MSU-B alumni, that lasted a few quarters as an engineering student, that likes to eat baked donuts.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Jerry Punch » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:30 am

EverettGriz wrote:
Bear Axed wrote:
NorthEndZoneDan wrote:Bear Axed... you got an invite! Tell us what you saw. C'mon man :thumb:

can't yet, I'm still in :thumb:



Oh my god. If you were to get selected, somewhere on bcn there would be about 619 heads which would simultaneously explode! :lol:


:cry: . Dude, no. Again, you'll have to show me where these people who want Jordy convicted are. Not people who don't want him to play against them again, because that's quite a different thing. I would love never to see Jordy play against the Cats, but not because he is in prison. It's a testament to how good he is and how he obliterated us in 2011. It's called respect, and I think an Cat fan I know has it for him on the football field.

But this is what the trial is for, isn't it? To let those arguments about Jordy's good nature stand scrutiny against his lesser qualities. The jury will decide, and if BearAssed is paying attention as much to that trial as he is to what happens in Bozeman, then I'm sure Jordy will get a fair result.
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Re: JJ Trial

Postby Grizbeer » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:47 am

AllWeatherFan wrote:As unbelievable as it may seem, there are more than 12 people in this town who don't care about UM football. Some of them sit in my section apparently.

:lol: :lol: :clap:
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