UCLA/USC

[ilovethecats]

No surprise I'm a not move up guy. One thing to think about is that a move up is most likely the end of a strong Montana presence on the Grizzly team. It's just numerical reality; one million Montana's (it should be going up but I feel like some of those Butte-Irish-Catholics have been sneaking the occasional condom into the marital bedroom) vs 47.8 Million for just California/Oregon/Washington means there won't be many spots left for the walk-on from Savage.

A big part of NDSU's success is that they stopped trying to have North Dakota kids on the team. They get their linemen from Minnesota/Wisconsin/ etc and most of their skill players from Florida etc. Carson Wentz is an exception but he's a souless ginger and like Beetlejuice should not be named. Trey Lance is from greater Minneapolis which has a pop of 3.5 million or roughly twice the number of Keno machines in Billings.

There is a reason that the Montana/North Dakota high school game got cancelled, cuz North Dakota football is garbage and so how could they sell a game to sponsors that might as well have been between the US Air Force and Saddam's Republican Guard.

I get your gist but Trey Lance was from a small southern town in Minnesota. Population like 13,000. Small school. Minnesota didn't think he was good enough. Now they look to be wrong about that.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Yeah, moving up just sounds too hard…..we definitely should never try to move forward as an athletic program. In fact I can’t wait for North Dakota state, South Dakota state, msu, and all the other competitive programs in this division. to move along so we can just win all the games and playoffs will be annual romps of Bimidji state for the title game!! Oooooweeeee I can fucking wait!

 

[SaskGriz]

Yeah, moving up just sounds too hard…..we definitely should never try to move forward as an athletic program. In fact I can’t wait for North Dakota state, South Dakota state, msu, and all the other competitive programs in this division. to move along so we can just win all the games and playoffs will be annual romps of Bimidji state for the title game!! Oooooweeeee I can f###[#] wait!

You spelled Bemidji wrong and stated Montana State were a competitive program, that's two strikes right there.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I don't think you are fully and properly analyzing the situation. Many of us would rather have the playoffs, and are fine with some lesser games if that's what it takes to stay in the playoffs. Also, we have some fear that too much losing, i.e. too many lost games for multiple years, would cause attendance to go down (and the golden goose to be killed). For each 1,000 of lost attendance, I'd estimate lost revenue (from tickets, food/beverage, and Griz ware) of $300 times 1,000. So, $300,000 lost by UM for each 1,000 in lost attendance, plus related losses to the local businesses. Ticket loss of 5,000, would be $1.5 million. 10,000 would be $3.0 million. If conference tv revenue was so incredibly high, which I doubt, then that tv revenue could offset lost game day revenue.

I love the home games. Besides the home playoff games, I also love the extra games UM gets at home. In FBS, UM wouldn't get those extra home games.

Maybe I'm not the only one not fully and properly analyzing the situation. First, it is speculation that we would lose attendance from losing a few more games when against stiffer competition. I instead would speculate that bringing more interesting opponents into Wash/Griz could easily increase fan interest and put more pressure on ticket availability. Second, I don't follow the fear that UM would have to have fewer home games. I would presume a 12 game schedule with 8 conf. games, 4 at home and 4 on the road, leaving 4 OOC games. It should not be that difficult to get 2 of those at home for our normal 6 home games in the regular season.

I did not attempt to pick at the desire for playoff games, which I don't challenge. I picked specifically at the fear of losing a few games to better opponents, which deserves challenge. That's like asking the homely one to the dance because you're afraid of getting turned down by the fox.

I don't know anyone who is afraid to move up because we might lose more games. Those I know are concerned that losing more game would/could affect attendance. Attendance certainly went down under Stitt. Yes, it's possible that there would be more fan interest if the competition level was higher. Attendance loss issues must/should be analyzed. It could turn out that UM would conclude that the combination of potential losses and attendance losses would not be significant. I personally would have less interest because there were be any playoffs. I would also have less interest if the Griz were getting clobbered too often.

Not having playoffs would have a large impact on home games. UM had dozens of home playoff games just under Hauck, I believe.

UM has had 7 home games in the past 2 full seasons. Since 1998, UM has had 10 home games in one season, 9 home games in six seasons, 5 home games in five seasons, and 7 home games in five seasons. That's a heck of a lot more than 6 home games per season, Stitt averaged 6.3 home games per season.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Yeah, moving up just sounds too hard…..we definitely should never try to move forward as an athletic program. In fact I can’t wait for North Dakota state, South Dakota state, msu, and all the other competitive programs in this division. to move along so we can just win all the games and playoffs will be annual romps of Bimidji state for the title game!! Oooooweeeee I can f###[#] wait!

You spelled Bemidji wrong and stated Montana State were a competitive program, that's two strikes right there.

:lol: Yeah. Gonna take a minute to get the bad taste out of my mouth on that MSU comment

 

[Cowboys84]

No surprise I'm a not move up guy. One thing to think about is that a move up is most likely the end of a strong Montana presence on the Grizzly team. It's just numerical reality; one million Montana's (it should be going up but I feel like some of those Butte-Irish-Catholics have been sneaking the occasional condom into the marital bedroom) vs 47.8 Million for just California/Oregon/Washington means there won't be many spots left for the walk-on from Savage.

A big part of NDSU's success is that they stopped trying to have North Dakota kids on the team. They get their linemen from Minnesota/Wisconsin/ etc and most of their skill players from Florida etc. Carson Wentz is an exception but he's a souless ginger and like Beetlejuice should not be named. Trey Lance is from greater Minneapolis which has a pop of 3.5 million or roughly twice the number of Keno machines in Billings.

There is a reason that the Montana/North Dakota high school game got cancelled, cuz North Dakota football is garbage and so how could they sell a game to sponsors that might as well have been between the US Air Force and Saddam's Republican Guard.

I know your obsession with north dakota is strong with this one, but if you are going to try and be a troll atleast be accurate.

Last year 3 out of the starting 5 offensive lineman were from north dakota...Cordell volson from Balfour nd, who was a 4th round pick of the Cincinnati bengals in this last year's NFL draft, along with Jake kubas from Dickinson nd, and Cody mauch from Hankinson nd, mauch is coming off a junior season where he was all conference and projected pick in the next NFL draft...

 

[SaskGriz]

No surprise I'm a not move up guy. One thing to think about is that a move up is most likely the end of a strong Montana presence on the Grizzly team. It's just numerical reality; one million Montana's (it should be going up but I feel like some of those Butte-Irish-Catholics have been sneaking the occasional condom into the marital bedroom) vs 47.8 Million for just California/Oregon/Washington means there won't be many spots left for the walk-on from Savage.

A big part of NDSU's success is that they stopped trying to have North Dakota kids on the team. They get their linemen from Minnesota/Wisconsin/ etc and most of their skill players from Florida etc. Carson Wentz is an exception but he's a souless ginger and like Beetlejuice should not be named. Trey Lance is from greater Minneapolis which has a pop of 3.5 million or roughly twice the number of Keno machines in Billings.

There is a reason that the Montana/North Dakota high school game got cancelled, cuz North Dakota football is garbage and so how could they sell a game to sponsors that might as well have been between the US Air Force and Saddam's Republican Guard.

I know your obsession with north dakota is strong with this one, but if you are going to try and be a troll atleast be accurate.

Last year 3 out of the starting 5 offensive lineman were from north dakota...Cordell volson from Balfour nd, who was a 4th round pick of the Cincinnati bengals in this last year's NFL draft, along with Jake kubas from Dickinson nd, and Cody mauch from Hankinson nd, mauch is coming off a junior season where he was all conference and projected pick in the next NFL draft...

Hankinson is listed as a city on Wikipedia despite having a population of 921, does North Dakota use population or weight of population to determine city status?

 

[Cowboys84]

I know your obsession with north dakota is strong with this one, but if you are going to try and be a troll atleast be accurate.

Last year 3 out of the starting 5 offensive lineman were from north dakota...Cordell volson from Balfour nd, who was a 4th round pick of the Cincinnati bengals in this last year's NFL draft, along with Jake kubas from Dickinson nd, and Cody mauch from Hankinson nd, mauch is coming off a junior season where he was all conference and projected pick in the next NFL draft...

Hankinson is listed as a city on Wikipedia despite having a population of 921, does North Dakota use population or weight of population to determine city status?

That's it that's all you got... you got the trey lance reference wrong, your point about ndsu not having or recruiting any north dakotans on the o-line....weak troll job.

Btw you grew up on cheese curds, French fries drenched in gravy, of all people you should be the last person making fun of other people's dietary habits...

Now go chase a moose.

 

[EverettGriz]

No surprise I'm a not move up guy. One thing to think about is that a move up is most likely the end of a strong Montana presence on the Grizzly team. It's just numerical reality; one million Montana's (it should be going up but I feel like some of those Butte-Irish-Catholics have been sneaking the occasional condom into the marital bedroom) vs 47.8 Million for just California/Oregon/Washington means there won't be many spots left for the walk-on from Savage.

A big part of NDSU's success is that they stopped trying to have North Dakota kids on the team. They get their linemen from Minnesota/Wisconsin/ etc and most of their skill players from Florida etc. Carson Wentz is an exception but he's a souless ginger and like Beetlejuice should not be named. Trey Lance is from greater Minneapolis which has a pop of 3.5 million or roughly twice the number of Keno machines in Billings.

There is a reason that the Montana/North Dakota high school game got cancelled, cuz North Dakota football is garbage and so how could they sell a game to sponsors that might as well have been between the US Air Force and Saddam's Republican Guard.

I know your obsession with north dakota is strong with this one, but if you are going to try and be a troll atleast be accurate.

Last year 3 out of the starting 5 offensive lineman were from north dakota...Cordell volson from Balfour nd, who was a 4th round pick of the Cincinnati bengals in this last year's NFL draft, along with Jake kubas from Dickinson nd, and Cody mauch from Hankinson nd, mauch is coming off a junior season where he was all conference and projected pick in the next NFL draft...

Of course the OLine is from nortdukoda donchaknow. Coach Ertz spends every evening from 4:30 to 6:00 at the Golden Corral, recruitin each who return to the food line 7 times without so much as anything green on the plate

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Hankinson is listed as a city on Wikipedia despite having a population of 921, does North Dakota use population or weight of population to determine city status?

That's it that's all you got... you got the trey lance reference wrong, your point about ndsu not having or recruiting any north dakotans on the o-line....weak troll job.

Btw you grew up on cheese curds, French fries drenched in gravy, of all people you should be the last person making fun of other people's dietary habits...

Now go chase a moose.

If we could give NoDak back to Iceland in favor of grandfathering in Saskatchewan, we would’ve done so by now. But, here we are, with a lazier and more rotund version of what could’ve been.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I know your obsession with north dakota is strong with this one, but if you are going to try and be a troll atleast be accurate.

Last year 3 out of the starting 5 offensive lineman were from north dakota...Cordell volson from Balfour nd, who was a 4th round pick of the Cincinnati bengals in this last year's NFL draft, along with Jake kubas from Dickinson nd, and Cody mauch from Hankinson nd, mauch is coming off a junior season where he was all conference and projected pick in the next NFL draft...

Of course the OLine is from nortdukoda donchaknow. Coach Ertz spends every evening from 4:30 to 6:00 at the Golden Corral, recruitin each who return to the food line 7 times without so much as anything green on the plate

I often forget their coach is named Ertz. It sounds like a venereal disease or an arthritic condition that affects swollen ankles. “Chick was a NoDak 9, but she gave me The Ertz” or “Had that third country fried steak and I think it made my Ertz flare.”

 

[SaskGriz]

Hankinson is listed as a city on Wikipedia despite having a population of 921, does North Dakota use population or weight of population to determine city status?

That's it that's all you got... you got the trey lance reference wrong, your point about ndsu not having or recruiting any north dakotans on the o-line....weak troll job.

Btw you grew up on cheese curds, French fries drenched in gravy, of all people you should be the last person making fun of other people's dietary habits...

Now go chase a moose.

Did you know his Dad played for the Roughriders for a season? A couple of buddies played with him, said he was decent. Had a good year but didn't stick and ended up in the European League or whatever they called that thing. That dish you are thinking of is Poutine, they never had it out here when I was a kid. It's French Canadien, and strangely the first place to sell it out here was Burger King. Now we've got entire shops dedicated to it and it's the first place that both of my kids Japanese exchange students wanted to eat.
On another note, I don't get down to North Dakota much anymore, no reason to drive through it. Peter Griffin sums it up nicely on Family Guy. Does the mall in Fargo look like an open call for the Macy's Parade? Absolutely. Was the annual North Dakota/Montana hs all-star game cancelled? Yes. Have I ever read anything you've posted on Bison.com or whatever dial up they have in Mandan? NO Are you reading this right now? ........

 

[oldrunner]

You just need to ask Idaho how trying to be a FBS team in a remote, small maket worked out. They went from being a highly regarded FCS program to being a bankrupt laughing stock of a FBS program. I think UM could be the next Wyoming of FBS if you wanted to, but why? Right now, UM is a big fish in a small pond with plenty to eat. Swim out to the ocean and you could either grow or get eaten by the sharks. Yes, there are small market big programs that are quite successful. However, they usually either have a long tradition at that level or some other broader appeal to bring in a wider market.

Moves like this should always be considered, but there are a lot of variables to think about. :thumb:

Well, if something bad might happen, it's better to just not try. It's like that age old saying: "A ship is safe in harbor, end of quote."
Alexa, play American Badass by Kid Rock.

Didn't say that at all, just that you need to consider all before jumping into anything like that.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Well, if something bad might happen, it's better to just not try. It's like that age old saying: "A ship is safe in harbor, end of quote."
Alexa, play American Badass by Kid Rock.

Didn't say that at all, just that you need to consider all before jumping into anything like that.

Sorry, I agree. Potential downsides as well as upsides. My point was that fear of catastrophe would ensure that nothing ever gets done.

 

[Spanky2]

Didn't say that at all, just that you need to consider all before jumping into anything like that.

Sorry, I agree. Potential downsides as well as upsides. My point was that fear of catastrophe would ensure that nothing ever gets done.

Which has been the situation with the UM administration, in my view.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

A comparison to Drew Timm's casino endorsement activities in Spokane clearly demonstrates that NIL deals can vary significantly depending on the size of the market, the popularity of the sport, and the prominence of the athlete. Large markets or markets with strong local college team audiences may offer athletes more lucrative or numerous NIL opportunities.

So, we’re just allowing bots/A.I.? Cool. Could be an improvement.

 

[MikeyGriz]

A comparison to Drew Timm's casino endorsement activities in Spokane clearly demonstrates that NIL deals can vary significantly depending on the size of the market, the popularity of the sport, and the prominence of the athlete. Large markets or markets with strong local college team audiences may offer athletes more lucrative or numerous NIL opportunities.

Great insight! We probably wouldn't have figured that out without this revelation.

 

[EverettGriz]

So, we’re just allowing bots/A.I.? Cool. Could be an improvement.

Reluctantly, I have to admit the bots on here are rather entertaining. They're like that noco bears guy used to be: they type words, and even in some manner which seemingly makes some sense, and yet somehow remain completely senseless at the same time.


I wonder if one will ever ask if I want to wrastle nekkid.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Reluctantly, I have to admit the bots on here are rather entertaining. They're like that noco bears guy used to be: they type words, and even in some manner which seemingly makes some sense, and yet somehow remain completely senseless at the same time.


I wonder if one will ever ask if I want to wrastle nekkid.

I think you have to bite the bullet and do the nekkid rasslin’ thing for the good of the board. Check out the train museum afterward and report back.

 

[Mousegriz]

Well, if something bad might happen, it's better to just not try. It's like that age old saying: "A ship is safe in harbor, end of quote."
Alexa, play American Badass by Kid Rock.

Not in Baltimore.