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MSU looking into COA
- Thread starter Griz til I die
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Jaredkuehn said:
https://newstalkkgvo.com/um-athletic-scholarships-to-soon-include-cost-of-attendance/
“A few years back, the NCAA lifted the scholarship limits that universities can provide to their student athletes,” said Haslam. “Used to be that only tuition room and board, books and fees were offered, but there’s also another portion of financial aid which is called ‘cost of attendance’ which is essentially what it costs you to go to school in Missoula. Things like getting home, buying yourself dinner and things like that. As athletic departments we are now allowed to offer up to cost of attendance on our scholarships. It allows us to give a little bit more scholarship funds into the pockets of our student athletes.”
“Our cost of attendance is a little below $4,000, and a little bit more for someone who is from out of state,” he said. “Those are all listed on the University of Montana’s financial aid page on the website. Every university has to publish what their cost of attendance is. It does vary on the size of the university and where it’s located.”
The investment in student athletes has expanded as NCAA rules have allowed over the years.
“As these NCAA rules have loosened up over the years, we’re certainly done all that we can to invest in our student athletes,” he said. “When it was allowed to feed them more than just three meals a day we started investing heavily in nutrition. In summer school recently we now have access to student athletes that can train in summer school, so we’ve invested heavily in summer school tuition, so the cost of attendance will be a really nice next step.”
Haslam said the UM athletic department is reaching out to generous supporters to help with the funds needed to cover the cost of attendance.
“Some pretty quick math with 170-plus scholarships that we’re offering and times that by $3800 then that’s quite a bit of money,” he said. “We need to phase these things in and rely on good donors and those who support us to be able to provide this for our student athletes. We’d be providing these with donor funds and non-state funds that we would generate on our own. We want to make sure that we’re doing all we can to recruit and retain the student athletes that we can get on campus.”
Haslam said the cost of attendance will be tied to the amount of scholarship funds a student athlete receives.
“Cost of attendance is tied to a percentage of your scholarship, so you can’t get more than what your scholarship allows, whether it’s full or partial,” he said. “It does make a difference when you’re trying to make those decisions, weighing all the options from the fan base, to the major I want to pursue, or the coaching staff. When you’re in the living room of a young woman’s family and you’re recruiting for volleyball and you say ‘we’ll be paying for your tuition, your room and board, your books and your fees, and we’ll be able to give you a little bit of extra money too, so that you can get home at Christmas, buy yourself a new pair of shoes’. That’s because you won’t be able to have a job because you’re working full time as a student athlete.”
Haslam said the plan is to begin offering a limited amount of the cost of attendance in the next academic year. They will not be able to offer the full amount, he said.
Then she can leave if she’s unhappy. This seems like kind of a stupid thing to bitch about but whatever floats her boat.wbtfg said:
Griz til I die said:
LOL, she is fighting for her school and what seem to be unequal funding practices. But keep acting 12 if that floats your boat.
Does it really matter where the money and students come from? It’s not like MSU has a budget crisis. This all just seems a little overblown to me.wbtfg said:
wbtfg said:
What you fail to acknowledge is that the MT Regents don't allocate funds to schools based on a per student, or per MT student, basis. Per student is not a relevant measurement. Neither is campus sq footage, nor out of state students, nor quality of athletics.
Would you have been okay of athletic funding was based on number of men's football and basketball wins? Or how about attendance? Or how about size of stadium?
wbtfg said:
Yes. Did you? I have also talked to several Regents. Have you?
The Regents don't allocate funds based on the number of students, and haven't for a number of years, at least 4. Per capita was a prior policy, which actually only existed for a limited number of years.
"the Board of Regents and OCHE have been shifting away from the policy of valuing in-state enrollment for years."
Do you have a problem with this expenditure? I sure don't. It was wise, and necessary, in my view.
"UM went through multiple rounds of academic program reviews and personnel-cutting attempts to varying degrees of success, receiving $2 million from the state government to fund early retirement and buyout offers meant to help bring its personnel budget in line with its shrinking tuition revenue."
MSU got "the vast majority of the state money allocated last legislative session for infrastructure projects and inflationary costs."
I assume there was a reason for that, but I could also see how UM, and other MT campuses, could find this to be wrong or unfair.
Do you think UM's buildings should not be maintained? Just let them go unprepared and deteriorate? I'm all for doing the basics of maintaining the physical plant of all MT campuses. Maintaining buildings have almost almost nothing to do with the number of students. It's obviously based on the number of buildings, their sizes and their years.
Is there any argument to be made that because MSU now has more out-of-state students than in-state students, that the legislature should provide less funding to MSU for infrastructure and less for general funding? Why should the state taxpayers subsidize a school that has mostly (a majority) of out of state students? Just asking. I don't know.
Washgrizfan1
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CDAGRIZ said:
And now after using its state funds for years for a bigger subsidy of its athletics (and not for students or academics), MSU wants to change the current allocation system to get more money for its campus/students, more than half of whom are not even from Montana.
wbtfg
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PlayerRep said:
Last I looked MSU had roughly 7500 Montana resident undergrads enrolled and UM had roughly 4500. Also, Many of MSU’s programs (nursing, engineering, architecture, etc) are extremely expensive programs to operate. I would argues it’s not a best practice to rely on out of state students to subsidize the Montana residents. In recent years, due to the MUS funding model, MSU has been forced to do just that, and now you’re using that as an argument to fund MSU even less.
