MikeyGriz
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Hold on there, Babalouie! I'll do the thinnin' around here!You thin right!
Hold on there, Babalouie! I'll do the thinnin' around here!You thin right!
Vidlak is just another failure by Hauck to identify a FCS caliber high school QB to offer. Bobby's answer is to flood the QB room with a bunch of transfers, throw them against the wall, and pray that one of them emerges as an FCS talent. Bobby's got that quantity thing down, I'll give him that. Quality? Not so much.You thin right!
Ah Yat looks solid for his age, and you often brag that you said he was doing great as a true freshman in the fall camp, so obviously you don't feel he is a failure to identify and successfully recruit an FCS QB?Vidlak is just another failure by Hauck to identify a FCS caliber high school QB to offer. Bobby's answer is to flood the QB room with a bunch of transfers, throw them against the wall, and pray that one of them emerges as an FCS talent. Bobby's got that quantity thing down, I'll give him that. Quality? Not so much.
One year, our QBs were getting chopped down like wheat at harvest time. Up jumps the unlikely QB Kyle Samson, v Idaho, Sept. 27, 2003. Looked like a Little Grizzly behind center. Spuds didn't know whether to sh*t or go blind. Bobby 1.0. Maybe THAT's why his six shooter is loaded with QBs.Vidlak is just another failure by Hauck to identify a FCS caliber high school QB to offer. Bobby's answer is to flood the QB room with a bunch of transfers, throw them against the wall, and pray that one of them emerges as an FCS talent. Bobby's got that quantity thing down, I'll give him that. Quality? Not so much.
..I was a big Bobby Hauck fan early on...lost faith in him early last season...he proved to me that heAh Yat looks solid for his age, and you often brag that you said he was doing great as a true freshman in the fall camp, so obviously you don't feel he is a failure to identify and successfully recruit an FCS QB?
Flowers has a great pedigree. I'd bet good money he is an "FCS caliber QB."
Huot was the top ranked football player in Montana as a senior, and had interest from at least one FBS school if I remember right. He was looking like he is developing well in the spring game, was a 3 star athlete and three time all state. Huot was absolutely considered as solid FCS level QB prospect, obviously he still has to do it.
Vidlak wasn't a failure to identify "an FCS caliber QB," because FBS teams went out and stole him from us in the first place. So that doesn't make logical sense unless you think that it takes a higher caliber of QB to play in the FCS than the FBS.
I'm not trying to just hate on you, but that take is flat wrong. What a lot of people are missing is that a chunk of the Missoula community was calling for Bobby Hauck's head the day he was re-hired. There was no "lets develop a QB along slowly," it was constantly we need to get better and win right now or there will be for sale signs in your yard and we will talk shit about your family on the internet. Add that to his historical distrust of Freshman QB's, and there has been a clear incentive to take transfers who have good stuff already on tape that you can just plug in. I'm sure you can identify, as you were a loud voice all along about it. Which is your right. But you can't now also say "well, when we needed to win right now he also should have been playing and developing a young QB!"
The strategy worked. Every year has been a step forward and we were in the natty last year.
I mostly agree. I feel for Delaney. He was given a bad hand, and I hear he is the nicest guy and a wonderful man. He played it as best he could and while the results weren't there on the field, he was probably the right person to steady the ship with all the ridiculous drama, but yea, it took an AWFULLY long time but I feel like we are back to where we need to be.Well said, Elrod, and historically accurate. Six years of Delaney and Stitt all but destroyed Griz FB. Took six years to get to Frisco, but he did the job.
I had actually forgotten that. And I think you are right. I have to imagine there is a lot of the same logic in the way we just keep stacking up running backs. It wasn't that long ago that we ran out, and had to run poor Junior Bergen out there as a lil freshman to take the RB beating.One year, our QBs were getting chopped down like wheat at harvest time. Up jumps the unlikely QB Kyle Samson, v Idaho, Sept. 27, 2003. Looked like a Little Grizzly behind center. Spuds didn't know whether to sh*t or go blind. Bobby 1.0. Maybe THAT's why his six shooter is loaded with QBs.
It is almost like 60% of your posts are taking shots at Hauck and the other 40% are shots at posters that point out your hatred of Hauck. I will hang up and listen.Vidlak is just another failure by Hauck to identify a FCS caliber high school QB to offer. Bobby's answer is to flood the QB room with a bunch of transfers, throw them against the wall, and pray that one of them emerges as an FCS talent. Bobby's got that quantity thing down, I'll give him that. Quality? Not so much.
I wish someone thought of me as often as he thinks of Bobby Hauck.It is almost like 60% of your posts are taking shots at Hauck and the other 40% are shots at posters that point out your hatred of Hauck. I will hang up and listen.
All you provide as examples is "potential". Yes, I think Ah Yat has lots of potential. But how many snaps has he taken? How many TDs has he thrown? The other two QBs have never taken a snap for us.Ah Yat looks solid for his age, and you often brag that you said he was doing great as a true freshman in the fall camp, so obviously you don't feel he is a failure to identify and successfully recruit an FCS QB?
Flowers has a great pedigree. I'd bet good money he is an "FCS caliber QB."
Huot was the top ranked football player in Montana as a senior, and had interest from at least one FBS school if I remember right. He was looking like he is developing well in the spring game, was a 3 star athlete and three time all state. Huot was absolutely considered as solid FCS level QB prospect, obviously he still has to do it.
Vidlak wasn't a failure to identify "an FCS caliber QB," because FBS teams went out and stole him from us in the first place. So that doesn't make logical sense unless you think that it takes a higher caliber of QB to play in the FCS than the FBS.
I'm not trying to just hate on you, but that take is flat wrong. What a lot of people are missing is that a chunk of the Missoula community was calling for Bobby Hauck's head the day he was re-hired. There was no "lets develop a QB along slowly," it was constantly we need to get better and win right now or there will be for sale signs in your yard and we will talk shit about your family on the internet. Add that to his historical distrust of Freshman QB's, and there has been a clear incentive to take transfers who have good stuff already on tape that you can just plug in. I'm sure you can identify, as you were a loud voice all along about it. Which is your right. But you can't now also say "well, when we needed to win right now he also should have been playing and developing a young QB!"
The strategy worked. Every year has been a step forward and we were in the natty last year.
As I said, just place me on ignore. It's really that easy. Then you can get some sleep at night instead of wracking your brain to come-up with another pithy slam. Capish?It is almost like 60% of your posts are taking shots at Hauck and the other 40% are shots at posters that point out your hatred of Hauck. I will hang up and listen.
2002? Why stop there? Might as well go back to the Wild Bill Kelly days.One year, our QBs were getting chopped down like wheat at harvest time. Up jumps the unlikely QB Kyle Samson, v Idaho, Sept. 27, 2003. Looked like a Little Grizzly behind center. Spuds didn't know whether to sh*t or go blind. Bobby 1.0. Maybe THAT's why his six shooter is loaded with QBs.
I can not defend you on many of your posts but you do make some legitimate points of which I am still waiting for HelenaHandbasket to make some.As I said, just place me on ignore. It's really that easy. Then you can get some sleep at night instead of wracking your brain to come-up with another pithy slam. Capish?
What are some examples of those "legitimate" posts? HHH makes a lot of good posts, in my view.I can not defend you on many of your posts but you do make some legitimate points of which I am still waiting for HelenaHandbasket to make some.
2003. NEZ completed, got my season tx. The Idaho game was one of the first for me. I swear, if the center had passed gas, Samson would have been blown back next to the RB(s). Looked like he needed a periscope to see the defense. Comical, in retrospect.2002? Why stop there? Might as well go back to the Wild Bill Kelly days.
I was in attendance at that game. It was an example of an Idaho team totally unprepared to defense the option game.2003. NEZ completed, got my season tx. The Idaho game was one of the first for me. I swear, if the center had passed gas, Samson would have been blown back next to the RB(s). Looked like he needed a periscope to see the defense. Comical, in retrospect.
Listen, I took the shot at just giving a logical and not attacking you response because my pal 3-7-77 has told me a number of times that you can be reasonable and chat about football. If you want to start name calling, that's cool, we can just put each other on ignore and move along. I hadn't done that since the site migrated.All you provide as examples is "potential". Yes, I think Ah Yat has lots of potential. But how many snaps has he taken? How many TDs has he thrown? The other two QBs have never taken a snap for us.
Once again, I make a 100% truthful statement that our QB situation this year is very uncertain, and the typical hacks attack that 100% true statement, but provide NOTHING in support their argument except POTENTIAL. Many of these same posters were gushing about how great Vidlak was going to be. We went into last season with the same QB questions we have this season. McDowell turned out to be a better-than-expected answer, while our pre-season hero, Vidlak, was a bust. But we all know that Vidlak was the chosen one by the coaching staff going into the season. The coaches never thought McDowell would be the starter.
Regarding Ah Yat, I was the only poster who stated on egriz that Ah Yat looked better in fall practice than either McDowell or Vidlak. Look it up. So, I think that there is a very good chance that Ah Yat might be a very good QB in the future. Will it be in 2024, with very little history and experience behind him? Who knows? But I assure you that all of you posters who believe that we have no reasons for concern about the QB position are smoking something!