AZGrizFan said:Pflugrad is.......vastly underemployed....
Sam A. Blitz said:Didn't he have a short stint at Weber?
The_Real_Chief said:I was never a huge Robin fan, good guy but if I had to go back to when Bobby left, I would have hired Klieman off of Craig Bohl's staff and continued to play NFL style play action/run game with a stout defense. Robin moved us towards the "Oregon" style bubble screens, playing out of the gun, etc you know the drill. Now we have Stitt who is pretty much Mike Leach or Sonny Dykes style. Haven't had the success Bobby had and for that matter not even close to the success NDSU has had playing this way. I know i'll get destroyed by this board for saying this but its my opinion thats how you have sustained success, we've seen this with NDSU. We used to have this when Bobby was here, yes yes i know he never won the big game BUT at least we were in the hunt year in and year out. We played with grit, we had unbelievable swagger, our guys mentally had opponents beat before stepping on the field. We'll see what transpires I sure hope i'm wrong and Stitt gets us back in the title hunt.
Remind me again what kind of offense we ran in 1995?The_Real_Chief said:I was never a huge Robin fan, good guy but if I had to go back to when Bobby left, I would have hired Klieman off of Craig Bohl's staff and continued to play NFL style play action/run game with a stout defense. Robin moved us towards the "Oregon" style bubble screens, playing out of the gun, etc you know the drill. Now we have Stitt who is pretty much Mike Leach or Sonny Dykes style. Haven't had the success Bobby had and for that matter not even close to the success NDSU has had playing this way. I know i'll get destroyed by this board for saying this but its my opinion thats how you have sustained success, we've seen this with NDSU. We used to have this when Bobby was here, yes yes i know he never won the big game BUT at least we were in the hunt year in and year out. We played with grit, we had unbelievable swagger, our guys mentally had opponents beat before stepping on the field. We'll see what transpires I sure hope i'm wrong and Stitt gets us back in the title hunt.
Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]BillingsMafia said:The_Real_Chief said:I was never a huge Robin fan, good guy but if I had to go back to when Bobby left, I would have hired Klieman off of Craig Bohl's staff and continued to play NFL style play action/run game with a stout defense. Robin moved us towards the "Oregon" style bubble screens, playing out of the gun, etc you know the drill. Now we have Stitt who is pretty much Mike Leach or Sonny Dykes style. Haven't had the success Bobby had and for that matter not even close to the success NDSU has had playing this way. I know i'll get destroyed by this board for saying this but its my opinion thats how you have sustained success, we've seen this with NDSU. We used to have this when Bobby was here, yes yes i know he never won the big game BUT at least we were in the hunt year in and year out. We played with grit, we had unbelievable swagger, our guys mentally had opponents beat before stepping on the field. We'll see what transpires I sure hope i'm wrong and Stitt gets us back in the title hunt.
I'm curious about what kind of offense did Don Read and Dave Dickenson run?
casewinter13 said:Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]BillingsMafia said:The_Real_Chief said:I was never a huge Robin fan, good guy but if I had to go back to when Bobby left, I would have hired Klieman off of Craig Bohl's staff and continued to play NFL style play action/run game with a stout defense. Robin moved us towards the "Oregon" style bubble screens, playing out of the gun, etc you know the drill. Now we have Stitt who is pretty much Mike Leach or Sonny Dykes style. Haven't had the success Bobby had and for that matter not even close to the success NDSU has had playing this way. I know i'll get destroyed by this board for saying this but its my opinion thats how you have sustained success, we've seen this with NDSU. We used to have this when Bobby was here, yes yes i know he never won the big game BUT at least we were in the hunt year in and year out. We played with grit, we had unbelievable swagger, our guys mentally had opponents beat before stepping on the field. We'll see what transpires I sure hope i'm wrong and Stitt gets us back in the title hunt.
I'm curious about what kind of offense did Don Read and Dave Dickenson run?
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What about em? Did I say we can't win with those offenses? I was responding to your comment that we can't win championships with our offense. Simply not trueThe_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]BillingsMafia said:The_Real_Chief said:I was never a huge Robin fan, good guy but if I had to go back to when Bobby left, I would have hired Klieman off of Craig Bohl's staff and continued to play NFL style play action/run game with a stout defense. Robin moved us towards the "Oregon" style bubble screens, playing out of the gun, etc you know the drill. Now we have Stitt who is pretty much Mike Leach or Sonny Dykes style. Haven't had the success Bobby had and for that matter not even close to the success NDSU has had playing this way. I know i'll get destroyed by this board for saying this but its my opinion thats how you have sustained success, we've seen this with NDSU. We used to have this when Bobby was here, yes yes i know he never won the big game BUT at least we were in the hunt year in and year out. We played with grit, we had unbelievable swagger, our guys mentally had opponents beat before stepping on the field. We'll see what transpires I sure hope i'm wrong and Stitt gets us back in the title hunt.
I'm curious about what kind of offense did Don Read and Dave Dickenson run?
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What about Craig Bohl/Klieman and Nick Saban?
casewinter13 said:What about em? Did I say we can't win with those offenses? I was responding to your comment that we can't win championships with our offense. Simply not trueThe_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]BillingsMafia said:I'm curious about what kind of offense did Don Read and Dave Dickenson run?
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What about Craig Bohl/Klieman and Nick Saban?
By the way, Saban went out and hired Kiffin as his O coordinator to implement some spread principles. Alabama's offense is ever evolving
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The_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:What about em? Did I say we can't win with those offenses? I was responding to your comment that we can't win championships with our offense. Simply not trueThe_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]
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What about Craig Bohl/Klieman and Nick Saban?
By the way, Saban went out and hired Kiffin as his O coordinator to implement some spread principles. Alabama's offense is ever evolving
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Of course, everyone has elements of the spread now a days, but i think the proven formula is 1.)QB 2.) Pass Rush 3.) O line. We will see what happens, only time will tell. Don't get your undies in a bunch, we can agree to disagree.
Of course we can agree to disagree, don't get dramatic, I stated my disagreement and left it at that.The_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:What about em? Did I say we can't win with those offenses? I was responding to your comment that we can't win championships with our offense. Simply not trueThe_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]
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What about Craig Bohl/Klieman and Nick Saban?
By the way, Saban went out and hired Kiffin as his O coordinator to implement some spread principles. Alabama's offense is ever evolving
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Of course, everyone has elements of the spread now a days, but i think the proven formula is 1.)QB 2.) Pass Rush 3.) O line. We will see what happens, only time will tell. Don't get your undies in a bunch, we can agree to disagree.
No way Montana can recruit the athletes that Alabama has. The only way Montana wins a championship is with a few great skill players, a smart innovative coach like Read or maybe Stitts. Watch the Cats with power football Choate, they will not make a deep playoff run even after several years. Gotta feel sorry for those Cat fans, there is no hope and the smart ones know it.The_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:What about em? Did I say we can't win with those offenses? I was responding to your comment that we can't win championships with our offense. Simply not trueThe_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:Haha kudos, beat me to it [emoji106]
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What about Craig Bohl/Klieman and Nick Saban?
By the way, Saban went out and hired Kiffin as his O coordinator to implement some spread principles. Alabama's offense is ever evolving
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Of course, everyone has elements of the spread now a days, but i think the proven formula is 1.)QB 2.) Pass Rush 3.) O line. We will see what happens, only time will tell. Don't get your undies in a bunch, we can agree to disagree.
Robin was the offensive coordinator at Weber State in 2013.Sam A. Blitz wrote
Didn't he have a short stint at Weber?
BillingsMafia said:No way Montana can recruit the athletes that Alabama has. The only way Montana wins a championship is with a few great skill players, a smart innovative coach like Read or maybe Stitts. Watch the Cats with power football Choate, they will not make a deep playoff run even after several years. Gotta feel sorry for those Cat fans, there is no hope and the smart ones know it.The_Real_Chief said:casewinter13 said:What about em? Did I say we can't win with those offenses? I was responding to your comment that we can't win championships with our offense. Simply not trueThe_Real_Chief said:What about Craig Bohl/Klieman and Nick Saban?
By the way, Saban went out and hired Kiffin as his O coordinator to implement some spread principles. Alabama's offense is ever evolving
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Of course, everyone has elements of the spread now a days, but i think the proven formula is 1.)QB 2.) Pass Rush 3.) O line. We will see what happens, only time will tell. Don't get your undies in a bunch, we can agree to disagree.
SouthDakotaGrizzly said:ordigger said:Interesting line....
A significant amount of support for Pflugrad followed the dismissal. University President Royce C. Engstrom, who let him go, wrote a recommendation letter that Pflugard could use for job interviews. It said the firing “was not the result of any specific impropriety or improper conduct by him. Because of a difficult situation and some unfortunate circumstances at the University, I made the decision that the program needed to go in an alternate direction.”
Well, I have "made the decision that the university needs to go in an alternate direction" from Engstrom. Who do I send my letter to in order to get this done?
What conditions would those be? Winning?GrizRanger said:SouthDakotaGrizzly said:ordigger said:Interesting line....
A significant amount of support for Pflugrad followed the dismissal. University President Royce C. Engstrom, who let him go, wrote a recommendation letter that Pflugard could use for job interviews. It said the firing “was not the result of any specific impropriety or improper conduct by him. Because of a difficult situation and some unfortunate circumstances at the University, I made the decision that the program needed to go in an alternate direction.”
Well, I have "made the decision that the university needs to go in an alternate direction" from Engstrom. Who do I send my letter to in order to get this done?
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P.S. Am very glad that Hauck is gone. Hauck created the conditions that Pflugrad got blamed for.