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Spring Ball is Here!
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horribilisfan8184
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I like the anticipation and excitement of not knowing how this years team will react and perform. If we get good, consistent quarterback play the Griz should be good on both sides of the ball.
Really?uofmman1122 said:
overall: Stitt 14-10; Delaney 24-14 advantage Delaney
vs BS teams: Stitt 9-8; Delaney 16-9 advantage Delaney
vs. MSU: Stitt 1-1; Delaney 2-1 advantage Delaney
playoffs: Stitt 1-1; Delaney 1-2 advantage Stitt
Never let the facts get in your way.
kemajic said:
Football was flat out not very good during the Delaney years. He tried to make JJ into an under the center pro style qb and it wasn't until he let him operate out of the gun that we ended up having the one good season while losing at home to CCU in the cold bowl. I like Mick; he is a very good guy and he came along at the right time for what should have been only one season, but his time was also the source of our very poor o-line recruiting which has significantly impacted the last few years of team production. Nobody can argue that the roster isn't loaded with a great deal of talent now. I like the program building that is going on by emphasizing team building, individual accountability, instilling leadership in young players, and bringing in quality academic athletes that really feel they are going to be part of something special. Stitt is trying to change the culture and so far he has mixed results. The coaching needs to show marked improvement this season or else some new coach is going to inherit a great deal of talent next year.
BadlandsGrizFan
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uofmman1122 said:
That will always be the case with the committees glorious regionalization plan.....NDSU, SDSU, Montana EWU...we will always play eachother in those first 2 rounds.
kemajic said:
To be fair here, you gotta compare both by two seasons as Stitt has only had two seasons.
Overall: Stitt 14-10; Delaney 15-9 - Advantage Delaney by +1
vs BS Teams: Stitt 9-8; Delaney 10-7 - Advantage Delaney by +1
vs MSU: Stitt 1-1; Delaney 1-1 - Draw
Playoffs: Stitt 1-1; Delaney 1-1 - Draw
Pretty even, but Stitt has faired better against .500 or greater teams, going 7-7 vs Delaney's 4-7, granted Stitt has had three more games against .500 or greater teams.
go96griz said:
Imagine how much better Delaney's record might have been if he hadn't driven the caddy in the ditch as you note. JJ was perfect for Pflu's O, but it wasn't something coach D was comfortable with. That supposes that he could have found a suitable substitute for JJ's gap year.
Copper Griz
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Spanky said:
Completely disagree. Pflu absolutely had the program headed in the right direction. The Caddy was about to roll over the BSC and potentially there would have been a NC appearance. Bummer that the JJ situation happened and Rolls rolled his Pinto management style into town. Everyone is always worshiping BH. He was a great coach, but he left on his own voltition. He left - he was not fired or shown the door. Everyone is enamored with a coach who left the program voluntarily for greener pastures. I wish him nothing but the best of of luck, but he shot himself in the foot if he thought he was going to get the job back. (Never confirmed that he wanted it back, but sure a lot of noise around that topic). Stitt is here. Has the recruits in house that could take the program back to where it once was. I hope he does.
Copper Griz
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kemajic said:
I don't disagree. I just happen to think it was a lot more than the coaching that was problematic. I have said before the O Line was not good. Couple that with major problems at the QB position and Houston We Have A Problem. Could Stitt and Co. have done a better job? Yep, but this year will be very telling on how the players and coaching improve (God forbid they get worse - really not sure it can be much worse). Stitt had some very good skill players his first year. Last year he had some young kids learning as they went. Let's hope they improve and mature. The defense is still an unknown for me. Both from a coaching and personnel stand point. I hope they pleasantly surprise.
This. Jesus. :lol:get'em_griz said:
Thanks, get'em.
Against teams above .500, it isn't even close.
Which is what I originally said.
Even if you include all of Delaney's games from 2014, he's still just 5-11 against teams better than .500. Stitt's teams have played nearly the same number of above-.500 teams in two years that Delaney's did in three, with a better record.
To be fair, Stitt has lost 3 games to sub-.500 teams, while Delaney lost only 2, and that's not okay, but that's not what we were talking about.
This shit right here is why eGriz is just awful these days.
Copper Griz said:
Also unknowns going into this season: Improved O-Line? QB?
Like Kem said, "more hope than confidence."
go96griz said:
What a bunch of flat out jibberish. If it wasn't good under Delaney, then it really sucks under Stitt. Delaney did a ton to change the culture in terms of team building, accountability, leadership here and if Stitt is changing it from what Delaney instilled, then we all need to brace ourselves. Under Delaney, the culture was better than it had been in at least 15 years. Maybe ever. He's as upstanding of a coach as we've ever had. No need to change the culture.
Copper Griz said:
He beat feet, hoping the first ride he could find out of Missoula. Didn't matter who stopped and opened the door - he was gone. Had he gone out with an NC, you might feel better about being abandoned, but it was clear he felt he'd outgrown the FCS. Patience wasn't on his list of virtues. He got and is getting what he earned.
Even if you throw out 2012, Stitt (7-7) still has a better record against above-.500 teams (Delaney went 4-8, including 1-3 in 2013, our "best" team by record since 2011).getgrizzy said:
Soooooooooooooo...
dayday said:
They don't
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